Trying to decide between two Dell Monitors.
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
jerryc41 wrote:
We have a couple of the Dell SE2717HX 27" monitors - under $200 - and they'e fine.
Thanks, I’ll look into that model!
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
Echo Tango wrote:
Just purchased the U2718Q to go with a new Dell XPS 15 laptop. Have had the U2718Q monitor for a week. Very nice. Easy setup. YouTube 4K videos look great. Side note: Thought the laptop had an issue - but turned out it was a Onedrive related problem, not the laptop. Point being, Dell support was very responsive; even followed up with a phone call a day later to see if everything was still OK.
Thanks, and great to hear about Dell support.
Fredrick wrote:
Thanks for the advice. I was concerned that 4K might result in images too small for PP, and I’m not going to be watching movies on my PC. Anything that can result in better accuracy is great.
The 4K would make some of the text too small but not the images. I wouldn't mind using the 4K (some people have problem) but color accuracy is always much more important when you do photo editing. Besides the other monitor still have very high resolution.
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
rond-photography wrote:
I can't help you specifically with those monitors, but I have been using a Dell S2340M for about 5 years now and am super happy with it. Even before calibration, prints I got back from various online processors came back looking like what I saw on the screen. When I calibrate, the difference between before and after is almost undetectable.
Best bet is to Google reviews of them and see what complaints people have.
I hope this helps. I see that most responses have been either pro or anti Dell and don't address your question - welcome to UHH!
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Thanks, and great to hear about your monitor lasting 5 years and still going strong.
Fredrick wrote:
Hello. I have an old 23" Monitor that I can't even calibrate with SpyderLite5Elite. So I'm looking to buy a 27" monitor, and was hoping someone with experience with Dell monitors, and I guess monitors in general, could help. It's been many years since I've bought a monitor.
The two monitors I'm looking at are the Dell UltraSharp 27 4K Monitor: U2718Q, and the Dell UltraSharp 27 Monitor with Premier Color - UP2716D. They're both $399. Just don't know which one would be better for post processing images? The U2718Q has a native resolution of 4K 3840 x 2160 at 60 Hz, and the UP2716D has a native resolution of QHD 2560 x 1440 at 60 Hz. Should I be focusing on one with the higher resolution? I just don't know what's more important, etc.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Get the one with the better color gamut. Review the specs and look for the percentage of the Adobe RGB color space. It should approach 100%. sRGB should always BE 100%.
Some general pointers on monitors:
> Avoid gaming monitors for photo editing. They are too bright and too contrasty!
> Color gamut is more important than resolution, once you get to Full HD 1920x1080 or better.
> Most monitors come out of the box set for *office* use, meaning the brightness is WAY too high for photo editing. If you do not calibrate them properly with a kit of hardware and software, your prints will not come close to matching your monitor. When calibrating with a colorimeter or spectrophotometer, start with these aims, if your software will let you:
Brightness 85 to 120 candelas per square meter (cd/m^2) (Photo labs use 105, typically.)
Black Point 0.5 cd/m^2
Gamma 2.2 (Mac or PC!)
Color Temperature 5800K or the software's recommendation. (It will vary with ambient light brightness if your puck has a sensor and the software reads the room light level.)
With these settings, your monitor and prints SHOULD be a close match, provided color management is enabled properly in your software.
If you print from software like Photoshop, let EITHER the software OR the driver manage color, but not both. Double profiling ruins your color.
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
burkphoto wrote:
Get the one with the better color gamut. Review the specs and look for the percentage of the Adobe RGB color space. It should approach 100%. sRGB should always BE 100%.
Some general pointers on monitors:
> Avoid gaming monitors for photo editing. They are too bright and too contrasty!
> Color gamut is more important than resolution, once you get to Full HD 1920x1080 or better.
> Most monitors come out of the box set for *office* use, meaning the brightness is WAY too high for photo editing. If you do not calibrate them properly with a kit of hardware and software, your prints will not come close to matching your monitor. When calibrating with a colorimeter or spectrophotometer, start with these aims, if your software will let you:
Brightness 85 to 120 candelas per square meter (cd/m^2) (Photo labs use 105, typically.)
Black Point 0.5 cd/m^2
Gamma 2.2 (Mac or PC!)
Color Temperature 5800K or the software's recommendation. (It will vary with ambient light brightness if your puck has a sensor and the software reads the room light level.)
With these settings, your monitor and prints SHOULD be a close match, provided color management is enabled properly in your software.
If you print from software like Photoshop, let EITHER the software OR the driver manage color, but not both. Double profiling ruins your color.
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Thanks for your feedback. Interesting about your comment on brightness. The SpyderLite5Elite calibration I’m using on my current monitor is telling me to get the brightness to 180 cd/m2, and I can only get it to 143, so it’s giving me a warning and preventing me from moving forward with the calibration. Datacolor SpyderLite tech support was telling me my monitor was too old!
You’re saying I should use 85-120 cd/m2. I’ll try that.
I just bought the U2718Q. What an improvement! I bought it to go along with the new 4k windows 10 computer I put together. So nice. It also works very well with the std HD work computer I plug into it.
Fredrick wrote:
Hello. I have an old 23" Monitor that I can't even calibrate with SpyderLite5Elite. So I'm looking to buy a 27" monitor, and was hoping someone with experience with Dell monitors, and I guess monitors in general, could help. It's been many years since I've bought a monitor.
The two monitors I'm looking at are the Dell UltraSharp 27 4K Monitor: U2718Q, and the Dell UltraSharp 27 Monitor with Premier Color - UP2716D. They're both $399. Just don't know which one would be better for post processing images? The U2718Q has a native resolution of 4K 3840 x 2160 at 60 Hz, and the UP2716D has a native resolution of QHD 2560 x 1440 at 60 Hz. Should I be focusing on one with the higher resolution? I just don't know what's more important, etc.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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I have a HP E190i 19in monitor. It is a 5 to 4 ratio. It is HD 1024 x 1080. Print is very readable at that resolution. Color is outstanding. A lot of real state for a 19in. Has VGA DVI and DisplayPort hook-ups. I plan on getting another one so I can run 2.
I think you can`t go wrong on either Dell. Good brand!
Fredrick wrote:
Thanks for your feedback. Interesting about your comment on brightness. The SpyderLite5Elite calibration I’m using on my current monitor is telling me to get the brightness to 180 cd/m2, and I can only get it to 143, so it’s giving me a warning and preventing me from moving forward with the calibration. Datacolor SpyderLite tech support was telling me my monitor was too old!
You’re saying I should use 85-120 cd/m2. I’ll try that.
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Yeah, the ambient light sensor in my Spyder5Pro is telling me to use 180 at 6500. If I do that, my prints come out too dark and too red.
What it amounts to is that your environment for photo editing should be dim. It should be gray. Your computer desktop should be gray. Room lighting should be very diffused — a 5000K 60W equivalent LED bulb bounced off the ceiling in a far corner behind your monitor is about right.
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
assman wrote:
I just bought the U2718Q. What an improvement! I bought it to go along with the new 4k windows 10 computer I put together. So nice. It also works very well with the std HD work computer I plug into it.
Thanks. How is it for PP?
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