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Jun 26, 2019 05:43:42   #
BebuLamar
 
DavidPhares wrote:
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move up” to the new full frame mirrorless camera.

I have been advised by several of those in the know that the sensor on the new mirrorless is no better than the Mk IV. Keep in mind I have four (4) Canon EF “L” lenses to support the Mk IV.

I shoot mostly portraits in my personal studio, which is equipped with a full set of ceiling mounted pull-down lights, and free standing lights.

Why should I “move up” given the significant expense?

I am open to opinions on both sides. 😄

David
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move... (show quote)


Peer Pressure!

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Jun 26, 2019 05:48:28   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
TriX wrote:
I have the same body and a bunch of EF “L” lenses and see no compelling reason to move. My camera is very familiar, having owned a 7D and a 5D3, and does everything I want (it’s a better camera than I am a photographer), so not a limiting factor. The only reason I would move is for silent shooting in weddings if I were a pro, which I’m not. If I were buying new, maybe, but since, like you, I’m invested, no desire to “have the latest thing” with minimal advantage.


I couldn’t agree more.

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Jun 26, 2019 06:32:01   #
ggenova64
 
Hi Ralph
Sorry to hear about your health conditions.

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Jun 26, 2019 06:35:43   #
ggenova64
 
Hi David
I also shot with the Canon 5D Mark II and Mark IV. I made the switch to Sony Mirrorless 5N, A7 II (which I plan to convert to Infrared) and A7R III. The lens converters don't work very well. Not much lighter!

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Jun 26, 2019 06:45:56   #
Jerrin1 Loc: Wolverhampton, England
 
DavidPhares wrote:
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move up” to the new full frame mirrorless camera.

I have been advised by several of those in the know that the sensor on the new mirrorless is no better than the Mk IV. Keep in mind I have four (4) Canon EF “L” lenses to support the Mk IV.

I shoot mostly portraits in my personal studio, which is equipped with a full set of ceiling mounted pull-down lights, and free standing lights.

Why should I “move up” given the significant expense?

I am open to opinions on both sides. 😄

David
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move... (show quote)


I certainly would not move from a 5D mark IV to a Canon EOS R/RP. I was a Canon user for 23 years and could not understand why anyone chose Nikon over Canon. I then bought a Nikon D500 and realised Canon no longer produced a product which interested me. As a wildlife photographer, the EOS R/RP do not interest me in the slightest; and if I were still a Canon user I would have been disappointed. The new lenses may be brilliant, but they are also massive, heavy and few have stabilization.

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Jun 26, 2019 06:56:53   #
steve49 Loc: massachusetts
 
No reason I can see.
You have top notch pro gear... and use it as well.

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Jun 26, 2019 07:04:09   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
My 2 cents:

You should only "move up" because you want the mirrorless advantages. If you do not see any advantages don't waste money.

You should only do things because YOU want to. Not because someone says you should.


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Jun 26, 2019 07:14:05   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
JD750 wrote:
My 2 cents: You should only "move up" because you want the mirrorless advantages. If you do not see any advantages don't waste money.

You should only do things because YOU want to. Not because someone says you should.


Good answer.

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Jun 26, 2019 07:20:04   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
The EOS R comes with an EF to RF lens adapter so your EF L series lenses will work. The EOS R has a superior AF system, a touch tilt screen and a digic 8 processor. The EOS R is smaller and lighter and its EVF is way better than the OVF in the mk IV.
These are some reasons to get an EOS R, is you have two grand to spare.
I have a 5D mk IV and a whole bunch of L series lenses and although there are plenty of great features on the EOS R, it's bleeding edge technology and since it won't really take exceptionally better images than the camera it shares an image sensor with, I don't plan on acquiring a new body until at least the EOS R mk II is available. Now if you need a new body, the EOS R is less expensive than the 5D mk IV.
The EOS R comes with an EF to RF lens adapter so y... (show quote)


I'm with you on this. Waiting for the next and hopefully more function Iteration of the R. The reviews are just ok, no where close to the others. I think the first model was get their feet in the water of the mirrorless pond and get some serious feedback from the gear hounds. Hopefully the next pond will have fish, a few boats and some plants. :)

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Jun 26, 2019 07:22:08   #
ggenova64
 
Canon is developing bigger and heavier lens, when the market wants lighter!

