Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley

Or Fuji.

Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley

It's been proven that younger people pick up faster on newer technology than older people.

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

They also don't have the investment in gear and knowledge that older people might have... But the world view of a 20 year old is much different than a 50 year old...

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

AT HOME, RE?

Now, let's see - most all Canons are made in Japan, whilst most all Nikon DX cameras, and Sony cameras, are all made in Thailand … so - what ON EARTH - does THAT particular remark - mean, RE?

Also, I'll warrant - most of your Pentax glass is made in Vietnam, and your new KP - was made in the Phils.

Am I right, RE … ? …. If so - you are - right AT HOME - with that lot - now - aren't you?

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Of course!!! … A 20-year-old thinks his 10-year-old brother - is the NEXT generation. Whilst a 50-year-old - sees the 20-year-old - as the NEXT generation. It's all in your perspective - you see, Todd?

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Canon users continue to use Canon.

Nikon users continue to use Nikon

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

And DUAL users - continue to use BOTH … so?

What's your point?

Bill_de Loc: US

Absolutely, but I think from what their reps are saying their ambitions go beyond that.

Time will tell how that works out.

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rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

My original point was that the main reason for the EOS-R camera line was it allows current Canon users to become MILC users while remaining Canon users .... but Canon is perfectly happy if they remain Canon users by purchasing EF-mount cameras.

Likewise, the main reason for the Z-mount camera line was it allows current Nikon users to become MILC users while remaining Nikon users ... but Nikon is perfectly happy if they remain Nikon users by purchasing F-mount cameras.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

But, both the R line, and the Z line, require adapters, in order to use currently-owned lenses, RE …

So, it's a trade-off, of some sort - to make the transition from FF DSLRs to FF MILCs. For those, who can afford it, and for those, who already HAVE a significant investment in glass of one sort or the other - it makes perfect sense - IF - you believe - you are going to wind up with a better product from a MILC, but - many of us - w/o the money available, for that kind of step, are kinda wary. I can understand it, too. No matter HOW GOOD MILCs are - compared to DSLRs … don't forget - the SLR has been with us for 70 years now, of which - the last 25 or so - has also featured the DSLR - which - within a decade or so - started to make miniature film cameras - obsolete. But, those who jumped on the EOS wagon, at its inception - are now, way ahead of the opposition, as THEIR particular transition - was fairly easy to make.
But, no matter HOW GOOD MILCs are - with their EVFs and Logs and what have you, it will still take quite some time - for the average DSLR user, to catch on. It may be some time - before the world will change.
Nikon users, were left in the dark for a little while. But, once they caught on, they became as dedicated (if not - MORE so) than Canon Users - some of whom - like you, RE - have jumped all over the place - finally - becoming a dedicated Pentax user. Nothing wrong with that - you're AT HOME - with that, too … see what I mean? … The only REAL folks AT HOME in America with THEIR cameras, are the ones using Argus and Kodak instruments, with a few Polaroid Users, thrown in … but, now, with Digital … oh, well …

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Yes, Nikon is in a much weaker position than Canon is. Because Nikon moved piecewise from an all mechanical mount to an all electronic mount, a Nikon user who is determined to go MILC will find that many old lenses {the ones with some mechanical linkage} will not adapt well no matter what MILC camera s/he gets, but Nikon hopes that being able to purchase from her/his current Nikon Dealer and keeping at least some familiar Nikon things {interface, documentation, etc} will make staying with Nikon a comfortable - or at least less jarring - experience.

Because of Canon's jump to a totally electronic mount thirty years ago, virtually all Canon lenses in use today will operate on an adapter just as they had on the user's previous Canon DSLR. Twelve years ago, when I went from a Canon EOS-Elan film camera to a Canon Digital Rebel, all the lenses I currently had were just as usable on the Rebel as they had been on the Elan. Because the sensor was smaller, they provided a different view, but the 18-55 typically kitted with new 'APS-C' cameras covered the "lost wide angle" {18-28mm} until I could decide what other lenses I might want to purchase, so Canon lost very few {if any} users during the transition from film to digital, and they are hoping the same process will happen on any transition from DSLR to MILC.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Because of some things which happened in my life (thefts etc.) I was not actually involved in photography in 1987, when Canon chose to drop the FD mount in favor of the EOS Mount - so, I was not aware of it, at the time … and I STILL had my head under water - so-to-speak, when the subsequent transition to digital was made about 8-10 years later. In fact, when I finally decided to get back into it - it was 2010, and my first exercise in digital was my Fuji Finepix HS-10 - a bridge with AAs to power it! … A year, later, bought my first DSLR - a Canon Rebel T3. A year after that, I bought my first 24MP DSLR - the Nikon D3200. My choices were made based on the fact a) my last capable Canon - the A1 (up to its theft) was the most advanced camera I'd ever owned … this thing was brilliant! … Never made a bad picture with it! Later, I got the Canon T70 … another fantastic instrument - this thing did everything but wash the dishes!

b) my first REAL SLR was a Nikon F … which I followed, very soon after, with a Nikon F2 … this was back in 1971-1972. I didn't get into Canons until some time later. But, back then - I worked about 40% with my Nikons … the rest of the time - I worked with an RB67. Later, after the Nikons and RB67 were long gone … their replacements were the Canon A1, and a Mamiya Universal, and then the Pentax 6x7 - I still have, today. So, it was natural for me, when I wanted to get back into photography - to, first - go, the Canon route, and then - to add a Nikon DSLR. Fast Forward another ten years, and now I have four more Nikons, two more Canons, three Sony SLTs and a Pentax K-50 - all digital, and all, more-or-less - current!

kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA

Panasonic and Olympus have the 2x digital teleconverter. And they still maintain their pixels. So the 12-35mm lens becomes a 48-140mm lens.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

You've got a 4x factor going for you, there. 12-35 with a 2x factor, is 24-70. Where's the other 2x come in?

Oh, I get it! … 2x converter. How many of the MFT lenses, does that 2x converter, work on, Ken?

kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA

All of them. It's in the camera. I used my 100-300 at 2x which took it out to 1200mm.
Now, it only does this in jpeg, not raw. I have a Oly m10 ll.