Going to Buy a Mirrorless camera looking for recommendations (Page 9): Obviously the phrase "going to buy a mirrorless" evokes a lot of responses lol! I will only add that the Fuji...

deer2ker Loc: Nashville, TN

donie95 wrote:

I am considering adding a Mirrorless Camera for its weight and Video advantages when I travel . I currently have a D750 and a D500 but I find them to large for just travel shots and Video. I was leaning toward the Fujifilm xt3. I have heard good things about it plus it has a good lens line up, at whats seems a fair price for the body and a kit lens of around $1300. I know Sony is a leader in the mirrorless field. I am looking for thoughts and recommendations.

Obviously the phrase "going to buy a mirrorless" evokes a lot of responses lol! I will only add that the Fuji cameras are, in my opinion, the best bang for the buck because of the quality of their lens' at smaller price points - that "kit lens" that you would be getting is one of the best zooms in it's range - hardly a kit lens'. I have posted this video before but I think it would help you see what the Fuji can do with some of it being done with the kit lens. https://vimeo.com/306891236 (And this was done with an XT-2. The XT-3 is even better with focusing and video quality!)

danbir1 Loc: North Potomac, MD

At B&H, here is the link again...
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1311278-REG/fujifilm_16542751_x_t20_camera_with_xf18_55mm.html

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Gene51 wrote:

... For me, having the flexibility of a zoom lens to grab that shot that just can't be taken with a 35mm (equivalent) lens is worth owning one, or two, or more zooms. If you only do street photography, I suppose it is a good solution. But I still would rather use my cellphone for that. I prefer to get the shots I want and not having to settle. Just sayin'

If you settle for a cell phone shot you are pretty much stuck with a 28mm equivalent field of view.

While 35mm equivalent may not be ideal for all situations, it has stood the test of time for casual photography and street shooting where the distances are usually modest enough to make "zooming with your feet" practical. In a pinch, you can easily shorten the focal length (and get more megapixels) by stitching.

Zoom lenses become more practical and affordable at focal lengths longer than normal starting with the 70-200 range.

The X100_ series is a very light and convenient size that produces excellent images. You can also attach a lens to convert to 28mm or 50mm equivalent but that adds a lot of bulk and weight.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

catchlight.. wrote:

Dick is correct... 4 3 makes little sense and the eventual death will be sooner than later. That is a common thought today.

https://fstoppers.com/gear/imminent-death-micro-four-thirds-301146

Not bloody likely. Both Panasonic and Olympus are introducing new gear on a regular basis.

I agree with Northrup on a lot of points, but this is not one of them.

PierreD

catchlight.. wrote:

Dick is correct... 4 3 makes little sense and the eventual death will be sooner than later. That is a common thought today.

https://fstoppers.com/gear/imminent-death-micro-four-thirds-301146

Many "common thoughts" turn out to be plain wrong... Just listen to the news, and this is why we try and educate our kids to think critically and not take things at face value.

As to Northrup video, it's been analyzed and dissected to death. The common thought (!) is that it's not particularly objective or of significant value when it comes to predicting the future of the m4/3 format. After all, it's just one guy's personal opinion - nothing wrong with this, of course. Olympus, in particular, is investing a lot of R&D resources into this format. It would seem surprising that they would do so without having carefully analyzed market trends and come to conclude that there is a future for the m4/3 format.

joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

donie95 wrote:

I am considering adding a Mirrorless Camera for its weight and Video advantages when I travel . I currently have a D750 and a D500 but I find them to large for just travel shots and Video. I was leaning toward the Fujifilm xt3. I have heard good things about it plus it has a good lens line up, at whats seems a fair price for the body and a kit lens of around $1300. I know Sony is a leader in the mirrorless field. I am looking for thoughts and recommendations.

The XT-3 is a fine camera with the right lens. There are several good alternative you could consider, in crop or M4/3 cameras.

My choice would be the A6400 and 18-135 OSS E lens. This combo weighs in at less that 26 oz. and covers a range of 27 to 202 mm.

lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.

donie95 wrote:

Full frame is not important at all. I would like good video with a lighter lens line up and lighter body

In the draft of my first response, I forgot that you ARE the OP, donie95, so your response, quoted above, reflects your current values, which is, by definition, fine.

