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May 3, 2019 15:16:42   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
And I thought it was a lumberjack with his trusty ax...

DeanS wrote:
General comment on this topic. Some people like to stay current with changes/upgrades in technology. Some people like to retain a piece of gear (camera, car, garden rake, hammer, you name it) until it is dead in its tracks. There are also lots of folks who fall in between. Everyone has their own reason for going to something new/different. I don’t believe it wise/necessary for someone else to critique or pass judgement on another's action in this regard.

This story may illustrate my point: A journalist was doing a personal interest piece, noticed an old, worn-out carpenter doing his thing. The reporter took note of the old man’s hammer, a beat-up, worn out tool. Reporter inquired of the old man, “How long have you had that hammer, old timer?”

“I’ve had this thing forty-seven years.”

“Ever have any problems.?”

“Yeah, replaced the head twice and the handle three times, but this old hammer has lasted me so far, forty
-seven years!”
General comment on this topic. Some people like to... (show quote)

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May 3, 2019 15:19:35   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
And I thought it was a lumberjack with his trusty ax...


Lots of tools will fit this narratively, N.T.O.D.

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May 3, 2019 15:23:46   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
LFingar wrote:
It isn't a question of whether or not a poor photographer will do better with expensive gear, even though many people seem to think that is what it is all about. It's about whether or not good quality high performance equipment will allow a competent photographer to do a better job and the answer is, unquestionably, yes. It doesn't have to be the very top dollar equipment either. It just has to be equipment that the photographer can get the most out of. A good photographer can get good results from most any camera but having a more capable camera gives that same photographer more options in how and what they shoot. I defy anyone to take their cell phone or point-and-shoot out to shoot wildlife and then compare it to the work Regis does with his cameras. Sure, he could no doubt get some good results with cheaper cameras, but if you were to ask him I would bet he would have good reasons why he uses the equipment he does. Of everyone on here I consider him one of the best examples of an excellent photographer using excellent equipment to get shots that few others can. Lesser equipment just provides fewer opportunities to do that kind of work.
It isn't a question of whether or not a poor photo... (show quote)


I agree with you too. No question that good equipment in the hands of a capable photographer is better than inferior equipment in the same hands. But I also know some really good photographers that have inferior equipment to Regis', namely he has a 300mm f/5.6 Canon lens and a Canon 7D, now a 7D Mk II, and his bird pictures are every bit as good as Regis. But this guy does this ALL the time and is very talented. I too do bird photography with a 100-400, 500mm f/4, and a 300mm f/2.8. I couldn't get the images I get without that great equipment. But that woman that I spoke of earlier has done some birding too, I've been with her, and she is NOT good - even with her $20,000 of Canon equipment.

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May 3, 2019 15:26:23   #
jldodge
 
It's always interesting to hear from those who say that it's not the gear that's important. They all seem to have the most recent gear/technology AND they have worked with numerous previous generations of their current gear.

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May 3, 2019 15:31:23   #
BebuLamar
 
jldodge wrote:
It's always interesting to hear from those who say that it's not the gear that's important. They all seem to have the most recent gear/technology AND they have worked with numerous previous generations of their current gear.


Yup generally those are upgraders. I think the gear does matter but I don't upgrade. I just limit my photography to what I can with my gear.

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May 3, 2019 15:37:23   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
I’ve always taken “ITS THE PHOTOGRAPHER AND NOT THE CAMERA” to mean that the skill of the photographer, within the mechanical limits of the camera, matters more than the camera being used ... but of course expanding those mechanical limits certainly allows for better shots under certain situations.

I have and still do take great pictures with a NIKON F pentaprism VF and hand held meter ... I can take shots with a D7200 that I would have not been able to tasks with the F.

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May 3, 2019 16:02:10   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
I agree with you too. No question that good equipment in the hands of a capable photographer is better than inferior equipment in the same hands. But I also know some really good photographers that have inferior equipment to Regis', namely he has a 300mm f/5.6 Canon lens and a Canon 7D, now a 7D Mk II, and his bird pictures are every bit as good as Regis. But this guy does this ALL the time and is very talented. I too do bird photography with a 100-400, 500mm f/4, and a 300mm f/2.8. I couldn't get the images I get without that great equipment. But that woman that I spoke of earlier has done some birding too, I've been with her, and she is NOT good - even with her $20,000 of Canon equipment.
I agree with you too. No question that good equip... (show quote)

But let me ask you...does she enjoy what she is doing? Does she have a good time? Is she happy?

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May 3, 2019 16:07:19   #
PierreD
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Have any of you seen Tony's video about how important good gear is in photography? We keep getting responses here saying that the gear doesn't matter. It's the photographer that makes the picture. I've never believed that, and that's why I buy a new camera occasionally. Otherwise, I'd still be using my parents' old Kodak box camera.

