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May 2, 2019 07:42:35   #
merrytexan Loc: georgia
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The piping plover is a small shorebird, reaching approximately seven inches in length. The piping plover is listed as endangered in some interior areas of Canada and United States and threatened along the East Coast of both countries. The birds' habit of nesting on the open beach leaves their eggs vulnerable to construction and human activity.

Piping Plover by Paul Sager, on Flickr


The images shared in this post come from the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago, Illinois in April 2019. The Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM was extended by the Canon Extender 2x III creating a 600mm, IS-enabled, f/5.6 configuration. All images were captured in RAW using a Canon EOS 5DIII mounted to a tripod. The image files were processed using Adobe Lightroom and Topaz DeNoise v6.

The Inca tern has a dark gray body and a red beak and legs. Moustache-like tufts of white feathers on each side of the beak signal maturity in males and females.

Inca Tern


The Canon Extender 2x III is a high performance teleconverter for use with Canon EF telephoto lenses. The 2x Extender multiplies the focal length by 2x and closes the effective aperture by two stops. Canon calls the equipment "extenders" where the same tools are called "teleconverters" by Nikon and other manufacturers.

The Bactrian camel has a thick brown coat that changes with the seasons. During winter, the coat thickens to provide added insulation against the cold. As tempertures increase in spring, large chunks of fur are shed to keep the animal cool. Both male and female Bactrian camels have two large humps on their backs.

Bactrian camel


The jambu fruit dove has green markings on the back, wings and tail, with a bright orange beak. The species is sexually dimorphic (males and females differ in appearance). Males have a crimson face and white chest displaying a pink patch near the throat while females possess a light purple face and green chest.

Jambu Fruit Dove


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beautiful shots.

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May 2, 2019 08:59:47   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Blu1Dog wrote:
So very nice! Thank you for sharing them and the info about them. As a former zoo keeper I love great shots of the animals. Thanks again.

Thank you Blu1Dog! I'm concerned sometimes the keeper fear I'm a little bit touched when the find me in the aviary for a few hours at the time.

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May 2, 2019 09:01:22   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Thank you josquin1, Bernard, JeffD, MerryTexan! Glad you enjoyed and thank yo for your kind comments.

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May 5, 2019 17:49:55   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 

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May 7, 2019 09:40:23   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The piping plover is a small shorebird, reaching approximately seven inches in length. The piping plover is listed as endangered in some interior areas of Canada and United States and threatened along the East Coast of both countries. The birds' habit of nesting on the open beach leaves their eggs vulnerable to construction and human activity.

Piping Plover by Paul Sager, on Flickr


The images shared in this post come from the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago, Illinois in April 2019. The Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM was extended by the Canon Extender 2x III creating a 600mm, IS-enabled, f/5.6 configuration. All images were captured in RAW using a Canon EOS 5DIII mounted to a tripod. The image files were processed using Adobe Lightroom and Topaz DeNoise v6.

The Inca tern has a dark gray body and a red beak and legs. Moustache-like tufts of white feathers on each side of the beak signal maturity in males and females.

Inca Tern


The Canon Extender 2x III is a high performance teleconverter for use with Canon EF telephoto lenses. The 2x Extender multiplies the focal length by 2x and closes the effective aperture by two stops. Canon calls the equipment "extenders" where the same tools are called "teleconverters" by Nikon and other manufacturers.

The Bactrian camel has a thick brown coat that changes with the seasons. During winter, the coat thickens to provide added insulation against the cold. As tempertures increase in spring, large chunks of fur are shed to keep the animal cool. Both male and female Bactrian camels have two large humps on their backs.

Bactrian camel


The jambu fruit dove has green markings on the back, wings and tail, with a bright orange beak. The species is sexually dimorphic (males and females differ in appearance). Males have a crimson face and white chest displaying a pink patch near the throat while females possess a light purple face and green chest.

Jambu Fruit Dove


The images are sized to fill your wide-screen display. Try using <F11> to maximize your browser window for the full effect. If the images overshoot your display, such as a laptop, just click on the image or the URL link and they'll resize to your screen from the host Flickr site. You can click a bit further into the image details on the Flickr page, if desired. EXIF data is available from the host Flickr pages as well. On the Flickr site, use your <L>key for Large and the <F11> for the full-screen.

If the images are not filling your widescreen display due to recent UHH changes, follow this link and update your UHH profile: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-572300-1.html
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Truly outstanding!

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May 7, 2019 12:16:09   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Thank you Raymond, ggab! Glad you enjoyed and thank you for your kind comments.

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May 7, 2019 14:03:03   #
DaveJ Loc: NE Missouri
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I wonder if anyone identified if any of these images were captured through glass, if yes, which?
Great set, again! Paul, I tried, and I can not tell from the IQ which were thru glass. I would guess one or two of the birds , and I even looked at reflections in eyes of two and could not tell for sure. You ride the bus with all that gear to the zoo in the city?

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May 7, 2019 14:26:09   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
DaveJ wrote:
Great set, again! Paul, I tried, and I can not tell from the IQ which were thru glass. I would guess one or two of the birds , and I even looked at reflections in eyes of two and could not tell for sure. You ride the bus with all that gear to the zoo in the city?

