Closeup, not macro tips, for outdoor flowers
Jun 8, 2019 20:19:46 #
SWFeral
Loc: SWNM
kymarto wrote:
My personal tips are two: do not be afraid to use large apertures and try to shoot against the light, or at least with something other than flat light with the sun at your back. I use old vintage lenses for the bokeh, but this applies also to modern lenses. Here are a few examples
What kind of vintage lenses? I really like the look of these photos. Don't know if my Canon 7D would accommodate something like that.
Jun 8, 2019 20:28:38 #
Jun 8, 2019 21:18:48 #
frankraney wrote:
A slightly different angle might have excluded those annoying blue flowers.
a lot of things might have helped, the most importent one was to pay attention to the image in the viewfinder.
Jun 8, 2019 21:59:29 #
uhaas2009 wrote:
I would take one by one and start with 70mm-f2.8-f11,f20....same with 200mm, 300mm......
If you stop down that much, the increased depth of field will be offset by the loss of optical sharpness. It also loses bokeh if you want that. With my Sigma, the optimal sharpness is around f/5.6 and then falls off very sharply after that. This is based upon Reiken's FoCal.
Also, at those smaller apertures, the decreased shutter speeds or increased ISO's bring along their own problems. You have to decide what is most important for yourself.
Jun 9, 2019 03:03:23 #
Taken with Canon 18-135mm non-macro. 2019 Philadelphia Flower Show.
Jun 9, 2019 07:54:05 #
Kaib795 wrote:
Great information and very interesting. My favorit... (show quote)
My favorite lens is much more of a beast than the UMN 165mm. It is a Dallmeyer lens for TV, 210mm f2.0. Weighs almost 8 pounds, but great bokeh. There are a few others that I also love; maybe I will do a separate post to introduce some of them. These are from the Dallmeyer.
Jun 9, 2019 08:44:55 #
kymarto wrote:
My favorite lens is much more of a beast than the UMN 165mm. It is a Dallmeyer lens for TV, 210mm f2.0. Weighs almost 8 pounds, but great bokeh. There are a few others that I also love; maybe I will do a separate post to introduce some of them. These are from the Dallmeyer.
Those are fantastic images. I have two books on fine art landscape photography. Your photos look like ones in the books. I never heard of a Dallmeyer lens. I wonder if I could get one of Nikon's DC (defocus control) lenses and get similar results. I shot with one of Nikon's DC lenses once. It was awesome how out of focus areas could be altered.
Those Dallmeyer lenses seem to go way back. I saw a Dallmeyer portrait lens on Ebay that was patented in 1867.
Jun 9, 2019 08:58:37 #
CO wrote:
Those are fantastic images. I have two books on fine art landscape photography. Your photos look like ones in the books. I never heard of a Dallmeyer lens. I wonder if I could get one of Nikon's DC (defocus control) lenses and get similar results. I shot with one of Nikon's DC lenses once. It was awesome how out of focus areas could be altered.
Those Dallmeyer lenses seem to go way back. I saw a Dallmeyer portrait lens on Ebay that was patented in 1867.
Those Dallmeyer lenses seem to go way back. I saw a Dallmeyer portrait lens on Ebay that was patented in 1867.
The Nikon DC will not produce those effects, although the defocus control does produce some interesting results in OOF areas. The Dallmeyer Super Six series used extremely thick elements with very expensive rare earth glasses in a double gauss design, which anyway tends to produce a characteristic bokeh. There is another defocus control lens a bit like the Nikon, which was the Tamron portrait zoom with a soft focus control. That produces much more "detailed" bokeh than the Nikon. Two examples:
Jun 9, 2019 09:07:26 #
kymarto wrote:
My favorite lens is much more of a beast than the UMN 165mm. It is a Dallmeyer lens for TV, 210mm f2.0. Weighs almost 8 pounds, but great bokeh. There are a few others that I also love; maybe I will do a separate post to introduce some of them. These are from the Dallmeyer.
Outstanding images, kymarto. I was especially captivated by #1 #3, #6 (my favorite) and #7. Not that I’m ever hoping to purchase one, what does a Dallmeyer 210mm f/2.0 cost? It probably would not fit well on my X100 premium p&s.
Jun 9, 2019 10:57:15 #
The 85 1.8 with extension tubes is an excellent close-up lens. You can buy a used manual focus Nikon micro lens for a very small amount of money.
Jun 9, 2019 12:22:59 #
Kaib795
Loc: Maryland, USA
Really unique perspective shots. I like them both but find the first catches my eye as she is in the hunt for her picture. I have just received Nikon 105mm and 135mm D/DC lens and have yet to test them. My intent was to use them for portraits but I wonder how well it would work to create your effect? What do you think?
Jun 9, 2019 12:28:43 #
Jun 9, 2019 15:42:50 #
rjaywallace wrote:
Outstanding images, kymarto. I was especially captivated by #1 #3, #6 (my favorite) and #7. Not that I’m ever hoping to purchase one, what does a Dallmeyer 210mm f/2.0 cost? It probably would not fit well on my X100 premium p&s.
I got mine for $10,000 which was already a huge stretch for me. They normally start at around $50,000 and can go to $150,000 in good condition. Mine has some issues, but minor, so it was a bargain.
Jun 9, 2019 15:45:01 #
Kaib795 wrote:
Really unique perspective shots. I like them both but find the first catches my eye as she is in the hunt for her picture. I have just received Nikon 105mm and 135mm D/DC lens and have yet to test them. My intent was to use them for portraits but I wonder how well it would work to create your effect? What do you think?
My understanding is they use a different kind of defocusing, which is not meant to create soft focus, so the effect is a lot more subtle on the Nikkors. But I hear they are excellent lenses.
Jun 10, 2019 12:43:11 #
Besides a set of extension tubes (best results on a short prime lens) you can just 'be done with it' and get a Micro lens. Even a used, non-Nikon Micro lens will be excellent. In the 90mm-100+mm range is generally the most widely useful.
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