Graphics Card Replacement? (Page 4): My best suggestion is that for the price of an average lunch you can subscribe to the Adobe CC Photographer Suite which will give you everything...

Dale Evans - Amaetur Loc: Baton Rouge, La

My best suggestion is that for the price of an average lunch you can subscribe to the Adobe CC Photographer Suite which will give you everything needed plus some of the best free training available.

https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html#photography-mini-plans

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

Dale Evans - Amaetur wrote:

My best suggestion is that for the price of an average lunch you can subscribe to the Adobe CC Photographer Suite which will give you everything needed plus some of the best free training available.

https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html#photography-mini-plans

I'm beginning to think your suggestion has obvious appeal. 🤔

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

I installed the SSD today. Why is it never as easy as they show on YouTube. Dell cable lengths made it more of a challenge than it needed to be. As to ON1 performance, it loads a little faster. However..... going from Browse to Edit, loading the RAW file isn't much (if any) faster than before. I think I'll sit on it for a while before I jump on that GPU.

TonyReynolds Loc: Granville, OH

47greyfox wrote:

I installed the SSD today. Why is it never as easy as they show on YouTube. Dell cable lengths made it more of a challenge than it needed to be. As to ON1 performance, it loads a little faster. However..... going from Browse to Edit, loading the RAW file isn't much (if any) faster than before. I think I'll sit on it for a while before I jump on that GPU.

Does your system boot up faster with the SSD?

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

47greyfox wrote:

I installed the SSD today. Why is it never as easy as they show on YouTube. Dell cable lengths made it more of a challenge than it needed to be. As to ON1 performance, it loads a little faster. However..... going from Browse to Edit, loading the RAW file isn't much (if any) faster than before. I think I'll sit on it for a while before I jump on that GPU.

If by “loading the raw file”, you mean loading from disk, then there is a problem, because it ought to load a LOT faster IF the raw file is on SSD AND the SSD is attached with a fast enough interface to utilize the SSD’s speed. If all of that is true and it still doesn’t load significantly faster, then there is an issue with ON1 or memory. How is the SSD attached?

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

TonyReynolds wrote:

Does your system boot up faster with the SSD?

System boots faster and individual programs load faster. By how much is difficult to say.

TonyReynolds Loc: Granville, OH

47greyfox wrote:

System boots faster and individual programs load faster. By how much is difficult to say.

I went from 1 minute load times for PhotoShop CC to less than 9 sec up and running on a SSD. Similar results in system boot up times. Something isn't adding up if you're not noticing dramatic speed differences. Just my opinion.

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

TriX wrote:

If by “loading the raw file”, you mean loading from disk, then there is a problem, because it ought to load a LOT faster IF the raw file is on SSD AND the SSD is attached with a fast enough interface to utilize the SSD’s speed. If all of that is true and it still doesn’t load significantly faster, then there is an issue with ON1 or memory. How is the SSD attached?

It’s attached via a standard SATA 3.

fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM

47greyfox wrote:

I use ON1 Photo Raw 2019.5 (release of today 13.5.1.7136) and have been plagued by slow rendering of raw files (most are about 24-26mb) ever since the initial bug infested version of 2019.5.

I have a similar 8700 Dell and while there are many solutions offered I wonder if you have looked at the performance tab of the task manager to see what part of the computer is being worked hard. It could be none and you are just dealing with a software behavior...or it could point to the area of the computer needing help, that is, the video card, Hard Drive, or the CPU is working really hard (I doubt that).

The SSD is a good idea regardless of your current issue. They aren't that expense now and they will make a very noticeable different in computer performance - overall, not just with ON1.

The 1050 video card is a good one, but I don't think it is a bus powered (only) card.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

47greyfox wrote:

It’s attached via a standard SATA 3.

That is one problem. SATA 3 is only 375 MBytes/sec. max, and depending on the drive, it is likely a number of times faster than that. Do you not have any SATA 6 ports on your MB? If you look at the SATA ports on your MB, you may notice that some are different colors from others. For example, on my MB the 6Gb ports are blue while the 3Gb ports are yellow, but it varies depending on the manufacturer. Check the specs on your MB and if you have any 6Gb ports, use one for your SSD.

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

fredpnm wrote:

I have a similar 8700 Dell and while there are man... (show quote)

Observing the computer load via the Task Manager doesn’t reveal anything working very hard. I have two monitors connected so I had ON1 running on one while the TM process view on the other. The biggest memory and process hog believe or not is Google Chrome. When I’m working with ON1, it’s normally the only program running.

This is the single fan 1050 ti that is buss powered and doesn’t need power from the PCIe.

https://www.amazon.com/Geforce-Phoenix-Graphics-PH-GTX1050TI-4G-Graphic/dp/B01M360WG6

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

47greyfox wrote:

Observing the computer load via the Task Manager d... (show quote)

Is your graphics card driving both monitors, or is one driven by the graphics card and the other by the CPU on-board graphics? I’m wondering if unhooking one monitor makes any difference...

rcarol

TonyReynolds wrote:

I went from 1 minute load times for PhotoShop CC to less than 9 sec up and running on a SSD. Similar results in system boot up times. Something isn't adding up if you're not noticing dramatic speed differences. Just my opinion.

As I've stated before, an SSD will improve booting, program load times and file access but when it comes to rendering an image during post processing an SSD will show very little improvement in performance.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

rcarol wrote:

As I've stated before, an SSD will improve booting, program load times and file access but when it comes to rendering an image during post processing an SSD will show very little improvement in performance.

I dunno. Depends on whether the OS and/or application needs to fetch commands from disk, page to disk or use disk as scratch space.

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

TriX wrote:

Is your graphics card driving both monitors, or is one driven by the graphics card and the other by the CPU on-board graphics? I’m wondering if unhooking one monitor makes any difference...

Graphics card is driving both both monitors. I've not disconnected the 2nd monitor but I have turned it off and have tried a couple different settings in W10 for Multiple displays, which didn't appear to have any affect.