Harry0 wrote:
That's what she said ...
Very, Very Funny !!! Thanks !!!
DickC
Loc: NE Washington state
I liked it better when they were taking us in the other direction!!
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
OK- Never having served maybe I don't understand military dark humor. But never the less 50,000 americans dying in a useless war that accomplished exactly nothing is not any kind of funny.
boberic wrote:
OK- Never having served maybe I don't understand military dark humor. But never the less 50,000 americans dying in a useless war that accomplished exactly nothing is not any kind of funny.
So, if it's so far over your head, just butt out.
boberic wrote:
OK- Never having served ...
That line says it all, boberic. Just what did you do while "Able Bodied MEN and WOMEN" were laying their lives on the line so YOU could be all smug towards veterans. You people make me sick.
An acquaintance of mine flew Medivac choppers in Nam. After some crashes he mustered out and found a less stressful job ... as an air traffic controller! When that blew up with the dissolution of the union, he became an insurance salesman.
GeorgeH wrote:
An acquaintance of mine flew Medivac choppers in Nam. After some crashes he mustered out and found a less stressful job ... as an air traffic controller! When that blew up with the dissolution of the union, he became an insurance salesman.
Strange. After four years in the Army I took a job with Southern Airways of TX. training Army pilots to fly helicopters. When Vietnam ended way to many helicopter pilots in the market place and I didn't want to live out of a suitcase moving from place to place so I decided to get out of aviation. Had a couple different jobs but eventually settled in as an insurance salesman and spent 38 years doing that until retirement.
DickC
Loc: NE Washington state
Oh, Huey, the most beautiful sound in the world!!
Harry0 wrote:
Just like we're doing in Afghanistan.
Different kettle of fish.
In Viet Nam, the same "war of liberation" was being waged by the Chinese and Russian backed Viet Minh "rebels".
The French military leaders were the same hide-bound "straight legs" who didn't fare well during WWII. Officers who later formed the OAS, and operated out of Algeria, always blamed the legs for the various debacles, including the one at Dien Bien Phu. Tactical officers knew DBP was indefensible (a valley outpost), but ignored their own special forces.
While much has been written of France's desire to maintain Far East colonies, Ho Chi Minh was a devoted communist from the 1920's. There was a lot of political discourse in the 1950's which gave rise to the term "Domino Effect". Only the British seemed to have any luck with their counterinsurgency efforts.
With global waging of war by groups such as Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the Talliban, we no longer have the buffer of two oceans as we once did. There must be a political solution at the end of war, but as yet, we haven't forced the enemy to its knees. We're still waging limited warfare, when we should be keeping those enemies from rest, rearming, and resupply. We still fight in handcuffs against an enemy who can find the three "R's" when they need them. We consider those forces to be the aggressor, setting the rules of engagement. While the press doesn't like the use of napalm, it's as effective a weapon as was ever invented. It provides just the right vacuum in those caves to turn them into death chambers and destroy their materiels.
The Navy is demoting CPO Gallagher for "posing" with a dead enemy. However, no one was punished in Mogadishu for dragging the dead body of a U.S. soldier through their streets.
pendennis wrote:
Different kettle of fish.
In Viet Nam, the same "war of liberation" was being waged by the Chinese and Russian backed Viet Minh "rebels".
The French military leaders were the same hide-bound "straight legs" who didn't fare well during WWII. Officers who later formed the OAS, and operated out of Algeria, always blamed the legs for the various debacles, including the one at Dien Bien Phu. Tactical officers knew DBP was indefensible (a valley outpost), but ignored their own special forces.
While much has been written of France's desire to maintain Far East colonies, Ho Chi Minh was a devoted communist from the 1920's. There was a lot of political discourse in the 1950's which gave rise to the term "Domino Effect". Only the British seemed to have any luck with their counterinsurgency efforts.
With global waging of war by groups such as Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the Talliban, we no longer have the buffer of two oceans as we once did. There must be a political solution at the end of war, but as yet, we haven't forced the enemy to its knees. We're still waging limited warfare, when we should be keeping those enemies from rest, rearming, and resupply. We still fight in handcuffs against an enemy who can find the three "R's" when they need them. We consider those forces to be the aggressor, setting the rules of engagement. While the press doesn't like the use of napalm, it's as effective a weapon as was ever invented. It provides just the right vacuum in those caves to turn them into death chambers and destroy their materiels.
The Navy is demoting CPO Gallagher for "posing" with a dead enemy. However, no one was punished in Mogadishu for dragging the dead body of a U.S. soldier through their streets.
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Your last sentence says it all!
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