Personally I think its just one more example of the self-absorbed, ego-centric culture in which we live. No one else exists at any given moment but me so how could I even know there is somebody around to help me or ask to take my picture.
Interesting thing to me is that most selfies I have seen at famous places are 90% of the person and really not enough in the background to tell where they are. Its all about me, Me, ME ! This observation really took hold a couple years back as I watched tons of people take selfies at the Grand Canyon. Not a single one had any of the canyon in view besides the upper 2 corners which was mostly horizon.
Probably good for tourism though as studies have shown a ridiculously high percentage of selfie takers could not describe anything about the places behind them even a day after they were there. So sad.
AJFRED wrote:
Where is this nice safe place you live, where you would hand your goods over to a total stranger?
I never said I gave it to a stranger. I usually travel in guided tours, and often with a group of friends.
Used to be send a post card. Now take and send a selfie. No difference it says 'I was here'.
mwsilvers wrote:
Actually, I have never done that. Not once, ever! It never even occured to me.
In fact, very few of my photos have anybody in them at all unless it's a street scene where they are an integral part of the action. But other than that I consciously avoid or crop out people from my images since they are a visual distraction from what I'm trying to create. In fact, in my travels, I have often decided not to take photos in interesting and sometimes well known locations simply because there were too many people around. I'd rather take nothing then a second rate image with a tour bus of people blocking my shot.
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I'm on your page. I mainly do landscapes and close up of flowers, sea shells, and images of other natural things. I rarely do portraiture of photography of people. One exception to that is I have done a good amount of theatrical photography and photography of musicians playing and posing. Likely since my other big thing in life is listening to music and collecting recorded music.
GoofyNewfie wrote:
It's not new...just more convenient.
Love the picture. Selfies are as old as cell phones with cameras.
It ain’t just Rome, either. Try Prague sometime.
I took several selfies over 50 years ago and others have been doing it for maNYYEARS BEFORE THAT.
salewis wrote:
The problems that I see with selfies are (1) The camera is too close to the subject; and (2) the omission of the photographer's arm from the photo. For me, these are distorted images. I find that even an untrained stranger can usually get a better photo. When I take a photo for someone else, I always ask them to check the screen to be sure it's ok. If not, I can do a re-shoot.
You are not getting it. The people who take selfies don't care about those things.
Two other thoughts on the subject. (1) A few years ago, when the Pope came to the U.S., he visited some classrooms in Catholic schools. Bill Maher showed some pictures of students turning their backs on the Pope so they could take selfies of themselves with him. It seems to miss the purpose of a papal audience. (2) I read a couple of years ago that selfie sticks were banned at Auschwitz. The authorities felt that people taking selfies was a desecration of a place which has been retained as a memorial to the millions who died and/or were tortured there.
PGHphoto wrote:
Personally I think its just one more example of the self-absorbed, ego-centric culture in which we live. No one else exists at any given moment but me so how could I even know there is somebody around to help me or ask to take my picture.
Most "Selfies" are not selfies at all, but a group portrait of 2 or 3 people. Selfies eliminated the need to get a stranger to take a picture of the group, or, setting up a tripod,timer and all that rot just to send a picture to the folks back home.
You guys seem to think people that take "selfies" do nothing else but take pictures of just themselves, but truth is, most of the pictures are of several people, and cell phones excel at that task. For example, my daughter moved out of state, she often sends me "selfies" of her and my granddaughter, and husband. Never does she get her arm in the pictures as someone mentioned, and since they are portraits, not landscapes, the background is very much secondary or completely non-relevant. There is nothing self-absorbed or ego-centric about it, just the opposite.
Moreover, people that take selfies also take pictures of landscapes, pets, wildlife, BIF, and about every topic known to man, and that is mostly what they do. They may be "self-absorbed" for the 2 seconds they are getting a picture for dad, but the rest of the day they spend being "self-absorbed" in other activities.
Good thought. Admit I never considered this aspect of the topic.
AJFRED wrote:
Point taken. My bad.
What point?
Without using the “Quote Reply” option as I have done, we are left guessing which post you are addressing.
BigDaddy wrote:
Most "Selfies" are not selfies at all, but a group portrait of 2 or 3 people. Selfies eliminated the need to get a stranger to take a picture of the group, or, setting up a tripod,timer and all that rot just to send a picture to the folks back home.
You guys seem to think people that take "selfies" do nothing else but take pictures of just themselves, but truth is, most of the pictures are of several people, and cell phones excel at that task. For example, my daughter moved out of state, she often sends me "selfies" of her and my granddaughter, and husband. Never does she get her arm in the pictures as someone mentioned, and since they are portraits, not landscapes, the background is very much secondary or completely non-relevant. There is nothing self-absorbed or ego-centric about it, just the opposite.
Moreover, people that take selfies also take pictures of landscapes, pets, wildlife, BIF, and about every topic known to man, and that is mostly what they do. They may be "self-absorbed" for the 2 seconds they are getting a picture for dad, but the rest of the day they spend being "self-absorbed" in other activities.
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Actually, the "Selfie" is aptly named. It includes mainly self generated pictures including one's self as the subject (that's where the term came from). Go to Instagram, twitter or any other major social media site and count the number of times that there is more than just one person in the picture. My experience has come from years of observation at places that are somewhat 'touristy' and from friends/coworkers of the millennial group. There is also research supporting my conclusions. Your own comment that "the background is very much secondary or completely non-relevant" is exactly the point. Why take the selfie at that specific location if the background doesn't matter ? Step to the side and let the people who want to take a picture of the location get the shot. Not being aware or concerned of what others are doing/needing is the EXACT definition of self-absorbed and ego-centric ! Thanks for supporting my statements.
Are there folks that use the cell phone to document the places they are in ? Certainly ! I have no issue with those folks. But when a popular photo site is packed with people taking pictures of themselves as the main subject and no discernible location identifiers, it makes my desire to take a photo of the actual attraction nearly impossible.
I will see if I can find the shot I took of the selfie crowd at the grand canyon so you can see what I was seeing. I had asked people to turn their phones/tablets around and display the shot they just took.
David in Dallas wrote:
I never said I gave it to a stranger. I usually travel in guided tours, and often with a group of friends.
My bad. your point is taken.
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