So, What's Up With Canon?
May 10, 2019 08:22:00 #
As for having a bad experience with any retailer or manufacturer, there are some avenues you should avail yourself of. Being banned by a manufacturer's customers forum is extreme and definitely a litigious experience. If your complaints are valid and your comments are eloquent, (Im sure they are) they should be wise to respond quickly and appropriately. After you have done documenting your issues, sell or donate any used equipment. Then you have an open opportunity to state your experiences on the Ugly Hedge Hog Forum. (Please follow the Forum's rules). I as a hobbyist would like to hear your bad experiences but in a private e-mail. That way we can converse as two photographers should. It is not meant to trash anyone or any company. Just an opportunity for two friends to share a common hobby and learn from our experiences. I must admit, I am surprised that a big manufacturer is not willing to honor their warranties.
Happy Shooting!
Happy Shooting!
May 10, 2019 08:30:02 #
Cameras are specialized, luxury products where the lower-end of the market has mostly been replaced by high-end phones. We may not recognize the situation here inside the isolated biosphere of UHH, but any trip into the wider world shows no cameras, no camera stores in a technology landscape vastly different than the small valley that shelters our remnant population. The latest Canon Rumor is the next (final?) 90D / 7D generation DSLR will be 30MP+. So, the trend I identified above between the 2001 1D and the 2019 800D will continue with high(er) end technology flowing down into more entry-level ish bodies. But, for those with only $1000 to spend, the more likely purchase is the high-end phone that is phone, camera, PDA, not the single-function interchangeable-lens camera.
May 10, 2019 08:32:22 #
patrick M wrote:
The cost keeps climbing services are less and the... (show quote)
Oh stop! Canon recently introduced the EOS R which is very much the equal of the 5DIV and in some notable ways superior. For $800 less. The same can be said about the EOS RP vs the 6DII. For $300 less. The R and RP both come with adapters to allow the use of any and all EF mount lenses. No need to buy pricey RF lenses or even the EF L glass. Canon has a very wide range of very good, less expensive lenses in their line-up. Exactly how does any of that kill the golden goose? The RF lenses, BTW, are by all accounts exceptional and well worth the price to many people.
Tutorials? Guess you haven't looked at Canon's website lately. It has a wide variety of learning material available. Some free, some for a fee.
When you factor in inflation you are spending considerably less in today's money for a camera then you would have years ago. For far superior equipment besides.
Oh, in case you missed it, the lens hood that the OP mentioned IS included with the EF 85mm f/1.2 L lens.
May 10, 2019 08:39:20 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
I have never really been on the same threads as him so I don't know him or how he generally presents himself, but I did not think that he should have popped off like that, I doubt he has any better gear than I have and he rarely posts images. I may be a jerk in the Attic (political) but I generally try to be on my best behavior out in the photography side of the forums.
As a HOBBYIST, I really don't think gear should be an issue. IMHO, the nut behind the camera is who really matters. My photographs are for me and then my friends. They are not created to win awards! So better gear is not the issue. As for being disrespectful, I believe that should end. Wait! Aren't the Forum's rules clear here? But in general, we all should be civil and at least cordial. I have been on the Forum for a short time. People have given me their opinion in the past. If it seems wise, I follow. If not, I still listen and ignore the rant. I have been a person who likes to hear from others and learn from their experiences. When I'm perfect, I'll let you know. Right now, I'm still learning.
Happy Shooting!
May 10, 2019 08:41:28 #
May 10, 2019 08:48:59 #
danbir1
Loc: North Potomac, MD
Blurryeyed wrote:
Canon just announced the upcoming release of an 85mm f/1.2 RF lens for their Mirrorless system. The lens costs a whopping $2700 and the recommended accessory is a $35 lens hood. Really? I wonder if they will soon stop sending lens hoods with their L series lenses, the hoods for their big whites start at $500 which there can be no justification for.
