Tiny Pupae and eggs
May 24, 2019 18:08:35 #
The eggs were hiding in tiny crevices, I am wondering if they are Mite eggs.
May 24, 2019 18:41:08 #
I think your 'pupae' are bags of one of a couple families of moths that construct similar outfits (Bagworms and Casebearers, among others). Do they move over time? If not, they may be reused as cocoons as well. 2nd thought - are they near a stream? Don't look like any I have seen, but could be Caddis Flies emerging to pupate, probably not. Don't have a clue on the 'eggs'. I like your inquisitiveness and photo ability!!! Keep some and find out??? Always something interesting.
May 24, 2019 18:46:28 #
EnglishBrenda wrote:
The eggs were hiding in tiny crevices, I am wondering if they are Mite eggs.
The first two look to be cadisfly cases. They look as if they are sand grains cemented together. Are your shots near water? The larva are known to pupate a bit away from a stream.
No help with eggs, bit if you look there is a loose weaving of silk binding them.
That may mean spider or mites.
Bill
May 24, 2019 18:55:56 #
relbugman wrote:
I think your 'pupae' are bags of one of a couple families of moths that construct similar outfits (Bagworms and Casebearers, among others). Do they move over time? If not, they may be reused as cocoons as well. 2nd thought - are they near a stream? Don't look like any I have seen, but could be Caddis Flies emerging to pupate, probably not. Don't have a clue on the 'eggs'. I like your inquisitiveness and photo ability!!! Keep some and find out??? Always something interesting.
Thanks relbugman, I found these on gravestones in a cemetery. I will see if I find out if they move. There is no stream nearby. I will collect some of the eggs, there are quite a lot around the graves but they are really tiny, I needed the camera lens to see them clearly. I have just recalled that there are water tanks and taps for people to water plants but of course it is relatively stagnant, so not perfect for caddis.
May 24, 2019 18:59:57 #
newtoyou wrote:
The first two look to be cadisfly cases. They look as if they are sand grains cemented together. Are your shots near water? The larva are known to pupate a bit away from a stream.
No help with eggs, bit if you look there is a loose weaving of silk binding them.
That may mean spider or mites.
Bill
No help with eggs, bit if you look there is a loose weaving of silk binding them.
That may mean spider or mites.
Bill
Hi Bill, No water around. The cases are on old gravestones and there will be materials around for them to use. On second thoughts, there is some water available in tanks with taps for people to water plants and flowers on graves so that is a possibility.
May 24, 2019 19:32:37 #
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May 24, 2019 23:05:06 #
relbugman wrote:
I think your 'pupae' are bags of one of a couple families of moths that construct similar outfits (Bagworms and Casebearers, among others). Do they move over time? If not, they may be reused as cocoons as well. 2nd thought - are they near a stream? Don't look like any I have seen, but could be Caddis Flies emerging to pupate, probably not. Don't have a clue on the 'eggs'. I like your inquisitiveness and photo ability!!! Keep some and find out??? Always something interesting.
In looking deeper I find nothing that looks like your tube like cases, except some cadisfly cases. By coincidence I was looking through a gallon of gravel from a stream and was looking through it. Here is where you need a fine tooth comb. I had found cadisfly cases that look very close to yours. Most empty.
Lacewing larva camouflage with bits and pieces of debris. They may be pupating, and so quiescent.
Bill
May 25, 2019 02:45:54 #
newtoyou wrote:
In looking deeper I find nothing that looks like your tube like cases, except some cadisfly cases. By coincidence I was looking through a gallon of gravel from a stream and was looking through it. Here is where you need a fine tooth comb. I had found cadisfly cases that look very close to yours. Most empty.
Lacewing larva camouflage with bits and pieces of debris. They may be pupating, and so quiescent.
Bill
Lacewing larva camouflage with bits and pieces of debris. They may be pupating, and so quiescent.
Bill
I am still looking too, there are land Caddisfly but not in this area, I think only in Worcestershire.
May 25, 2019 03:00:05 #
napabob wrote:
your eggs appear to have legs, might they be mites, do they move at all?
Yes they do Bob but I saw a few of these patches of eggs and did not notice any movement at all. Some patches showed empty egg cases. I think they are Red mite eggs, there are a few red mites around the graves at the moment.
May 25, 2019 06:05:04 #
I have an update on an ID for the first image. A Luffia ferchaultella which is a moth of the Psychidae family. A bagworm common in Southern England (I am in Kent, SE England) and feeds on Lichen. Photos show the layers of Lichen in the case.
See https://www.naturespot.org.uk/node/124093
See https://www.naturespot.org.uk/node/124093
May 25, 2019 08:27:26 #
EnglishBrenda wrote:
I have an update on an ID for the first image. A Luffia ferchaultella which is a moth of the Psychidae family. A bagworm common in Southern England (I am in Kent, SE England) and feeds on Lichen. Photos show the layers of Lichen in the case.
See https://www.naturespot.org.uk/node/124093
See https://www.naturespot.org.uk/node/124093
The green in the cases was the clue. I missed it.
Well done, Brenda.
Bill
May 25, 2019 09:19:49 #
May 25, 2019 13:19:35 #
May 25, 2019 13:25:47 #
relbugman wrote:
I think your 'pupae' are bags of one of a couple families of moths that construct similar outfits (Bagworms and Casebearers, among others). Do they move over time? If not, they may be reused as cocoons as well. 2nd thought - are they near a stream? Don't look like any I have seen, but could be Caddis Flies emerging to pupate, probably not. Don't have a clue on the 'eggs'. I like your inquisitiveness and photo ability!!! Keep some and find out??? Always something interesting.
Wouldn't Caddis flies be on the bottom of the stream? That is where I find casings for this type of insect such as Caddis flies, Stone flies etc.
Dennis
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