Bill_de Loc: US

From your title, "...concern over their rumored demise"

As is obvious folks are responding to what you wrote. It is also obvious that you are the only one concerned about the death of the low end DSLR.

Now don't try to twist it or change the subject. You started another dead end thread that you will now take down any road to keep alive.


Ta Ta!!

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RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

Any camera that has "auto" can be beginers camera.
Here is an example and it doesn't even have a built in flash.

Canon 5D

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BebuLamar

Not really need to have auto. I would consider a camera classified as beginner only because of price. There is really no beginner or professional camera. Depending on the situations any camera can be suitable. The reason I consider low price camera for beginner because many people taking up photography and not pursuit it long term so an expensive camera would be wasted. Otherwise, one should start with a camera that one would be happy to use for a long time. I didn't start with a low end camera in fact I started with the most expensive Nikon 35mm at the time.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Not ME, Richard … some of my flash heads date back to 1970 …

But, to some extent - at least, as far as DSLRs - I am a beginner … which is why I AM concerned about where beginner cameras (DSLRs, anyway) are going …

I don't believe - all beginners - will naturally trend towards MILCs … they WILL want DSLRs … and if they are all taken off the market … all they can do is turn to the used and refurbished market …

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

My first camera was a Brownie 127. That was when I was 10. Later, I got a Polaroid Land Model 150. Those were both presents. The first one I bought for myself - was a Paulette - a rangefinder camera, available in the UK. The next one I bought, in London - was a Russian Zenit E - my first SLR. Then, once I returned here to the US - I bought a Mamiya/Sekor - my second SLR - but I swapped it for a Nikkormat, a short time later. Then, I bought a Nikon F, and an F2 … in short order … this was all by 1972.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Bill - you really need to take your Meds regularly - you know?

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

You have been shooting digital since around 2010 so that should mean you should have enough experience not to be a beginner.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Bebu - I mentioned the a58 SLT - only - because it is/was - a Beginner Camera, but, it's no longer marketed by Sony (which is a bit of a shame, as it's really quite a good camera - it even has HDR AND 4x DZ!!!) but I also have two others - the a77, and a77 II - which are both semi-pro models - the latter, being current.

Since this thread is about beginner DSLRs, I thought it appropriate to mention the a58. I also have two other beginner DSLRs - the Nikon D3200, and the Canon EOS Rebel T3 - this last - being my first DSLR. If Canikon should decide to let go all of the beginner DSLR lines - I AM concerned about where the beginners will go - if they should decide they want DSLRs, as opposed to MILCs. The a58 is now discontinued. The a68 which - essentially - replaces it - is only a beginner camera, with respect to price. It is a much more advanced model than the a58. The Pentax K-70, likewise - is a much more advanced model than the K-S1 and K-S2 models - IT replaced. The Canon EOS Rebel T7 and Rebel SL3 have been crippled - leading to the assumption they ARE intended - ONLY for Beginners. So - where ON EARTH - is all this going, Bebu?

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Yes, indeed, Richard - my first Digital Camera - was the Fuji Finepix HS-10 I bought myself for my birthday in 2010. A year later, I bought my first DSLR - also, for my Birthday - in August 2011. So, in that respect - I am NO LONGER a beginner, even though I bought two other beginner cameras after that - the D3200 - in 2012 … and the a58 - in 2014 - again - a B-Day present to myself. Everyone has to start somewhere - eh?

All the others - I consider either Semi-Pro Designs (a77, a77 II; D7000, D7100; EOS 60D) or advanced entry-level - call them intermediate, if you will (D5300, D5500; K-50; Rebel T4i) … but, you know, Richard - I am STILL a beginner in respect to Digital Photography, as your comments on my pics - have shown …

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Oooh, just ONE HAND, eh, Richard? … That's very brave of your missus - especially with such a heavy DSLR!

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

The transistion to digital, from film, is not hard (although learning to do good post processing took me a while).
As far as image capture goes it is a lot easier with tools like histograms, blinkies, white balance adjustment and ISO control it is a lot easier.
So there is no reason to shoot at insanely high ISO values (when they are not needed) or capture images with blown highlights.
All this is basic photography and doesn't reflect years of photography experience.

Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA

The "retired" dslr cameras will be on ebay for decades to come and eventually will sell for just a few hundred dollars. But most people won't want them. Bridge cameras are cheap and light weight and getting better all the time. My go to camera is now my Lumix FZ 80 bridge camera with the 20mm - 1200mm lens, with 4K video, continuous autofocus and the ability to use all manual settings for still pics and video. The dslr's and lenses I picked up over the last few years are sitting on the shelf most of the time. Is the quality for stills as good as my D200 or D7000? No, but on facebook I'm only competing with cellphones. And for video, the 4K Lumix beats the D7000.

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

Maybe they will become like TLR and other film cameras, only for the enthusiasts. Not to mention all the other obsolete technology.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Bob - one of my ELEVEN Bridge Cameras - is the Panasonic Lumix FZ-70 - the predecessor to yours, and - yes, I agree with you - with such a phenomenal zoom range - why, indeed - do you need anything else? However, just like just about every other bridge camera out there, it uses a 1/2.3" sensor - which is miniscule - compared to the sensor in ANY FF DSLR, and just a pittance, even - compared to the one in the D7000!!! … Therefore - really large blow-ups are out of the question! … No, I know - one doesn't go out shooting, intending to make 30x40s all the time, but when you see an image you took - which you would LIKE to use to plaster a wall in your home - you can go about the process, with something with a bigger sensor - secure in your knowledge - you can acquire a sensible-sized print from it ….

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Richard - when one learns it's alright to let the camera make all the shooting decisions for you - you tend to get lulled into a false sense of security - and let the camera take over. You have proven the Program Auto I've relied on, for such a long time, now - is not always so perfect. However, that pic looked pretty damned good to me. In fact - I considered it one of my better pieces, and had planned on putting up three others, in the same vein (you saw the Pic Data, anyway) but after your comments, I chose not to.