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May 3, 2019 08:28:31   #
wds0410 Loc: Nunya
 
willaim wrote:
Just wondering if any of the UHH'ers, and I'm sure there are, have the 6D MarkII and how do they like it? I have the 80D which is probably a step below the 6D and am thinking about a full frame sensor camera. Not sure about the EOS R,yet, but since I have lenses and equipment for the EOS series, I'll stay with that and not another system. Of cause I'll check out the camera before I decide, but is it worth it? Appreciate any thoughts, Yea or Ney.


I've been using the 6DM2 for over a year now and I'm very happy with it. 95% of what I shoot is landscapes and for that genre it performs admirably. One thing I recommend is not to go cheap on the glass. I noticed a big difference in results when I started using L series lenses.

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May 3, 2019 08:31:41   #
Chuckwal Loc: Boynton Beach Florida
 
Will
Have the 6D and 6D ll love the ll and backup 6D
every aspect of the camera is fantastic sell my 6d
for 500.00 take a look at my posts great camera

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May 3, 2019 08:46:31   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
crazydaddio wrote:
Sorry, what I meant was I would have bought the R and used my EF lenses and then would have started acquiring RF mount lenses IF it had the FPS issue when AF Continuous focus is on fixed plus had 2 slots.

When I said Continous AF, i meant servo AF. (Ie only would focus when you half-pressed or BBFd). My understanding is that you can get high FPS as long as the camera is not asked to refocus between frames. In that case it can drop down to 3FPS or worse ... not useable to shoot sports. (Ok for car racing as you can pre-focus and then fire off a short burst when the car arrives at the spot on the course.)

If I am wrong about the FPS when servo is on, then I would reconsider buying the R but I would rather save my money and wait for the pro-level version which I am hoping will be out in 2020. If I dont start hearing some rumours soon, I may just jump ship and go to Sony which is way ahead in the eyeAutofocus/FPS/4K world.
For pure stills, Canon rocks with their new RF mount lenses. (Even in weddings, you still need servoAF with lowlight AF for the bride walking down the aisle in candle lighting . My 5DMiv is still trusted in this department :-)
Sorry, what I meant was I would have bought the R ... (show quote)


Out of curiosity I just stepped outside and shot a couple of high speed bursts using Servo. Held the shutter button down while I panned across trees and rocks at different distances. The camera was having to constantly refocus, which it did just fine, and there was no change in frame rate. There have been 2 firmware updates since the R was introduced. An issue with Servo and silent shooting was addressed, as I recall. There could have been more but without looking them up I can't say.
Last I knew Canon had hinted at a 2019 release of a high resolution pro oriented model and then pushed the date back to 2020. Something like 60 mp. I'm waiting to see what it will be. Just might buy it and sell my 5DIV.

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May 3, 2019 09:09:40   #
miked46 Loc: Winter Springs, Florida
 
I have the 80D also, and the mirrorless M50. I have been looking at the 6D MK 2, but now I will upgrade to the newer EOS RP , you can use all of the current EF LENS,as it comes with the adapter.

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May 3, 2019 10:10:17   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
I love mine but I must confess that I haven't taken enough time to use or test it out on all of it's new extras. It was my first Full Frame Camera and I did buy " L "Glass for it and that's the most important upgrade for me , personally. It has great Low Light Capabillities....even more so than the Sony A7 & Nikon D750 that I also considered at the time of purchase.

It will do just about any type of video but I seldom do that. I like the Touch screen and it has WiFi & GPS as well but I tend to tether my rig when doing those types of shooting so I invested in a Heavier Tripod & Gimbal arrangement to handle studio shoots all dolly-mounted for smooth & quiet operations.

I think it's a great Entry Level FF Camera so far and hope it continues to not disappoint me.

