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May 19, 2019 15:32:29   #
ecurb1105
 
Tino wrote:
My question for everyone on here is this. Out of all the shots you take what is the percentage that you would consider displaying on a wall in your home for anyone to see? Not that I take a lot of pictures but out of what I have taken, I find very few that would be worthy of displaying. My girlfriend thinks a number of my shots are beautiful but I disagree. Then again, I am a very harsh critic of my photography and can always find something wrong.


When I shot professionally in the 1970s, large format 8x10 architecture, every shot had to be a keeper, so every one was a masterpiece. But we shot six to ten pictures a day at best.

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May 19, 2019 15:33:18   #
fstoprookie Loc: Central Valley of California
 
I've been shooting for about 12 years now and I have around 5% keepers and only have 6 wall hangers in our house. As I move along shooting sports and landscapes, I find my older pictures fall from favor and are replaced by more resent shots (some of the pictures I look at and say "What was I thinking when I shot that"). Some because I am getting better, and others because they have special meaning. The library is constantly getting bigger and I am trying to keep the size manageable. Haven't had much luck at that. Good luck to you!

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May 19, 2019 15:35:33   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
About 80%, sometimes higher. Since I've started shooting medium format film three years ago, I've learned to pay more attention to detail before pressing the shutter button, regardless if I'm using a film or digital camera. I rarely ever shoot in burst mode.

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May 19, 2019 15:50:05   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
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100%, always.

If you find that odd, then your definition
of "all the shots you take" may be kinda
warped, or huuuugely impractical.

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I dunno, “all the shots you take” seems pretty straightforward. If you think 100% are keepers then your definition may be kinda warped.

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May 19, 2019 15:53:39   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
duane klipping wrote:
If your keeper rates are low then you are not spending enough time with composition. Work the scene plan the shot then take the image. Too many point and shoot hobbyists never improve this rate because of this.


Not all subjects sit still.

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May 19, 2019 16:05:26   #
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May 19, 2019 16:10:40   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I dunno, “all the shots you take” seems pretty straightforward. If you think 100% are keepers then your definition may be kinda warped.


100% keepers is not really that far-fetched. It's just a matter of analyzing and learning from your mistakes and taking steps to not repeat them. Of course capturing fast-paced action it isn't always possible to nail every shot, but if all you do is photographing landscapes, still life, etc., then getting it right 100% of the time is obtainable.

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May 19, 2019 16:13:09   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
As I got thinking about the question, I confused my self. I expect 90+% is good, but, Keepers and/or "For Sale" as CHD CANON said I may end up with 1%. This just scared me.

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May 19, 2019 16:14:10   #
User ID
 
Gene51 wrote:


This thread seems to be divided between those who regard themselves as Masters of Photography and can do no wrong with their cameras, and the rest of us mortals that have standards and are quite self critical, but even more importantly, understand that there is no such thing as photograhic perfection and are always seeking to improve - just like yourself.
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I agree with what you say, yet I do
maintain a 100% success rate. You
stated:
" ..... there is no such thing as
photograhic perfection ..... "


.... and I do agree ! But in any field
of endeavor perfection can never be
the standard for success, unless we
choose to believe that there is just
simply no such thing as success at
all ! So I claim a 100% success rate
but never meant to claim perfection.

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May 19, 2019 16:17:19   #
philo Loc: philo, ca
 
One of the beauty of digital is that you can keep as many or as few as you wants. Heck it doesn't cost you anything and you can just let them stay in your external hard drive. Who know you may want to go back to that one moment it time and reremember it all over again or send it to a friend as a reminder of your time together. I don't know how many of us do what we do to make a living at this craft; we do it because we can. Heck I can't paint or dance.

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May 19, 2019 16:20:36   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
User ID wrote:
I agree with what you say, yet I do
maintain a 100% success rate. You
stated:
" ..... there is no such thing as
photograhic perfection ..... "


.... and I do agree ! But in any field
of endeavor perfection can never be
the standard for success, unless we
choose to believe that there is just
simply no such thing as success at
all ! So I claim a 100% success rate
but never meant to claim perfection.

.


Based on the original question, "Out of all the shots you take what is the percentage that you would consider displaying on a wall in your home for anyone to see?", would you claim 100 percent success?

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May 19, 2019 16:24:42   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Let's just leave the math to the professors ...

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May 19, 2019 16:33:57   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
rook2c4 wrote:
100% keepers is not really that far-fetched. It's just a matter of analyzing and learning from your mistakes and taking steps to not repeat them. Of course capturing fast-paced action it isn't always possible to nail every shot, but if all you do is photographing landscapes, still life, etc., then getting it right 100% of the time is obtainable.


I would suggest that photography is about much, much more than "getting it right." There is no such thing as one and only one "right" to "get."

The assumption you make here that people who toss a lot of images are making mistakes is false, I think. Those who keep everything often have much lower standards. Most of what I toss are not what could be called "mistakes."

Mike

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May 19, 2019 16:41:55   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
User ID wrote:
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100%, always.

If you find that odd, then your definition
of "all the shots you take" may be kinda
warped, or huuuugely impractical.

Didn't need any math to answer given
a perfect success rate.

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"...kinda warped and huuuugely impractical." Give me a break. Difficult to fathom how a simple question or opinion from the OP can turn into this kind of argument. Pointless and a waste of our time. If anyone wants to compute such a ratio, why not? And if some people think it makes no sense, no one is forcing them to do it. Unfortunately this foolish debate is an example of the way it goes here too often. Everyone's an expert.

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May 19, 2019 16:48:43   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
duane klipping wrote:
If your keeper rates are low then you are not spending enough time with composition. Work the scene plan the shot then take the image. Too many point and shoot hobbyists never improve this rate because of this.


In my observation, many point and shoot hobbyists keep everything while the most talented photographers do not.

Many people photograph moving subjects - wild life photographers, sports photographer, etc. Even wedding and event photographers and concert photographers have limited options for composing an image, as do photojournalists.

Working the scene, planning the shot does not mean that there is one and only one approach to any scene and that one would therefore be taking only one shot if they only knew what they were doing, as you suggest. Even in the studio, where one can control all of the variables, one still might have several ideas for how to light the subject and frame the scene. Again, there is no such thing as one and only one way to "get it right."

Then we have people doing focus bracketing. That requires a lot of working the scene, planning and composing, and a lot of skill. Yet many images will be discarded once they are incorporated into the final image. Focus bracketing in the field could mean movement of the subject in just one of 30-50 frames. That means 30-50 images will be discarded and no "keepers."

I think this debate divides people into two camps, as is the case with so many debates about photography - those who see photography as a mechanistic exercise of technical skill and proper equipment, and those who see photography as an art form.

I think that your generalization - that if people's keeper rates are low then they are not spending enough time with composition - applies to very, very few people.

Mike

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