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Jul 8, 2019 14:31:15   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
... in a shrinking market.

https://nikonrumors.com/2019/07/08/digital-camera-market-down-22-for-2018-the-latest-global-market-share-canon-40-5-nikon-19-1-sony-17-7.aspx

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Jul 8, 2019 14:46:24   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 


Guess I'll finally sell all my Nikon gear, at a big loss, and switch to Canon. NOT!

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Jul 8, 2019 18:59:09   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 

Yup. and the sun still rises in the east.
A shrinking market doesn't play favorites, all the players are still at the table and in their usual seats. But, the pot is smaller

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Jul 8, 2019 21:49:44   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Does this mean my Canon gear is still better than my Nikon gear or my Nikon gear is still just as good as my Canon gear?

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Jul 8, 2019 21:59:06   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Does this mean my Canon gear is still better than my Nikon gear or my Nikon gear is still just as good as my Canon gear?


Canon gear, being so popular, must be for the common folk.
Discriminating photographers shoot with Nikon.
Wannabes ... well, what can you say?





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Jul 9, 2019 07:22:42   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
What surprises me about those reports is how insignificant is Olympus rated. Panasonic is not even mentioned. Sony success is no surprise.
Canon has been for some time the company that sells more cameras and lenses. I do not hear much about their mirrorless cameras. Like Nikon they got pretty late into the mirrorless arena and I do not know about Canon but Nikon mirrorless prices are pretty high.
Olympus has done very well and their OM-1 MK II has sold very well. I know little about their new camera. They are introducing this year new models and I believe the Pen series will be discontinued.
It is significant to me how the dSLR market is shrinking.

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Jul 9, 2019 08:10:12   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Bill_de wrote:
Canon gear, being so popular, must be for the common folk.
Discriminating photographers shoot with Nikon.
Wannabes ... well, what can you say?





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So what you are saying is I'm a tasteful regular person. Not sure what you mean about the wannabes. Are they the folks who shoot Pentax?

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Jul 9, 2019 08:44:07   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
Maybe now I will sleep better at night. This matters little to me as long as I am happy using what I have. But for those who do really care, well, there you have it.

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Jul 9, 2019 09:12:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 


Yawn. Wake me up when they do something about it, or when there’s a merger or dropout.

So status seekers are buying smartphones instead of dedicated cameras. Photographer sortawannabes are scarce these days. That’ll leave a core group of serious users similar to what we had 50 years ago.

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Jul 9, 2019 10:02:04   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
I would like to historical sales charts covering the period from the introduction of the 35mm SLR to the introduction of the DSLR. I’m betting they would show similar trends as the SLR gained acceptance and then leveled off and declined as the market saturated and matured. I’m sure the time line would be longer as the pace of technological change wasn’t as rapid. So no need to panic - we’ve been there before and we’ve adapted.

Stan

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Jul 9, 2019 10:05:21   #
AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
I have had Nikon film and digital but I am a Canon guy going way back. Not all things are shrinking.



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Jul 9, 2019 10:09:38   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
StanMac wrote:
I would like to historical sales charts covering the period from the introduction of the 35mm SLR to the introduction of the DSLR. I’m betting they would show similar trends as the SLR gained acceptance and then leveled off and declined as the market saturated and matured. I’m sure the time line would be longer as the pace of technological change wasn’t as rapid. So no need to panic - we’ve been there before and we’ve adapted.

Stan


I think you're close to the truth! The industry needed a shot in the arm and digital did just that. Then, like now, the manufacturers were adding bells and whistles in an attempt to boost sales but a point was reached where the end users weren't much interested.

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Jul 9, 2019 10:50:21   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Does this mean my Canon gear is still better than my Nikon gear or my Nikon gear is still just as good as my Canon gear?


It means Nikon gear is still the very best but not enough people know it due to Canon having better advertising.

Dennis

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Jul 9, 2019 10:50:39   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
So what you are saying is I'm a tasteful regular person. Not sure what you mean about the wannabes. Are they the folks who shoot Pentax?


No, Hasselblad's, and still buying film.

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Jul 9, 2019 10:58:16   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
StanMac wrote:
I would like to historical sales charts covering the period from the introduction of the 35mm SLR to the introduction of the DSLR. I’m betting they would show similar trends as the SLR gained acceptance and then leveled off and declined as the market saturated and matured. I’m sure the time line would be longer as the pace of technological change wasn’t as rapid. So no need to panic - we’ve been there before and we’ve adapted.

Stan




I was an industry insider from 1979 to 2012, and have been a photographer since the late 1960s, so I have watched it closely.

The industry was heavy on 35mm SLRs in the 1960s to the early 1980s.

In the late 1970s, automation began to make small snapshot cameras and mini-labs popular, and their sales gradually ate into SLR sales.

In the late 1990s, APS film cameras and digital cameras began eating into SLR sales. Then the industry got the paradigm shifting WHACK from the triple whammy: Internet, social media, and smartphones. APS died almost before it really got started. Digital point-and-shoot cameras had about a seven year run. dSLR sales had a similar run up to peak, and have been falling or sluggish ever since.

The three major disruptive technologies I mentioned effectively drew away most of the casual market for cameras and photo prints. The 50+ year-old Photo Marketing Association International, which regularly drew over 40,000 people to annual conventions before 2010, evaporated after merging with CES, the commercial electronics show. Now Photokina is a fraction of the size it once was.

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