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May 3, 2019 10:22:24   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
LFingar wrote:
What are your reservations about the EOS R? Actually, the EOS RP is closer to the 6DII then the EOS R. Essentially the same sensor at a very reasonable price, although, the 6DII is currently priced the same as the EOS RP. Until the sale ends, anyway. I love my 5DIV and hated the idea of the market moving towards mirrorless. Until Canon came out with their full frame EOS R that is. I took the plunge a few months ago and bought the EOS R and the RF 24-105 f/4 L. I have barely touched the 5DIV since then. In fact, I've thought about selling it rather then letting it just sit on the shelf and collect dust. I have yet to find anything of consequence that the 5DIV can do that the EOS R can't do as well or often better. I really think you would find the comparison between the 6DII and the EOS RP to be about the same. The auto focus is the big thing for me. It is spot on virtually every time. The 5DIV does a good job in auto focus but the R is near perfect. I recently bought a 2x extender to use with my 100-400 L II. That combo on the 5DIV would leave me with no auto focus. On the R I have full auto focus capability. The new RF lenses for the R and RP seem to be exceptional, based on my experience with the RF 24-105, plus, with the included adapter I can use any EF lens as well as EF-s lenses if I had any. All of my EF lenses work as well or better on the R.
So, you might want to take a closer look at the RP or the R , if you have the budget. I very much doubt that you would be disappointed in either.
What are your reservations about the EOS R? Actual... (show quote)


I agree....if the EOS RP is the same price as the 6DMKII....get the RP and the new glass for it and I think some retailers are offering the Adapter free with the purchase and that lets you use all of the Canon glass with this new rig. Google the Ken Rockwell write-up about it and you'll see why we are so excited about this version of mirrorless camera. I was unaware of the price comparison when I purchased my 6DMKII and I bought it in London instead of the USA so I lost the USA Warranty s a result.That can cost me later if I suffer any repairs with it down the road so be careful when you buy any camera. Good Luck

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May 3, 2019 11:06:36   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Blair Shaw Jr wrote:
I agree....if the EOS RP is the same price as the 6DMKII....get the RP and the new glass for it and I think some retailers are offering the Adapter free with the purchase and that lets you use all of the Canon glass with this new rig. Google the Ken Rockwell write-up about it and you'll see why we are so excited about this version of mirrorless camera. I was unaware of the price comparison when I purchased my 6DMKII and I bought it in London instead of the USA so I lost the USA Warranty s a result.That can cost me later if I suffer any repairs with it down the road so be careful when you buy any camera. Good Luck
I agree....if the EOS RP is the same price as the ... (show quote)


Actually, the RP is considerably less expensive then the 6DII, except that right now the 6DII and a number of other Canons are on sale.
Even though you bought yours in London Canon will still repair it for the going rate. They just won't honor the warranty. An exception would be if you bought yours with an international warranty I believe.
The basic adapter is offered by Canon with every R and RP. Any dealer who doesn't include it is a dealer I would stay away from.

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May 3, 2019 11:31:26   #
AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
I had 2 different 6D bodies and loved them. Here is club shoot with one of them at very high ISO in famous Viper Room on Sunset in Hollywood. I have had the 6DII for about one year and love it also as it takes consistently good images with great skin tones as I like to shoot people. However, I plan to invest shortly in the RP with the new 35/1.8 RF lens, for street shooter kit but will keep my 6DII. The RP comes with the adapter to use all EF and EF-S lenses. The second shot is with the 6DII, and old 28-135 EF lens, my granddaughter. I recognize it is off center but I wanted to keep her hair and left hand in the image. Good shooting.





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May 3, 2019 11:39:55   #
AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
I plan to get the RP with the 35/1.8 R lens in near future. I did not like the layout of the R with that bar but the RP fits my needs. And keep the 6DII. All of my EF lenses, and EF-S if I had any, will work on RP with free adapter that is provided.

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May 3, 2019 11:45:04   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
AntonioReyna wrote:
I plan to get the RP with the 35/1.8 R lens in near future. I did not like the layout of the R with that bar but the RP fits my needs. And keep the 6DII. All of my EF lenses, and EF-S if I had any, will work on RP with free adapter that is provided.


I didn't care for the bar initially, but the more I use it the more I like it and the overall layout I have found quite easy to adapt to. Still, I wouldn't miss the bar if it wasn't there.

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May 3, 2019 12:42:29   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
willaim wrote:
Just wondering if any of the UHH'ers, and I'm sure there are, have the 6D MarkII and how do they like it? I have the 80D which is probably a step below the 6D and am thinking about a full frame sensor camera. Not sure about the EOS R,yet, but since I have lenses and equipment for the EOS series, I'll stay with that and not another system. Of cause I'll check out the camera before I decide, but is it worth it? Appreciate any thoughts, Yea or Ney.