This is from the B&H site
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1477265-REG/canon_rf_85mm_f_1_2l_usm.html
In the Box
Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM Lens
E-82 II 82mm Lens Cap
Lens Dust Cap RF
ET-89 Lens Hood
LP1424 Lens Case for Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM Telephoto Lens
You should be more careful before you post a misleading info
And yes, it is WAY too expensive!!
May 10, 2019 08:51:05 #
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May 11, 2019 06:58:48 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Blurryeyed wrote:
Canon just announced the upcoming release of an 85mm f/1.2 RF lens for their Mirrorless system. The lens costs a whopping $2700 and the recommended accessory is a $35 lens hood. Really? I wonder if they will soon stop sending lens hoods with their L series lenses, the hoods for their big whites start at $500 which there can be no justification for.
Nikon appears to be doing the same thing on some of their lenses for the new Z line of camera's. It will not sway me one way are the other. If I need the lens, I need the lens, I will not base it on the fact that I must pay extra for a lens hood. In other words, it makes no difference to me.
May 11, 2019 07:47:59 #
Price over at CPW has now dropped to $2399 (on sale) for the RF 85 1.2L from an authorized dealer. Maybe Canon didn't want to feel responsible for the ambulance ride when customers saw the original MAP price :)
Still a tough sell when you can buy the EF 85 1.4L IS for $1459 that will fit a DSLR and Canon's mirrorless with the adapter. The sample for the RF 85 1.2L does look very impressive claiming to be the sharpest of the 85's they have ever made.
Still a tough sell when you can buy the EF 85 1.4L IS for $1459 that will fit a DSLR and Canon's mirrorless with the adapter. The sample for the RF 85 1.2L does look very impressive claiming to be the sharpest of the 85's they have ever made.
May 11, 2019 09:55:55 #
danbir1 wrote:
This is from the B&H site
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1477265-REG/canon_rf_85mm_f_1_2l_usm.html
In the Box
Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM Lens
E-82 II 82mm Lens Cap
Lens Dust Cap RF
ET-89 Lens Hood
LP1424 Lens Case for Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM Telephoto Lens
You should be more careful before you post a misleading info
And yes, it is WAY too expensive!!
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1477265-REG/canon_rf_85mm_f_1_2l_usm.html
In the Box
Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM Lens
E-82 II 82mm Lens Cap
Lens Dust Cap RF
ET-89 Lens Hood
LP1424 Lens Case for Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM Telephoto Lens
You should be more careful before you post a misleading info
And yes, it is WAY too expensive!!
I have already in this thread stated several times that I was mistaken, this is the ad that lead me to believe that the hood was an added accessory...
May 11, 2019 10:58:21 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
I have already in this thread stated several times that I was mistaken, this is the ad that lead me to believe that the hood was an added accessory...
Keep in mind that many people reply after reading only the original post and none of the replies. We have probably all done it at one time or another. I know I have.
May 11, 2019 11:08:03 #
LFingar wrote:
Keep in mind that many people reply after reading only the original post and none of the replies. We have probably all done it at one time or another. I know I have.
I know, I am still smarting for posting such an erroneous thread...
May 11, 2019 13:09:25 #
I accept your apology. It's okay to make a mistake. Oh wait! Let's not call it a mistake. Let's call it a failure. From failures we learn. As for a glass, if I really want it, I try before I buy. I will rent it. My wife won't let me buy something that exhorbitant. I'll ask others if they have had experience too. That is why we have forums like this one.
May 11, 2019 14:49:08 #
Scruples wrote:
I accept your apology. It's okay to make a mistake. Oh wait! Let's not call it a mistake. Let's call it a failure. From failures we learn. As for a glass, if I really want it, I try before I buy. I will rent it. My wife won't let me buy something that exhorbitant. I'll ask others if they have had experience too. That is why we have forums like this one.
LOL.... I just buy it and down the road I'll sell it and consider the difference in price as the price I paid for a long term rental..... I think that I will be selling my 500/4 soon and expect to lose $1000 from what I paid for it... not a bad price to pay for a 3 to 4 year rental.
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