Keystone effect
Jul 7, 2019 17:40:45 #
no12mo wrote:
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They had no problem with Adobe on my PC - as long as I paid the monthly fee. But when I uninstalled it - so went MS Photo, as well … TG for Paint!!!!!
I'm not going to Apple … never did … never will … although, I did have an actual working copy of Safari - for a while!!! … Nice browser!!!!
Jul 8, 2019 07:38:38 #
Chris T wrote:
Nice, isn't it? ... Needs some work, though, Gene ...
You don't like the label I assigned, huh, Gene?
I always thought they were pretty much the same thing ...
I know - now you're going to tell me something like the 4x5 Graflex (a carry-able 4x5) was a Field Camera ... right?
You don't like the label I assigned, huh, Gene?
I always thought they were pretty much the same thing ...
I know - now you're going to tell me something like the 4x5 Graflex (a carry-able 4x5) was a Field Camera ... right?
No. I will tell you that a view camera is usually used to describe both. But a field camera is one that folds up into a small package. Like a Horseman 985, Linhof Technika, Speed Graphic, Toyo Field, etc. Typically a monorail-based view camera has the same range of movements on the rear standard as the front. The field camera does not. Some have none, many with rear movements have limited range. But I am sure you already know that which would make your label clearly a typo.
Jul 8, 2019 07:40:56 #
billnikon wrote:
My bad, you are correct. But it does a good quick job at perspective control.
Yes it does. But it does require that you produce a jpeg out of the camera.
Jul 8, 2019 07:47:24 #
Kaib795 wrote:
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FWIW, PC-E and TS lenses are not big and heavy - (22 to 25 oz), and NIkkors to cost between $2K- $2.2K, with the exception of the 19mm PC-E ($3.4K) and the Canon between $1.4K and $2.2K.
They are pretty much right smack in the middle of the pricing range for professional grade prime lenses.
Jul 8, 2019 08:13:10 #
Gene51 wrote:
No. I will tell you that a view camera is usually used to describe both.
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Jul 8, 2019 08:22:18 #
Retina
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Howard5252 wrote:
Just another interesting tid-bit. The mind pays a role in keystoning. It will not accept the sides of buildings coming together (vertical) but will accept railroad tracks coming together (horizontal). I leave it to others to explain why.
Just a guess, but we are more accustomed to seeing vanishing points horizontally than vertically, especially with railroad tracks which tend to be quite long and already narrower than buildings are wide.
Jul 8, 2019 08:27:30 #
Retina wrote:
Just a guess, but we are more accustomed to seeing vanishing points horizontally than vertically, especially with railroad tracks which tend to be quite long and already narrower than buildings are wide.
Could be, or the subject. We know the rails continue until (well, past) the vanishing point, and a building does not.
Jul 8, 2019 12:20:17 #
Gene51 wrote:
No. I will tell you that a view camera is usually used to describe both. But a field camera is one that folds up into a small package. Like a Horseman 985, Linhof Technika, Speed Graphic, Toyo Field, etc. Typically a monorail-based view camera has the same range of movements on the rear standard as the front. The field camera does not. Some have none, many with rear movements have limited range. But I am sure you already know that which would make your label clearly a typo.
Okay, Gene - call it a typo, if you wish …
But, as you can see from my first response to yours on this, in which I mentioned a carry-able 4x5, like a Graflex … I DID know the difference ….
Jul 8, 2019 14:49:59 #
Chris T wrote:
Okay, Gene - call it a typo, if you wish …
But, as you can see from my first response to yours on this, in which I mentioned a carry-able 4x5, like a Graflex … I DID know the difference ….
But, as you can see from my first response to yours on this, in which I mentioned a carry-able 4x5, like a Graflex … I DID know the difference ….