I love mine. When I "upgraded" from the 6D, I considered the 6D2 and the 5D4. Cost was not an issue at the time. I fell in love immediately with the articulated touch screen which allowed me to do more of the type of things I like, especially macro and closeups of flowers, fungi and mushrooms. I am not a professional so issues such as not having two card slots were not important to me. The articulated touch screen trumped any technical advantages the 5D4 may have. No regrets whatsoever.

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May 3, 2019 14:03:18   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
willaim wrote:
Just wondering if any of the UHH'ers, and I'm sure there are, have the 6D MarkII and how do they like it? I have the 80D which is probably a step below the 6D and am thinking about a full frame sensor camera. Not sure about the EOS R,yet, but since I have lenses and equipment for the EOS series, I'll stay with that and not another system. Of cause I'll check out the camera before I decide, but is it worth it? Appreciate any thoughts, Yea or Ney.


In some respects, 6DII would be a "step up" from 80D. But in other ways it would be a "step down".

6D Mark II is essentially an "entry level" full frame camera.

Your 80D is a "mid level" APS-C camera.

6D Mark II... top shutter speed 1/4000, flash sync 1/180.
80D... top shutter speed 1/8000, flash sync 1/250.

6D Mark II (2017)... 26MP full frame, Digic 7 processor, ISO 100-40000 (expands to 50 & 102400)
80D (2016)... 24MP APS-C, Digic 6 processor, ISO 100-16000 (expands to 25600)

6D Mark II... considerably higher usable ISO (according to DXO).
80D... wider dynamic range (according to DXO).

Both use essentially the same 45-point AF system. All points are "cross type", the AF can work as low as -3EV light levels, and up to 27 of the AF points are "f/8 capable". Some 6D Mark II users complain that the array of AF points is too centralized in the image area.

6D Mark II... 98% viewfinder, .71X magnification.
80D... 100% viewfinder, .95X magnification.

Both use a true pentaprism and both use essentially the same articulated, 1 million pixel, Touchscreen LCD monitor. Both have Canon's Dual Pixel AF in Live View.

6D Mark II.... 6.5 frames per second continuous shooting, 150 JPEG/21 RAW image buffer.
80D... 7 frames per second continuous shooting, 110 JPEG/25 RAW image buffer.

Both use SD memory (single slot).

Both use LP-E6/LP-E6N batteries. 6DII is rated to get 1200 shots per charge. 80D is rated to get 960 shots per charge. Note: CIPA standardized ratings. These utilize flash for half of shots, when camera has a built in flash.

80D has a wimpy built-in flash that's located in the worst possible place for redeye problems and is a heavy drain on the camera's battery. 6DII doesn't have a built-in flash. This differences is why the 6DII appears to get more shot per battery charge.

If you make big prints... say 16x24" or larger... you'll like the full frame camera. Or, if you do a lot of low light shooting and need high ISOs, the full frame camera would be a nice upgrade.

On the other hand, if you do a lot of work with telephoto lenses, the 80D can have a distinct advantage. The 80D can use both EF and smaller, lighter, sometimes less expensive EF-S lenses. The 6D Mark II requires full frame capable EF lenses, which tend to be bigger, heavier and more expensive. Even when EF lenses are used on both, the 80D can have an advantage. For example, I've often used a Canon EF 300mm f/4L IS USM lens on my APS-C cameras. That lens is easily hand held at around 3 lb. and costs roughly $1200. In order to "have the same reach and speed" with a full frame camera would require a 500mm f/4L IS USM lens.... which weighs close to 8 lb. and costs $9000. The latter lens would also likely require a good, sturdy tripod... adding cost and limiting mobility to some extent.

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May 3, 2019 14:24:30   #
rbest77701
 
MrBob wrote:
Depends on what your needs are.... 6D will do better in low light and mark II will do better at higher ISO. Are you a tripod guy or handheld guy ? Landscape or action ? Makes a big diff. I recently bought the 6D because I am a tripod, lower light, landscape kind of guy. What are your needs ?