The D750 is my main camera, and when I use something else, the results are not as good.


Do you happen to have the link to that video? Thanks.

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May 3, 2019 16:10:26   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
Talk about an unwinnable argument.

Joshua Bell is, arguably, the best violinist in the world today, and has been since he was 29 years old. He can make beautiful music on an old, beat up violin and if you appreciate his music, you would think it the best you ever heard. But there is a reason he plays a Stradivarius - he marries the best technique with the best sound.

You folks can argue about this until the cows come home but the fact is that the best photographer in the world can make gorgeous photos using the worst equipment. Likewise the worst photographer in the world can make lousy photographs using the latest, most expensive equipment available.

The most important take away here is that we all try to the best of our ability with the best gear we can afford and acquire. What comes out on the other end is the product of both together, not one or the other. If you're happy with it, you move on. If you're not happy with it, you either give up or work to improve. That improvement may involve better gear, better technique or a combination. Whatever, the two still have to work together to produce a result, be it good, bad or indifferent. As the old song says, "You can't have one without the other."

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May 3, 2019 16:34:58   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
When my daughter took first took Cello lessons her teacher played her student Cello and the sound was wonderful. I asked why would I need to buy a better cello down the road. Her answer was that the good sound was so much easier to get on a better instrument. Perhaps good pictures are much easier to get on better photo gear. - Dave

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May 3, 2019 16:36:14   #
BebuLamar
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
When my daughter took first took Cello lessons her teacher played her student Cello and the sound was wonderful. I asked why would I need to buy a better cello down the road. Her answer was that the good sound was so much easier to get on a better instrument. Perhaps good pictures are much easier to get on better photo gear. - Dave


Good tool makes your job easier.

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May 3, 2019 17:03:01   #
philo Loc: philo, ca
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Good tool makes your job easier.



amen

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May 3, 2019 17:41:29   #
Bill P
 
I have watched a very few of TN's videos, and have quit, as in each one I heard him make statements that were not at all true.

KR's reviews are decent, but his lists of the best equipment are a very moving target. I haven't look in a couple of months, is he still a Canon fanboy or has he returned to Nikon? He vacillates a lot.

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May 3, 2019 18:50:23   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
larryepage wrote:
I'm sure that rmalarz will reply for himself, but I will answer your question from my perspective.

I used a D200 for years. When I bought it, it was probably the best Nikon DSLR available other than the true pro models, and, in any case, it was the best that I could afford. I was very happy with it and used it for years, even after other, improved models were introduced. But for a good period of time, it retained its position in life. It served me well while I was doing photography pretty much in isolation. It captured the images that I was after. As I tried more things, though, and couldn't make some of them really work, the question arose about whether there might be something new that would do better. So I started shopping around a little. I was retired by that time, so it didn't seem to make sense to spend a ton of money. The result was trading a big box of old film equipment locally for a well-used D300 and nice D300s. Guess what...these cameras, although still not the latest, offered me quite a bit of new capability over the D200. Technology had advanced to the point that I could accomplish some things that weren't easily possible for me before. This further widened my range of interest so that over a few years I made some other equipment advances to gain some important (at least to me) additional capability.

So the short answer to your question (from my perspective) is that the best that used to be available was a far cry from the best that is now available. That's why today's preferences often don't include cameras that were used in the past. Besides that, most of them are lost, broken, or worn out. And there are some folks who do still like to use some of the ones that are left. Some of those folks do beautiful work with them. But I'll bet that if what is available today were available then, it would absolutely have been used by at least some of the photographers of the time.
I'm sure that rmalarz will reply for himself, but ... (show quote)


Yes, the D300 and D300s, are significantly better than the D200. I don't see the D200 in the hands of photographers much these days. I saw one last summer at a Veterans event. He was taken photos of virtually every Veteran there. I'm certain he took some great shots that afternoon. A pro was there too, with his Nikon D810, shooting portraits of the Veterans with the earlier version of the Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 lens. The person using the D200, didn't appear to be a pro. A D200 is not a D810. I would have loved to have seen the photos taken by that D200 user, but I didn't know him personally. And I dared not request to see his photos. I would have had to arrange time with him to see the photos he took that afternoon.

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May 3, 2019 19:30:12   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
jldodge wrote:
It's always interesting to hear from those who say that it's not the gear that's important. They all seem to have the most recent gear/technology AND they have worked with numerous previous generations of their current gear.


Welcome to UHH.

Your generalization doesn't apply to me. I have used two cameras over a 50 year period. There have been several "upgrades" of the gear I am using now over the years and I haven't felt any need to upgrade.

There is nothing intrinsically good or bad, right or wrong about this gear or that gear. The point is that a great photographer with older supposedly inferior gear will produce better images than a poor photographer with the latest gear.

Mike

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