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Jun 26, 2019 07:27:32   #
picsix
 
I too have been shooting with a Canon Mark IV. And for 20 years before that, all Canon. I have probably 5-6 beautiful EF lenses. I love to travel and my husband is my "sherpa," lugging all my heavy equipment! I love street photography and literally last week, bought a full frame mirrorless Leica. For sure it is a learning curve- for me anyway, with no auto focus. But I'm determined to figure it out!
So far, I love the feel of the smaller body- it's so much easier for me. I just finished a class where a few people had mirrorless cameras and they were great- I was definitely jealous. It is nice to see what you're shooting beforehand, and a lot of the new models have tilt screens, which is even better. But, it really depends on what you're using it for? It sounds like, for just a studio setting, what you have is great? If you want to move around a lot outside, street shooting, traveling, you may want to consider?

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Jun 26, 2019 07:28:36   #
SonyBug
 
DavidPhares wrote:
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move up” to the new full frame mirrorless camera.

I have been advised by several of those in the know that the sensor on the new mirrorless is no better than the Mk IV. Keep in mind I have four (4) Canon EF “L” lenses to support the Mk IV.

I shoot mostly portraits in my personal studio, which is equipped with a full set of ceiling mounted pull-down lights, and free standing lights.

Why should I “move up” given the significant expense?

I am open to opinions on both sides. 😄

David
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move... (show quote)


You shouldn't. Your friends are trying to use your validation for something that is in their heads. Just keep doing what makes you happy...

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Jun 26, 2019 07:29:30   #
khorinek
 
DavidPhares wrote:
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move up” to the new full frame mirrorless camera.

I have been advised by several of those in the know that the sensor on the new mirrorless is no better than the Mk IV. Keep in mind I have four (4) Canon EF “L” lenses to support the Mk IV.

I shoot mostly portraits in my personal studio, which is equipped with a full set of ceiling mounted pull-down lights, and free standing lights.

Why should I “move up” given the significant expense?

I am open to opinions on both sides. 😄

David
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move... (show quote)


I wouldn't say it is a "move up" I would say it is a move to the future. My Mark III and Mark IV sit idle most of the time since I moved to the Canon EOS RP. There are a lot of things I like with the EOS RP, such as, half the weight, Electronic Viewfinder (what you see is what you get), video is almost instant, just push the video button anytime and your taking video (with the Mark III and IV you need to switch to live view then push the video button. BTW, video on the EOS RP is as good or better than the III & IV. With no mirror movement, it is extremely quiet. I can shoot an Orchestra Concert and nobody will hear me. If you have the adapter ring you can use all the lenses you currently own. I recently purchased the RF 24-105 f/4 lens for one of my EOS RP's. This lens uses a third "ring" which I programmed to change my ISO on the fly. I can see what I'm going to get before I take the photo and if I feel the photo is going to be under or over exposed I adjust the ISO before taking the shot. This is a very nice and usable feature. I'm sure there are a lot more features with mirrorless I have forgotten to mention, but in the end, I wouldn't say moving from your Mark IV to mirrorless was a "move up" just a move to the future using the latest technology available.

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Jun 26, 2019 07:33:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DavidPhares wrote:
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move up” to the new full frame mirrorless camera.

I have been advised by several of those in the know that the sensor on the new mirrorless is no better than the Mk IV. Keep in mind I have four (4) Canon EF “L” lenses to support the Mk IV.

I shoot mostly portraits in my personal studio, which is equipped with a full set of ceiling mounted pull-down lights, and free standing lights.

Why should I “move up” given the significant expense?

I am open to opinions on both sides. 😄

David
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move... (show quote)


That's because he believes that it is the latest, greatest, and only way to go.
So you should also.

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Jun 26, 2019 07:56:17   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
DavidPhares wrote:
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move up” to the new full frame mirrorless camera.

I have been advised by several of those in the know that the sensor on the new mirrorless is no better than the Mk IV. Keep in mind I have four (4) Canon EF “L” lenses to support the Mk IV.

I shoot mostly portraits in my personal studio, which is equipped with a full set of ceiling mounted pull-down lights, and free standing lights.

Why should I “move up” given the significant expense?

I am open to opinions on both sides. 😄

David
A good friend of mine has been bugging me to “move... (show quote)


I have both the 5DIV and the EOS R, and while the sensor is essentially the same for both, the R, because it focuses on the sensor, is more accurate and consistent then the 5DIV. The R is also better in low light. The 5DIV can only focus down to f/8 which means that while my 100-400 L II with the 1.4x extender will auto focus it loses auto focus with my 2x extender. The R will auto focus at f/11 which gives me all my auto focus points with the 100-400 and 2x.
I have something like 7 L lenses and they all perform as well or better on the R then the 5DIV. With the R and adapter the overall length increases by approximately 3/4" and the weight decreases by about 4oz. Not even noticeable.
That said, in the studio environment where you state that you do most of your shooting, I don't see where investing in an R would be any distinct advantage over your current 5DIV.

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