Tony Northrup: "Yes, the gear does matter."
May 4, 2019 09:31:53 #
Tony himself is a good example of this. He owns the best equipment corporate sponsorship can get you and his pictures still suck. His images from his Morocco trip are all kinds of terrible.
May 4, 2019 09:40:28 #
maxiu9 wrote:
Northrup is partially full of shit. For 90% of peo... (show quote)
Reading the whole thread I see nobody said "Skill does not matter" so everyone agrees that the photographer's skill is important. But the subject was "Yes, the gear matter" and the gear does matter. How much does it matter depending on situation but it does matter. The simple fact that there is no photos with no gear.
May 4, 2019 10:03:12 #
Saying you need a camera to take a picture is like saying you need the sun for sunlight. It's a tautology and a logical fallacy. So what? Obviously a person taking an image needs a "camera" of some kind. I mean, no shit, Sherlock.
My point stands: for 90% of people and the overwhelming majority of pictures they take, the KIND of camera they use is completely unimportant and, therefore, the nature and kind of gear they use really doesn't matter. Shoot Canon or Sony, Nikon or film, a new mirrorless or 10-year-old DSLR, a cell phone or compact. It doesn't matter, at least not for the overwhelming majority of people who take pictures.
My point stands: for 90% of people and the overwhelming majority of pictures they take, the KIND of camera they use is completely unimportant and, therefore, the nature and kind of gear they use really doesn't matter. Shoot Canon or Sony, Nikon or film, a new mirrorless or 10-year-old DSLR, a cell phone or compact. It doesn't matter, at least not for the overwhelming majority of people who take pictures.
May 4, 2019 10:19:14 #
maxiu9 wrote:
Northrup is partially full of shit. For 90% of peo... (show quote)
Methinks you are 97.375% correct.😎
May 4, 2019 10:28:03 #
maxiu9 wrote:
Saying you need a camera to take a picture is like... (show quote)
This is undoubtedly true. However, all the members of this forum fall into the 10% category.
May 4, 2019 10:59:35 #
RRS
Loc: Not sure
saxman71 wrote:
This is undoubtedly true. However, all the members of this forum fall into the 10% category.
I can't agree with that because it appears that some members doesn't fit into that 10% category. Gear matters very much to me for what I shoot. From the video, "get closer to the animals", how close do you want to get to a grizzly bear? A 600mm prime and a FF with a 2X sure helps or a 600mm prime with a 1.4 and a crop body gets you even closer. I'll agree with the advent of the cell phone photography sure has changed. You now have to wonder are you buying a cell phone or a 20mp camera with a cell phone included. Tony can be somewhat opinionated, OK very, but that's what it seems to take today to be in demand and it appears that he is making a good living from what he does. I don't think that he gets any of his gear for free as he changes all too often, now he's in the process of changing from Nikon to Sony mirrorless.
May 4, 2019 11:08:46 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
Experienced eyes can see differences. Having been an ad agency art director
and owning an AV company in the 80's and working with very experienced and creative photographers
and videographers I can see differences. I started a forum on micro contrast and how this type
of lens and camera can create more beautiful contrast, pop, and 3D. A number of members here
with experience said that thought their something missing from their photography that they had
years ago with legacy lens etc.
I included this gentlemen link about micro contrast.
https://yannickkhong.com/blog/2016/2/8/micro-contrast-the-biggest-optical-luxury-of-the-world
I was amazed that I owned a couple of these lens he mentions.
Yes equipment does matter. I would say the biggest frustration is the price of what we call "good glass"
I try and stay with zeiss products or licensing like Sony has and see the difference.
Equipment does matter.
and owning an AV company in the 80's and working with very experienced and creative photographers
and videographers I can see differences. I started a forum on micro contrast and how this type
of lens and camera can create more beautiful contrast, pop, and 3D. A number of members here
with experience said that thought their something missing from their photography that they had
years ago with legacy lens etc.
I included this gentlemen link about micro contrast.
https://yannickkhong.com/blog/2016/2/8/micro-contrast-the-biggest-optical-luxury-of-the-world
I was amazed that I owned a couple of these lens he mentions.
Yes equipment does matter. I would say the biggest frustration is the price of what we call "good glass"
I try and stay with zeiss products or licensing like Sony has and see the difference.
Equipment does matter.
May 4, 2019 11:12:16 #
This may be the page to ask: I now have a Nikon D200 from way back. I'm considering purchasing the D5600. Does anyone have any experience or suggestions on this purchase?
May 4, 2019 11:43:45 #
saxman71 wrote:
This is undoubtedly true. However, all the members of this forum fall into the 10% category.
Perhaps some want to, some are not, some are.
One thing is true, though. So many billions of folks use smartphones that the point and shoot is virtually dead.
May 4, 2019 11:53:51 #
Strodav wrote:
I saw the video yesterday, enjoyed it. My take aw... (show quote)
Agreed. There is a principle of diminishing returns, whereby the higher you go in quality and price, the lesser and lesser will be the incremental returns based on the equipment alone. I am NOT referring to those who make their living in photography - like any business, you need the best and most comprehensive set of tools you can afford to adequately perform the job to the highest standards. BUT, to the vast majority of us amateurs, who do what we do solely for the love of the enterprise, trading up from a $2500 camera to a $3000 camera to gain a few pixels in resolution or a few millimeters in sensor size is just a fool's errand - unless you have money to burn and that's what you want to spend it on. Improving technique, camera knowledge, and compositional and PP skills will pay much higher dividends in image quality for the vast majority of photographers than spending thousands on the latest bright, shiny object.
May 4, 2019 11:53:55 #
Tom Daniels wrote:
Experienced eyes can see differences. Having been ... (show quote)
I have to agree. I have noticed this effect on images when using certain lenses. The images seem to pop off the plane with an almost 3D effect. And the colors look so much better too. I also think some sensors are better at rendering this effect than others.
Will
May 4, 2019 11:54:54 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
reminds me of a curve mentioned before about the photographer experience curve (from Photographer's Learning Curve)
Seen this before and just LOVE IT!
May 4, 2019 13:19:42 #
burkphoto wrote:
Perhaps some want to, some are not, some are.
One thing is true, though. So many billions of folks use smartphones that the point and shoot is virtually dead.
One thing is true, though. So many billions of folks use smartphones that the point and shoot is virtually dead.
I was just joking of course Mr. Burk. We're on page 11 now. Anything serious that needs to be said as long since been said.
May 4, 2019 13:24:04 #
tommystrat wrote:
Agreed. There is a principle of diminishing retur... (show quote)
Amen. G. A. S. can get irrational, bordering on a sickness. Knowledge and experience, combined with passion and a point of view, can produce stunning results.
Make a great photograph, and only a few snobs and other photographers will care what gear you used to do it. The medium is NOT the message. The message is... the message. (Sorry, Marshall McLuhan.)
May 4, 2019 13:26:27 #
maxiu9 wrote:
Saying you need a camera to take a picture is like... (show quote)
I am one who use the same camera for a long time. Don't own expensive lenses but the type of pictures I take don't require them. Since we're talking about Northrup and for better or worse I doubt that any one can take some of the pictures he took with my gear. Not to say that those are great or bad pictures but they just are pictures nobody can make with the gear I own.
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