Personally, I’m almost in agreement with you, though I know of at least one situation where it matters to me: tilt/shift wide angle lenses. I know of NO tilt/shift lens for APS-C cameras that yields a 35 mm-equivalent focal length of 24 mm.

penndragonn

The Fuji X-T3 for all intensive purposes is NOT larger at all than the Olympus Em 1 or 5 line. Had both and when you say heavier, we're talking ounces. They are VERY similar in size. The Fuji has a much larger sensor and 4K Video, but no IBIS. I went to the X-H1 from the XT 1 and 2 models. Love it. Fuji colors SOOC JPEGS are fantastic. Look into specs of the Fuji XT line and compare to the Olympus line. My personal experience with both shows me the Fuji line is far Superior in almost all aspects. Personal opinion yes, but it is from owning both systems.

lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.

ggenova64 wrote:

"Umh, did this deal as you wrote actually change"? No, it is still listed under $1,000.

You're funny, ggenova. I was not referring to any change in the price of "the deal"; rather, as I elaborated, the focal length range of the lens that you stated was "24 - 70 mm". I suggest you reread my prior post.

davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.

SuperflyTNT wrote:

I completely disagree. I have a 3rd party book on the menu system and while the paper manual is sparse, there is a 330 page manual online. I don’t know about software because I use LR & PS and I don’t know about customer service because I’ve never needed it from them. Once the camera is set up the ergonomics are fantastic and intuitive. You almost never need to use the menus. It was a complete joy to shoot with. The only thing that made me give it up was upgrading to the G9.

Love my Panasonic G85 super nice photos nice stabilization

Bill_de Loc: US

Before the D3 Nikon claimed there was no need for full frame. They said the DX technology was improving so fast that it was all anybody would ever need. Their marketing department must have disagreed.

Nobody can foresee the future of the camera market, but they do need to keep innovating to stay relevant. Tony makes a living with videos that will be controversial and build his click count. He and Chelsea do keep it interesting.

In fact it is the full frame camera that will disappear. As sensors get cheaper the manufacturers will concentrate on medium format. Anyone not on board will be using MFT or the cell phone camera of tomorrow.

Only the first two words of the above statement can be contested. The rest is conjecture.

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Bill P

The website cited by cachlight is obviously influenced by Tony Northrup, her's quoted throughout and his statements never questioned. This is the flaw.

Here's how it works: The videos are a means for Northrup to make money. He needs to get many views for that to happen. Reasoned considered posts will not attract attention. Therefore, he frequently resorts to clickbait. He is rather good at it, better than at commentary on photography. It is also a well know fact that the internet is the wild west. You can say anything on it .

Good news: m4/3 isn't going away soon. Bad news: Northrup isn't either.

PierreD

Bill P wrote:

The website cited by cachlight is obviously influe... (show quote)

Not necessarily a bad thing that Tony is here to stay - whether you agree or not with his statements and provocations, the videos are entertaining and it's always good to hear of multiple viewpoints on any question. I don't take a lot of what he says for granted, but enjoy watching him perform.

joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

Bill P wrote:

The website cited by cachlight is obviously influe... (show quote)

TN & Chelsea are my favorite U-tubers. They are entertaining and often insightful. Sure he is provocative at times and his motives are obvious but compared to the amateurs and nut cases doing videos I'll take them over all the rest any time.

To deny his photographic knowledge is absurd and smacks of jealously and possible ignorance of your own knowledge.

No one knows every thing or is right all the time. My philosophy is listen, observe, take what you value and leave the rest.

PhotosBySteve

I personally own 2 DSLR'S and 2 mirroless.
To begin with, mirrorless offers virtually no weight savings whatsoever over their DSLR counterpart. That's all marketing hype!!! One or two ounces does not amount to much percentage wise.
The two mirrorless cameras I have are the Sony A7RII and the Canon EOS R. The Canon runs circles around the Sony in ease of use, auto focus capabilities, menu design, compatible lenses and image quality. Just to mention a few. The lens choice and AF are the most major benefits, bar none.