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Jun 24, 2019 12:20:42   #
DJ Mills Loc: Idaho
 
hcmcdole wrote:
The biggest disadvantage is handing the camera to someone else to take a photo of you in a group. I gave my camera to my son-in-law last week to take a picture of my wife, our grandson (just graduated from HS), and myself and the focus was off even after I explained what he needed to do. I rarely have anyone else use my camera so I will keep it on BFF despite this hard to grasp concept.


You've got that right. It's virtually impossible to explain to anyone, but it is the best change I have made to my settings.

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Jun 24, 2019 12:35:36   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
lnicol3702 wrote:
But I normally have my thumb depressing the BBF button at the same time I push the shutter button so obviously I don't want to touch the camera if its on the tripod and I'm using the remote shutter?


If the camera is on a tripod is should be solid and you should be SQUEEZING the camera....thumb on BBF button, other fingers gripping from the front, just like if camera is hand-held. Just pushing the BBF button from the back can cause camera/tripod shifting.

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Jun 24, 2019 12:55:03   #
jpgto Loc: North East Tennessee
 
The thing I corrected by changing to BBF was the inadvertent trips of the shutter! Without BBF the shutter was required to be pushed 1/2 way down, focus and push further to actuate the shutter. I had a number of times for one reason or another I would accidentally depress the release without focusing! Losing the shot! It was strange at first but the more you use it the easier it is. Remember, BBF then shutter! Have fun, practice, practice and practice more!

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Jun 24, 2019 13:03:11   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
juan_uy wrote:
If you have BBF combined with continuous focus, you could keep the BBF pressed until you press the shutter to have continuous focus until the moment of the exposure. This should avoid the issues you mentioned

Just trying to help, obviously feel free to continue going back and forth


I have experimented with continuous focus and BBF as you mentioned but need more practice with that I guess. My success rate wasn't something to write home about . I need to review the manual :)

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Jun 24, 2019 14:19:17   #
jonfrei
 
From my perspective (I have been using BBF on my personal and work Nikon & Fuji cameras for about 10 years now):

Advantages
- INSTANT switching between static focusing and continuous focusing (release the button, focus is locked, hold the button, focus tracks).
- Makes the half-shutter press available to be exposure-lock (which is how I set mine most of the time when I am in aperture priority mode).
- Makes me intentionally grip the camera (to put my thumb over the button), lending to better stability, as well as not accidentally hitting any of the several buttons that are in the vicinity of my thumb.
- You can pre-focus a shot, then hand someone else the camera to take the shot.
- You don’t have to worry about focus shift when doing repetitive work (say, copy-stand, impression work, or a production-line photo directory) every time you press the shutter.

Disadvantages
- You can’t hand your camera to anyone to take a shot without either pre-focusing for them, or explaining BBF.
- A split-second of “why isn’t it focusing” when you use someone else’s camera.

I’m sure your camera manual will tell you how to enable BBF (though it may not call it that!), if someone from the forum hasn’t already given you the step-by-step...

I love it. My primary recreational shooting buddy hates it. Give it a try. If you like it, go with it. If not, nobody’s feelings are going to get hurt - I promise! :)

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Jun 24, 2019 14:27:33   #
jonfrei
 
pecohen wrote:
Back-Button Focus provides a convenient way to manually focus for a shot. So perhaps your question should be "why focus manually?" Auto focus in a good camera tends to be quite good much of the time, but sometimes it screws up. A clear example of this problem sometimes occurs when shooting through a window and your camera decides to focus on the window rather than on the scene behind the window. Similarly, when there are some leaves in the foreground and you are trying to shoot the bird or perhaps some children who are further away - your camera may decide to focus on one of the leaves. With manual focus you decide where the focus should be, not the software in the camera.
Back-Button Focus provides a convenient way to man... (show quote)


BBF is still auto-focus — you are just using the button to choose the focus point. Manual focus is when you are turning the focus ring on your lens - something else altogether.

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Jun 24, 2019 14:30:06   #
jonfrei
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Note: Do not hand your camera over to an amateur to take your picture. Use the self-timer or a remote shutter release.


Not always an option...

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Jun 24, 2019 14:33:14   #
jonfrei
 
lnicol3702 wrote:
So a Question.... when I have the camera on a tripod and using a remote shutter release how does the BBF work then?


You focus when you set up the shot. If you need dynamic focus each shutter trip, re-enable it on the shutter button for that session.

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Jun 24, 2019 14:35:11   #
jonfrei
 
lnicol3702 wrote:
But I normally have my thumb depressing the BBF button at the same time I push the shutter button so obviously I don't want to touch the camera if its on the tripod and I'm using the remote shutter?


That’s the beauty of BBF — once you release the button, focus is fixed. You don’t need to hold it while the shutter is being pressed {unless you want continuous focus}.

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Jun 24, 2019 15:09:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jonfrei wrote:

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Disadvantages
- You can’t hand your camera to anyone to take a shot without either pre-focusing for them, or explaining BBF.
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I use center point BBF focusing and single center-point metering.
When I hand my camera to someone else to take a picture, I set it to AUTO - It reverts back to half-press multi-point focusing and non single point metering - I don't have to explain anything, just squeeze here.
Very handy.

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Jun 24, 2019 15:34:46   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
Longshadow wrote:
I use center point BBF focusing and single center-point metering.
When I hand my camera to someone else to take a picture, I set it to AUTO - It reverts back to half-press multi-point focusing and non single point metering - I don't have to explain anything, just squeeze here.
Very handy.


What brand? I think Canon does that, but almost sure my Nikon D7200 doesn't

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Jun 24, 2019 15:37:32   #
MikeT9
 
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Jun 24, 2019 15:42:34   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
jonfrei wrote:
Not always an option...


How hard is it to switch it to "Auto" before handing it to someone else....

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Jun 24, 2019 15:48:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
juan_uy wrote:
What brand? I think Canon does that, but almost sure my Nikon D7200 doesn't

Yes, Canon.
(I lucked out as my wife would not want me to explain BBF and spot metering. )

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Jun 24, 2019 15:51:06   #
PierreD
 
SIMIBILL wrote:
I know this has been much discussed, but recently I have seen several articles on Facebook stating that Back Button Focus can make your photos sharper than auto focus.
Would some of you who use it please explain what you feel are the advantages and if any the disadvantages of Back Button Focus.

Also how to set up Back Button Focus on my Canon 80D.


I use is all the time and don't notice that it results in sharper photos... But, it dissociates focus from exposure and so tends to result in better exposed photos, IMO. This said, it takes a bit of neuronal re-wiring to get used to it and many people who don't use it obviously take great shots.

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