Hey - you wrote with an = sign. And they are not exactly = as you know. You don't want people to think they are, do you? If you know that there is a difference, then why did you make them the same? Just sayin'
Jul 8, 2019 14:58:25 #
Gene51 wrote:
Hey - you wrote with an = sign. And they are not exactly = as you know. You don't want people to think they are, do you? If you know that there is a difference, then why did you make them the same? Just sayin'
Think I wrote in the label - aka - a Field Camera …
Perhaps, in my mind - at the time - they were. They have similarities, but you're right - NOT the same.
Jul 8, 2019 15:01:30 #
Gene51 wrote:
Hey - you wrote with an = sign. And they are not exactly = as you know. You don't want people to think they are, do you? If you know that there is a difference, then why did you make them the same? Just sayin'
Let me follow that comment with this, though, Gene …
As you can see - the B&J I have - is a flat-bed … which means it can be folded up and carried, easily.
As such - this B&J 5x7 - may easily be used, on a flat surface, OR held - without using a tripod, at all!
The Calumet 4x5 I also have - is a monorail camera - which I wouldn't DREAM of using - OFF a tripod!!!!
Jul 9, 2019 01:39:54 #
Ringer wrote:
Sorry to show my ignorance -- but -- what is a view camera? It was discussed in relation to tilting it to avoid the keystoning problem up front. From the context, I guess it is something not commonly used now, but I'm curious nevertheless -- Can I still my Panasonic point-and-shoot and get some of the same effect? Never thought of that, but it might help. Of course, tilting it up to shoot a tall building is what causes this problem in the first place.
Ringer, this is a 4x5 View Camera, which travels back and forth on a monorail, which requires tripod use.
The other one I put up, is of a 5x7 View Camera, which moves back and forth on a flatbed. This kind - may be used on a flat surface, or it may be handheld (if you're brave) thus - it doesn't NEED a tripod - which is why I referred to it as - aka - a Field Camera - as it's completely transportable, and can be folded up …
Calumet 4x5 View Camera - on tripod
Jul 16, 2019 17:52:08 #
Ringer wrote:
Sorry to show my ignorance -- but -- what is a view camera? It was discussed in relation to tilting it to avoid the keystoning problem up front. From the context, I guess it is something not commonly used now, but I'm curious nevertheless -- Can I still my Panasonic point-and-shoot and get some of the same effect? Never thought of that, but it might help. Of course, tilting it up to shoot a tall building is what causes this problem in the first place.
Here's another shot of my 4x5 View Camera, Ringer - in this one, you can see the Ground Glass back.
When you compose on it - everything is upside down! Also, you have to have a black cloth over your head and over the back of the camera, in order to see anything - the cloth - cuts out extraneous light, so you can.
Jul 16, 2019 18:10:50 #
Ringer wrote:
Sorry to show my ignorance -- but -- what is a view camera? It was discussed in relation to tilting it to avoid the keystoning problem up front. From the context, I guess it is something not commonly used now, but I'm curious nevertheless -- Can I still my Panasonic point-and-shoot and get some of the same effect? Never thought of that, but it might help. Of course, tilting it up to shoot a tall building is what causes this problem in the first place.
Ringer - here's another shot of my 4x5 View Camera … in this one, you can see the lens configuration -
Calumet 4x5 View Camera - front
Jul 16, 2019 19:06:45 #
Ringer wrote:
Sorry to show my ignorance -- but -- what is a view camera? It was discussed in relation to tilting it to avoid the keystoning problem up front. From the context, I guess it is something not commonly used now, but I'm curious nevertheless -- Can I still my Panasonic point-and-shoot and get some of the same effect? Never thought of that, but it might help. Of course, tilting it up to shoot a tall building is what causes this problem in the first place.
Here's another shot of my 4x5 View Camera, Ringer - in this one, you can see the Ground Glass back.
When you compose on it - everything is upside down! Also, you have to have a black cloth over your head and over the back of the camera, in order to see anything - the cloth - cuts out extraneous light, so you can.
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Calumet 4x5 View Camera - Rear
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