Thank you Dave! Only the fruit dove is through glass. These others have only a barrier of distance or inside the aviary, the birds keeping their distance from the humans. The 300 with the hood reversed fits inside my messenger bag with the camera detached and I carry the tripod collapsed in hand.

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May 7, 2019 14:38:42   #
DaveJ Loc: NE Missouri
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The 300 with the hood reversed fits inside my messenger bag with the camera detached and I carry the tripod collapsed in hand.
I was guessing you maybe took more than one camera, lens, converter and tripod. But you prob. have planned what you want to try that day. Nice you are so close. I'm 2 hours from STL zoo, so it is a full day to go. I looked thru again, and was amazed the IQ you achieved shooting the birds at ISO1600, 2500 and 4000. Anyone thinking you can not get greatt results with higher ISO's need look no further than these shots. How much noise was in the shots before you used Topaz Denoise 6? A little, moderate or a lot?

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May 7, 2019 15:01:41   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
DaveJ wrote:
I was guessing you maybe took more than one camera, lens, converter and tripod. But you prob. have planned what you want to try that day. Nice you are so close. I'm 2 hours from STL zoo, so it is a full day to go. I looked thru again, and was amazed the IQ you achieved shooting the birds at ISO1600, 2500 and 4000. Anyone thinking you can not get greatt results with higher ISO's need look no further than these shots. How much noise was in the shots before you used Topaz Denoise 6? A little, moderate or a lot?
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Hey Dave, my 'ideal' zoo set-up is now the 135 and 300 lenses with 1.4x and 2x extenders, 12 and 25 extension tubes and 1 EOS body. If I have a car, I'll bring this config with a lens and body on the tripod, over the shoulder, and everything else in the messenger bag. But the bus means no shorter lens as all this can't fit in the messenger bag. The 135 with one of the tubes and possibly the 1.4 is a great close-up / macro config.

Noise processing from the very non ISO invariant EOS 5DIII is a two step approach as well as using ETTR principals. There are different ways to employ DeNoise. I've found RAW processing in LR and TIFFs to Denoise as a final steps works best. The DeNoise6 software can run in batch, but not directly from LR. So, I output and process in batches based on the ISO of the image where most often, the parameters from one image at a given ISO will work for all images at the same ISO from a given session.

This post gives a sense of the 'native' noise from the 5DIII in the RAW. Look in the shadows of the 'before' versions. I use DeNoise for 'clean up perfection' where I take LR up to the tipping point of softening the details that LR will begin to do when trying to get at the finest details. I use DeNoise to finish the task. This approach is probably opposite of what Topaz envisioned. But, since the tool is not a RAW processor and requires TIFF (or JPEG) as input, I've found running all the RAW edits first in LR is more efficient. ETTR example link: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-567344-1.html

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May 7, 2019 17:17:13   #
DaveJ Loc: NE Missouri
 
Paul,
Thanks for the answer. I revisited the thread you linked to. Very informative. I did read it when you originally posted and have incorporated some of the tips. I need to reread many of your posts for all the info to sink into a thick head.Another question. You say you use Denoise 6. It is not available as far as I find, but was replaced with Denoise AI. Did you pass on their offer to upgrade free I read about, or are you now using the newer version?

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May 7, 2019 17:28:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
DaveJ wrote:
Paul,
Thanks for the answer. I revisited the thread you linked to. Very informative. I did read it when you originally posted and have incorporated some of the tips. I need to reread many of your posts for all the info to sink into a thick head.Another question. You say you use Denoise 6. It is not available as far as I find, but was replaced with Denoise AI. Did you pass on their offer to upgrade free I read about, or are you now using the newer version?


This is somewhat sad .... I clearly haven't been reading all / any emails from Topaz. I don't see the "AI" idea ever fitting my needs. Having just scanned the DeNoise AI page, I did see 'stand alone' that is also an attribute of DeNoise6 allowing for this batch processing capability that I use. Until I see my work falling behind or I see an example of noise processing that accomplishes some issues I see in the finest details of my images, I'll live with the money spent so far. A day will come when I move on from the EOS 5DIII that will cause me to move to the Adobe subscription model and probably a shake-up / re-evaluation of several of my existing tools.

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May 7, 2019 17:44:46   #
DaveJ Loc: NE Missouri
 
Paul,
I just read thru a little more on Denoise AI website, and it says it works on RAW. The website also says you can still upgrade for free. Just log in with email used to purchase it. I wonder if you have a extra computer you could put a trial version on to try it to see if it would help before downloading new to main computer? So you didn't lose Denoise 6. Your current results are so good I would not want to chance it.
Dave

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May 7, 2019 18:07:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
DaveJ wrote:
Paul,
I just read thru a little more on Denoise AI website, and it says it works on RAW. The website also says you can still upgrade for free. Just log in with email used to purchase it. I wonder if you have a extra computer you could put a trial version on to try it to see if it would help before downloading new to main computer? So you didn't lose Denoise 6. Your current results are so good I would not want to chance it.
Dave


We'll see. Certainly a project for some other day. I have a workflow that works for my needs where I'd need to be forced to change, not change for change sake. I have all my install files so there's not a risk of losing something through a faulting installation of what should be new and parallel software to existing tools.

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