kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA

If was I to "move up", I should think it would be Large Format?
35mm is 35mm, mirrored or mirrowless. Same sensor.

aellman Loc: Boston MA

Upgrading is one of the most frequently discussed topics here, and most of the OPs want members to tell them it's a good idea, when it's so obviously unnecessary and a waste of money. They still want to upgrade even when they say, "I'm on a limited budget, and my camera does everything I need, but..."

Manufacturers want EVERYONE to upgrade (preferably every time they introduce a new model). It's why they spend millions on advertising and marketing to tell you even if you don't need to upgrade you REALLY REALLY want to, because the Nikon D500,000 has a few more buttons, more crap in the menu which no one can figure out, and a megapixel count in the high 3 figures. This upgrade madness is consumerism run amok. If your camera does everything you need (especially if you don't have a lot of disposable income), forget it and enjoy what you have.

Now we can all prepare ourselves for a days-long thread of pointless arguments by people who advocate upgrading regardless of whether it's necessary or prudent for the OP's situation. Expect posts by people who disagree with me and with each other. Here we go again! >Alan

pauldh Loc: Melbourne, Australia

I own a 5D Mk IV too and several L series lens. My local photography retailer discouraged me from moving to the "R". He was of the opinion that the Mk IV was a better camera. Perhaps the best reason is the new lens system. Reviews are very positive about these new lens and seem to outperform the EF lens and is perhaps a more compelling reason to move once the "Pro" version comes out in the next couple of years. In the meantime, I bought a M50 so I could get used to a Mirrorless camera and invested in both an EF to M adapter and also a Focal Reducer/Speed Booster so I could get an almost FF Field of View with my EF lens on the M50 with the bonus one stop of EV. My advice is hold off and then dive in replacing your key EF lens once you have evaluated the "Pro" R Body before you replace your 5D Mk IV. By the way I am not a Pro photographer just an enthusiast so its not so critical that I change.

Bill P

I remember in the film days when each new iteration of a camera was groundbreaking, a major change. With digital, each new cameras has changes that are only incremental. That's pushing consumerism too far for me.

martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida

If you can't come up with your own argument by now, then I wouldn't spend a dime more on photography......

JD750 Loc: SoCal

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SLR fanatics should NEVER, EVER:
Buy
or Think About
or Talk About
or Use
Live View cameras. It makes them unhappy
... unless acoarst they thrive on unhappiness.

ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio

Only if your friend pays for the gear. If you are happy with your current setup why change?

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Don’t you mean DSLR fanatics?

Nothing for nothing but I still shoot with my SLR, I also shoot with my DSLR and also my “live view” camera (mirrorless). Whatever suits the mood. (Usually my OM-D is the camera that is in my hand these days).

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No I mean SLRs, most of which today are digital.

There are certain silly jargon terms I avoid, such
as "mirrorless" and "SLR" with a "D" attached.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

But that is what they are they are Digital SLRs.

Now we are seeing the evolution of true digital cameras free from the shackles of the SLR format.

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Have you noticed [as I have] a few folks using the
term DSLR to mean ANY type of interchangeable
lens digital camera ? Example: "I'm ready to move
up to a DSLR, and I notice the mirrorless versions
tend to cost more. Why is that ?"

It's like "URL" or "CRT" [etc, etc]. Peeps speak in
acronyms, but with no clue what they are really
referring to, so things get kinda fuzzy :-)

While it's pointless to campaign against such stuff,
I still can't bring myself to help perpetuate it. So,
enjoy your DSLRs and your ASLRs !



[analog slr]

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Language is fluid and some people use terms differently. That does not make it right or contribute to general understanding. The definition of a DSLR camera is "Digital Single Lens Reflex" camera. It is not a rangefinder. It is not a point and shoot. It is not a mirrorless camera. It is not a view-camera. It is a type of SLR. The term SLR could mean either film or a digital sensor but generally SLR is used to denote a camera that utilizes film as the recording medium.

DSLR adjective
denoting or relating to a camera that combines the optics and mechanisms of a single-lens reflex camera with a digital imaging sensor, rather than photographic film.
Source: Google search "Define DSLR"

What is an ASLR? (Address space layout randomization ?)

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Lousy research there TX, cuz you went with
"Define DSLR" but neglected the control side.
You did also not include "Define SLR". So, I
did it for you:

"What is SLR? Webopedia Definition
https://www.webopedia.com/TERM/S/SLR.html
Short for single lens reflex, is a term associated
with cameras and digital cameras. SLR cameras
use a mirror between the lens and the film, or
image sensor, to provide a focus screen. ...... "

I hope you take all this as amusement and not
as heated argument.

"How many angels can dance on a photo site/
pixel ?".

Contrary to geekish blather, the size of the pixel
is irrelevant here. After all, there's also no ISO
standard for the size of a pinhead ;-)

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Well TX apparently you did not bother to read the first paragraph of my reply. I will restate the last sentence here so you don't have to bother to reread it.

"The term SLR could mean either film or a digital sensor but generally SLR is used to denote a camera that utilizes film as the recording medium."

But I don't really care how you use the terms. Feel free to be creative and use words and phrases however you like.