How could I have made this less grainy?
Aug 22, 2012 13:39:53 #
I took this in a very dark auditorium.
I am happy that i got the shot, but the quality is not very good.
Even if I could have used a flash, I was probably too far away.
I used a Canon 7D. f/5.6, iso2000, 1/160, fl 225mm.
Photo attached is untouched.
I am happy that i got the shot, but the quality is not very good.
Even if I could have used a flash, I was probably too far away.
I used a Canon 7D. f/5.6, iso2000, 1/160, fl 225mm.
Photo attached is untouched.
Aug 22, 2012 15:26:09 #
Also, when I lowered the iso, it was too dark. And 5.6 was as wide as I could get on my lens. Is this the best I can hope for?
Aug 22, 2012 17:13:41 #
Reinr
Loc: Staffordshire. UK
I'm not an expert at Photoshop and the thumbnail is rather small. However, I've done a bit of work and I guess there are those that could do a heck of a lot better.
All I've done is shadows/highlight and noise reduction in CS6.
All I've done is shadows/highlight and noise reduction in CS6.
Aug 22, 2012 18:12:45 #
Adobe or other photo editor is all you can do... You need a fast lens for indoor poor lighting (f2.8 or larger aperture).
You could have increased the ISO to 3200+ to brighten it up a little but I think post processing will give you less noise than higher ISO.
You have the 7D so now the hard part... buying the glass to go with it. If you are going to take many pictures like this, it is worth the investment. (look at primes for less expensive alternatives to L-lenses)
You could have increased the ISO to 3200+ to brighten it up a little but I think post processing will give you less noise than higher ISO.
You have the 7D so now the hard part... buying the glass to go with it. If you are going to take many pictures like this, it is worth the investment. (look at primes for less expensive alternatives to L-lenses)
Aug 22, 2012 21:13:56 #
Bill, thank you for your response. My L lens, 2.8, 28-70 just did not reach far enough. Yes, the question is which lens is next. ???
Just wanted to know if i did all i can with what i had to work with.
Just wanted to know if i did all i can with what i had to work with.
Aug 23, 2012 06:18:04 #
There are all sorts of things you could do. Following are two examples.
First I took the picture to Lightroom 4 to increase the exposure and lighten the shadows. The result showed that the picture was out of focus, so I took that picture to Photoshop and applied an unsharp mask.
In the second example, I took my Lightroom/Photoshop picture to CorelDraw and made a painting out of it.
All of this took me about three minutes. In fact, it took longer to do this post than it did to get the two altered pictures.
First I took the picture to Lightroom 4 to increase the exposure and lighten the shadows. The result showed that the picture was out of focus, so I took that picture to Photoshop and applied an unsharp mask.
In the second example, I took my Lightroom/Photoshop picture to CorelDraw and made a painting out of it.
All of this took me about three minutes. In fact, it took longer to do this post than it did to get the two altered pictures.
Aug 23, 2012 06:20:58 #
Even tho its a thumbnail the noise is not too bad - use the Shadows/Highlights tool.
Also, please don't be too hard on yourself, bear in mind that that not every shot can be clinically perfect and even top photographers accept that some degree of noise/grain is inevitable in some shots - e.g. a grainy look can be accepted as 'good' in dark situations such as with stage lighting for musicians/bands, dancers etc :)
Also, please don't be too hard on yourself, bear in mind that that not every shot can be clinically perfect and even top photographers accept that some degree of noise/grain is inevitable in some shots - e.g. a grainy look can be accepted as 'good' in dark situations such as with stage lighting for musicians/bands, dancers etc :)
Aug 23, 2012 07:47:36 #
Were u far away, to make matters worse, you zoomed
the lens and hand held?
Get as close as you can and use a tripod, u also can shoot
at a slower speed to lighten it up alittle more.
Faster lens would be the best.
the lens and hand held?
Get as close as you can and use a tripod, u also can shoot
at a slower speed to lighten it up alittle more.
Faster lens would be the best.
Aug 23, 2012 08:09:45 #
photoready wrote:
I doubt it, for a pop-up flash maybe, but this is why some ppl spend a lot of money to buy high power flash units. e.g. although not the largest, my Metz 44 cost ~ $250, but i consider it money very well spent :mrgreen:... Even if I could have used a flash, I was probably too far away...
Aug 23, 2012 09:28:49 #
Considering your equipment, sometimes you cannot do better. An ISO of 2000 gives a lot of grain. As it is, the image is a bit dark. Lightening the image will bring up more noise.
I don't know the maximum f stop and I do not know if you have image stabilization. Opening wider would have given less depth of field, but that would not have been a big concern in this situation. With IS you cold have shot slower and again improved the light.
The biggest consideration is the importance of the image. If it is significant, you succeeded.
I don't know the maximum f stop and I do not know if you have image stabilization. Opening wider would have given less depth of field, but that would not have been a big concern in this situation. With IS you cold have shot slower and again improved the light.
The biggest consideration is the importance of the image. If it is significant, you succeeded.
Aug 23, 2012 10:31:15 #
johnske wrote:
photoready wrote:
I doubt it, for a pop-up flash maybe, but this is why some ppl spend a lot of money to buy high power flash units. e.g. although not the largest, my Metz 44 cost ~ $250, but i consider it money very well spent :mrgreen:... Even if I could have used a flash, I was probably too far away...
Do you think a 430EX would have reached the subject at 225mm?
Aug 23, 2012 10:39:27 #
lightchime wrote:
Considering your equipment, sometimes you cannot d... (show quote)
Thank you! I guess I succeeded then.
Aug 23, 2012 10:42:43 #
Aug 23, 2012 10:49:33 #
Looks like we all had the same idea - a quick run thru PP in CS4 -brightness/contrast saves lots of photos one would have lost in film.-I love digital editing programs.
Harvey
Harvey
Aug 23, 2012 11:30:58 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
Make like you own the place. That is what news photographers do. They walk up and shoot and if a flash is needed they use one. I have even walked onto the stage. No one ever seems to challenge someone at these kinds of events. They assume you are supposed to be where you are and taking a photo that you were told to take.
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