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Jun 17, 2019 21:25:33   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Something just occurred to me, and maybe I'm slow on the uptake here, but there's been and likely will be, a lot of talk regarding cellphone cameras vs. dedicated cameras, with a lot of negativity voiced toward the cellphone cameras. Not everyone is an artist, and many don't aspire to be an artists, but they do like to take pictures and share them. Others are or would like to become artists and have a love for taking and displaying beautiful artful photographs for the benefit of not only themselves, but other. But the thing that came to me, on the side of the cellphone photographers/snapshooters, etc, is that in posting their images on social media or sharing them with friends and families, they are simply sharing life. And there it is, plain and simple. Sharing life in its various aspects with others, and they enjoy this communication. And the cellphone camera makes this easy. It brings joy in sharing life with others in this way. At the end of the day, the two different kinds of camera really can't be compared, and shouldn't be. Their intended uses are entirely different, and probably should stay that way.

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Jun 17, 2019 21:39:09   #
Jimyo65 Loc: Orig: Elmore,AL. Current: San Antonio, TX
 
I am a proud I-phonologist. I have a hand-me-down iPhone 7+ and am quite pleased with how it makes photos. All pictures I post are made with this iPhone and according to me and reviewers’ comments, they’re pretty good! Yes, I would love to have a camera with all the bells and whistles but I also enjoy golf as a hobby, which can be quite expensive. I subscribe to free iPhone tips on photo making and enhance photos using both post editing tools on the iPhone and several free and a couple of paid editing tools from the Apple App Store, depending on my “artsy” mood. I love to share them and value critiques and suggestions as do most subscribers to Ugly HH. Do what pleases yourself, looking for the beauty in everything and the “I wonder what it would look like if I...” approach to experiment with different looks, scenes, and post editing. And be Snappy Happy!!

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Jun 17, 2019 21:41:29   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
CO wrote:
I see that a lot and wonder if they will even look at the pictures again later. If so, they will just swipe their finger across the screen when reviewing photos and see it for a fraction of a second.


I think the opposite is true. They will post those pictures on social media and tehy will be viewed more times than any 'real camera' shot unless you are a pro and can get it published somewhere.
Sad, but true.

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Jun 17, 2019 21:42:44   #
Jimyo65 Loc: Orig: Elmore,AL. Current: San Antonio, TX
 
Comment deleted by originator. Posted elsewhere.

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Jun 17, 2019 21:47:52   #
Jimyo65 Loc: Orig: Elmore,AL. Current: San Antonio, TX
 
Well stated, Wingpilot! Thank you!

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Jun 17, 2019 22:08:26   #
Alby144 Loc: Northern Nevada
 
Sometimes my cell phone is all I have and something amazing is confronting me, so I use it. I have gotten some really amazing results with it too! That is, until I need to zoom in, then results are at best, poor.

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Jun 17, 2019 22:51:50   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Larry22 wrote:
Good morning, I'm not sure how to get a question answered, this is my dilima I'm pondering being buying the new Nikon 70-200 F 2.8 instead of upgrading my Nikon D800 that Is in perfect condition. My current 80-200 F 2.8 is old but in very good condition, thinking what Is best ?


Create your own thread. Go to the top of the page and click on Create New Topic. Give it a meaningful name like "Need help with a used Nikon 70-200 purchase decision".

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Jun 17, 2019 23:03:29   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Why blame the photographer's choosing the wrong composition or orientation for any given shot on the equipment? Why would "most" images look better in horizontal orientation? Some STILL images work best in a horizontal format, other in vertical, some in square and yet others a circular or an elliptical final presentation. Nor do all compositions have to fit into the same aspect ratio either anything for the square to panoramic can work- depending on this subject and the treatment. No matter what kind of camera or device is used, the photographer can determine the composition and if necessary, leave enough space for more radical cropping in post-processing, I don't even like the terms "portrait and landscape" substituted for vertical and horizontal. Depend on the subject and the desired composition and environment, you can make a masterful portrait in a square or horizontal format or make an architectural study or a landscape in a vertical mode.

Funny thing, I have seen photographers with state of the art up-to-date- DSLRs and mirrorless- the latest and greatest super cameras, and are too lazy to flip the camera and just shoot everything in one orientation. It' easy enough to do, even without all theses newfangled grips, L-brackets and gimbals. Years ago, photographers routinely did that with 4x5 press cameras- flipping a DSLR or a device is a featherweight in comparison.

