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Jul 1, 2019 08:40:23   #
Owen Dell
 
I've been using On1 Photo Raw for several years now. Great software that does it all, and amazing support and community resources. That's pretty much all I use.

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Jul 1, 2019 08:41:38   #
polyman
 
Try "Gimp" its free and loaded with features.

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Jul 1, 2019 08:42:03   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Ditto.
khorinek wrote:
I don't agree that "hobbyist" photographers "accept" lower quality images. I know of a lot of hobbyist photographers that produce excellent images. The only difference between a professional photographer and a hobbyist is the amount of pressure the professional is under to get that "shot" and the size of the paycheck at the end of the day. Don't sell hobbyist photographers short.

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Jul 1, 2019 08:43:06   #
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shotgunner wrote:
In order to avoid paying an eternal subscription fee to Adobe, I'm researching alternatives to Photoshop. I'm hearing good things about Corel Paintshop Pro and Affinity Photo, but I have not used either one. If you have experience with either of these programs , or other Photoshop alternatives, I'm eager to hear what you have to say. FYI, my interest in photography is strictly as a hobby.

The GIMP. Nothing else comes close. And entirely free.

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Jul 1, 2019 08:44:35   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Collhar wrote:
Income and Photographers. Would that be an example of an Oxymoron??


Not for those who use Lightroom / Photoshop!

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Jul 1, 2019 08:55:57   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
There are choices, obviously. I use Affinity Photo and I am very pleased with it.

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Jul 1, 2019 08:59:52   #
Chrisfarr
 
I'm really impressed with Luminar 3. It took me a while to learn but their support was first rate and the software does far more than I am ever likely to use. It's also very easy to make custom presets.

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Jul 1, 2019 09:25:30   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I use Photoshop Elements, about $80. Easy to learn and use.

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Jul 1, 2019 09:29:42   #
Vlemasters
 
Affinity is my choicr

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Jul 1, 2019 09:36:33   #
martyr2013 Loc: Massachusetts
 
shotgunner wrote:
In order to avoid paying an eternal subscription fee to Adobe, I'm researching alternatives to Photoshop. I'm hearing good things about Corel Paintshop Pro and Affinity Photo, but I have not used either one. If you have experience with either of these programs , or other Photoshop alternatives, I'm eager to hear what you have to say. FYI, my interest in photography is strictly as a hobby.


I have been using Paint Shop Pro for many years and found it can do everything I need. I belong to a camera club and some of my work as been hung in the community center gallery. You buy it once and you don't have to upgrade if don't want to. I upgrade about every other year for a small charge.

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Jul 1, 2019 09:39:49   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
johnst1001a wrote:
most of these cost money, and suck you in with upgrades. i had one, wont say which paid $99 then the had an upgrade for $69, and the a third, o course they promise new features. well I have photoshop, pay the $9.99 as i don't need their cloud storage. I don't have to upgrade, upgrades come occasionally and automatically. I get Lightroom as well, but rarely use it.
I get way more enjoyment out of Photoshop than Netflix which I dropped. The next thing I will drop is MS Office 360, I will get one of the free Office programs out there. i am no longer connected to any work network, which banned open source products. Or then theres amazon music which I never use, or spotify which I dumped a while ago. I for one am ver happy with photoshop and gladly pay $10/month
most of these cost money, and suck you in with upg... (show quote)


$10 a month is more than annual optional up grades on PSP, depending on when you get the upgrade at least 2x more. And I find PSP more intuitive, at least for me.

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Jul 1, 2019 09:46:41   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Gene51 wrote:
If you want the most comprehensive photo editing solution - there is only one real choice -

However, you can do quite well with On1, Capture One and DXO PhotoLab/NIk collection. Everything else pales in comparision. But you do sound convinced that paying for software is a terrible idea - so I hope you find happiness. If by stating that you are a hobbyist you are ok with accepting lower quality images, hassles with incompatible software, unsupported cameras, unstable software etc for the sake of saving a few drachmas, then I understand . . .
If you want the most comprehensive photo editing s... (show quote)


Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In addition, between the two, there is almost nothing you can't do so you never bounded by you tool.

But isn't it sheckles! :)

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Jul 1, 2019 09:53:14   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
G Brown wrote:
Come on Gene....The world moves on and there are a number of post processing options to choose from.
Being an amateur does not mean 'accepting' lower quality images at all. Amateurs have pushed the accepted boundaries in many if not all fields including Photography. After all, those who profess to be professionals are merely 'doing a job of work' at an acceptable (or not) level for the masses. Amateurs can and do work to their own high standards.

Digital Photography has ceased to be 'just' about Professionals earning a living and the rich affording the tools to mimic their printed images in glossy magazines. The Digital Photography market has responded by broadening the software available. That is why Adobe's ridiculously traditional high price has plummeted to a seemingly affordable subscription. However, it is no longer a 'benchmark' for many people. Where companies like Topaz 'fed' from one fountain - they now support others too.

Having many choices drives technology. The dinosaurs are struggling to keep up!

Explore the choices....you may be surprised.
Come on Gene....The world moves on and there are a... (show quote)

Gene, like me, is a raw shooter. I think perhaps when he said, "Everything else pales in comparison." he should have qualified that statement by adding "for raw shooters". As he suggested LR and PS are the most comprehensive choices. That's a fact, not a personal opinion. However they are not the best choices for everyone and there are lots of alternatives today. For raw shooters the best alternatives to LR/PS are, as Gene stated, Capture One, DXO PhotoLab, and ON1. Together with LR and ACR they will provide the discerning photographer with the best raw conversions, as well as a significant number of raw editing features that other software lacks. Programs like Affinity, Luminar, PaintShop Pro, etc. are very fine programs as well, but more geared to those who do not shoot raw. I personally no longer use Adobe products, much preferring DXO PhotoLab Elite, DXO FilmPack, DXO ViewPoint, and the DXO Nik Collection.

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Jul 1, 2019 10:19:26   #
dandev Loc: Enumclaw, WA
 
Affinity - and Capture One for my Raw editor.

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Jul 1, 2019 10:27:41   #
gilpog
 
I too use Affinity and like it a lot. Strongly recommend it.

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