I have had my 6D mkII for a little over a year now. Upgraded from T2i and have been really happy with it. I don't do too much wildlife or birds, so the frame rate is fine with me. I mostly got it for low light/high ISO ability and haven't been disappointed yet.

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May 3, 2019 15:25:07   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
amfoto1 wrote:
In some respects, 6DII would be a "step up" from 80D. But in other ways it would be a "step down".

6D Mark II is essentially an "entry level" full frame camera.

Your 80D is a "mid level" APS-C camera.

6D Mark II... top shutter speed 1/4000, flash sync 1/180.
80D... top shutter speed 1/8000, flash sync 1/250.

6D Mark II (2017)... 26MP full frame, Digic 7 processor, ISO 100-40000 (expands to 50 & 102400)
80D (2016)... 24MP APS-C, Digic 6 processor, ISO 100-16000 (expands to 25600)

6D Mark II... considerably higher usable ISO (according to DXO).
80D... wider dynamic range (according to DXO).

Both use essentially the same 45-point AF system. All points are "cross type", the AF can work as low as -3EV light levels, and up to 27 of the AF points are "f/8 capable". Some 6D Mark II users complain that the array of AF points is too centralized in the image area.

6D Mark II... 98% viewfinder, .71X magnification.
80D... 100% viewfinder, .95X magnification.

Both use a true pentaprism and both use essentially the same articulated, 1 million pixel, Touchscreen LCD monitor. Both have Canon's Dual Pixel AF in Live View.

6D Mark II.... 6.5 frames per second continuous shooting, 150 JPEG/21 RAW image buffer.
80D... 7 frames per second continuous shooting, 110 JPEG/25 RAW image buffer.

Both use SD memory (single slot).

Both use LP-E6/LP-E6N batteries. 6DII is rated to get 1200 shots per charge. 80D is rated to get 960 shots per charge. Note: CIPA standardized ratings. These utilize flash for half of shots, when camera has a built in flash.

80D has a wimpy built-in flash that's located in the worst possible place for redeye problems and is a heavy drain on the camera's battery. 6DII doesn't have a built-in flash. This differences is why the 6DII appears to get more shot per battery charge.

If you make big prints... say 16x24" or larger... you'll like the full frame camera. Or, if you do a lot of low light shooting and need high ISOs, the full frame camera would be a nice upgrade.

On the other hand, if you do a lot of work with telephoto lenses, the 80D can have a distinct advantage. The 80D can use both EF and smaller, lighter, sometimes less expensive EF-S lenses. The 6D Mark II requires full frame capable EF lenses, which tend to be bigger, heavier and more expensive. Even when EF lenses are used on both, the 80D can have an advantage. For example, I've often used a Canon EF 300mm f/4L IS USM lens on my APS-C cameras. That lens is easily hand held at around 3 lb. and costs roughly $1200. In order to "have the same reach and speed" with a full frame camera would require a 500mm f/4L IS USM lens.... which weighs close to 8 lb. and costs $9000. The latter lens would also likely require a good, sturdy tripod... adding cost and limiting mobility to some extent.
In some respects, 6DII would be a "step up&qu... (show quote)


This is a question, since I do not use Flash too often.
"6D Mark II... top shutter speed 1/4000, flash sync 1/180.
80D... top shutter speed 1/8000, flash sync 1/250."

Since the Strobe of the Flash stops movement, what is the difference between 1/180 and 1/250?
Thanks
George

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May 3, 2019 17:40:37   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
willaim wrote:
Just wondering if any of the UHH'ers, and I'm sure there are, have the 6D MarkII and how do they like it? I have the 80D which is probably a step below the 6D and am thinking about a full frame sensor camera. Not sure about the EOS R,yet, but since I have lenses and equipment for the EOS series, I'll stay with that and not another system. Of cause I'll check out the camera before I decide, but is it worth it? Appreciate any thoughts, Yea or Ney.


Remember the R and RP are 100% compatible with ALL your EF and EFs lenses. The 6D II will not use EFs lenses.
Also the control adapter adds RF mount enhancements to ALL your EF and EFs lenses and it is reported that speed of focus of your EF and EFs lenses is improved (That is a real feat) on the R and RP bodies.
I would not consider the 6DII if I were going FF in Canon at this point. The R and RP are considerable steps up.

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