Where there's a will there is a way. I found it a bit awkward to operate my cell phone camera in a horizontal position for certain shots so I invested 5 bucks at the Dollar store and bought this game grip- I don't even play video or online games but it makes a great holder for the phone. A selfie stick that is not extended makes a nice little monopod-like grip as well. Now I can do VIDEOS in Cinemascope, Vistavision, Todd-AO, Panavision 70, Cinerama and, well, I-Max? maybe not yet!
Why blame the photographer's choosing the wrong co... (show quote)


You are not the first person who has indicated having difficulties using a cell phone in the horizontal position so there must be something to it but I can't imagine what that is. Either way I just hold the phone, compose, and touch the on screen shutter button. Perhaps it the design and location of your controls.

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Jun 17, 2019 23:11:10   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Jimyo65 wrote:
Well stated, Wingpilot! Thank you!


👍🏻👍🏻

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Jun 17, 2019 23:12:18   #
Jimyo65 Loc: Orig: Elmore,AL. Current: San Antonio, TX
 
Amen, brother!

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Jun 18, 2019 02:07:27   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Something just occurred to me, and maybe I'm slow on the uptake here, but there's been and likely will be, a lot of talk regarding cellphone cameras vs. dedicated cameras, with a lot of negativity voiced toward the cellphone cameras. Not everyone is an artist, and many don't aspire to be an artists, but they do like to take pictures and share them. Others are or would like to become artists and have a love for taking and displaying beautiful artful photographs for the benefit of not only themselves, but other. But the thing that came to me, on the side of the cellphone photographers/snapshooters, etc, is that in posting their images on social media or sharing them with friends and families, they are simply sharing life. And there it is, plain and simple. Sharing life in its various aspects with others, and they enjoy this communication. And the cellphone camera makes this easy. It brings joy in sharing life with others in this way. At the end of the day, the two different kinds of camera really can't be compared, and shouldn't be. Their intended uses are entirely different, and probably should stay that way.
Something just occurred to me, and maybe I'm slow ... (show quote)


Excellent analysis. Very well said. Kudos.

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Jun 18, 2019 02:42:01   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
JD750 wrote:
Excellent analysis. Very well said. Kudos.


Just how I feel, and a little objectivity. Hopefully. Tnx.

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Jun 18, 2019 05:52:38   #
BebuLamar
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Something just occurred to me, and maybe I'm slow on the uptake here, but there's been and likely will be, a lot of talk regarding cellphone cameras vs. dedicated cameras, with a lot of negativity voiced toward the cellphone cameras. Not everyone is an artist, and many don't aspire to be an artists, but they do like to take pictures and share them. Others are or would like to become artists and have a love for taking and displaying beautiful artful photographs for the benefit of not only themselves, but other. But the thing that came to me, on the side of the cellphone photographers/snapshooters, etc, is that in posting their images on social media or sharing them with friends and families, they are simply sharing life. And there it is, plain and simple. Sharing life in its various aspects with others, and they enjoy this communication. And the cellphone camera makes this easy. It brings joy in sharing life with others in this way. At the end of the day, the two different kinds of camera really can't be compared, and shouldn't be. Their intended uses are entirely different, and probably should stay that way.
Something just occurred to me, and maybe I'm slow ... (show quote)


And that is why I do criticize the OP for even talk about it. People use cell phone because it works well for them. Give them our camera and it wouldn't work for them.

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Jun 18, 2019 06:12:22   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
bertloomis wrote:
Yes, perhaps you are right. But if one transfers them to a computer and views them there they are shown horizontally. So, you can either cock your head 90 degrees or you can get software to change the orientation.

Many monitors have a rotating mount. I believe it is meant for viewing documents on portrait orientation as since most documents are printed that way. It saves time by reducing the need to scroll as often. I see it mainly in multiple monitor setups where the primary display is in portrait orientation. As you probably know, Windows lets you switch orientations with a single combination keystroke or using the Display settings available with a right-click on the desktop. I think a Mac does it if say “iPhone” directly into the mouse.

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Jun 18, 2019 09:12:23   #
rambler Loc: Masssachusetts
 
Excellent images are taken on cell phones. There are sites devoted to cell phone photos by wonderful photographers. There are excellent apps for processing and editing cell phone photos. Just think of cell phones, not as phones, but as cameras. Just think how many times you look at a photo you enjoy. Is your first impression: Oh, look a photo taken by a Canon.....or substitute any known brand. Just add cell phones to the mix! The best camera is the one in your hand.

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