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Apr 25, 2019 07:16:07   #
will47 Loc: Indianapolis, IN
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Actually that is a lie and you know it. Jobs are up for anyone who wants a decent job all over America. This is not like the time of Obama where the available jobs seemed to be flipping burgers. For people who want to work hard and get ahead it can be great. It is all about them and how hard they want to work.

Oh, learn to spell college. You look ridiculous talking about schooling and you can't spell college. And your first sentence should be Show(S) how bad things have become.

Always glad to help you out. Good luck on finding a job.

Dennis
Actually that is a lie and you know it. Jobs are ... (show quote)


Dennis: The guy is a democrat liberal. Don't confuse him with facts. His hero, the imam, was the worst ever.

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Apr 25, 2019 07:48:40   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
fantom wrote:
Well Stanley, here is another nice mess you've gotten yourself into.
By the way, you wouldn't be a member of a teacher's union would you?
Your so-called facts are fabrications. How many kids or grandkids do you have in public schools vs charter schools?

I have eye witnessed charter schools for years and they most certainly provide a quality education that is not offered by the propaganda mongering public schools. I looked at a public school history book a couple of years ago and learned some interesting facts that appears to be at odds with the balderdash you are spouting. I also sat in on a public school sociology class.

Here are some of the things that the charter school kids are not learning:
The world's worst human rights violator is the United States
The country most responsible for human rights violations throughout the rest of the world is the United States
America moved west of the Mississippi River because white farmers wanted to "steal Indian land"
The Industrial Revolution was the result of greedy industrialists who wanted to drive small craftsmen out of business.


Also, Stanley, charter schools are held responsible for their performance and in this area they consistently outscore the publics in all categories---except budget, theirs were less.
All of these items were emphasized in the public school material and classes I reviewed and there were numerous other examples, as well.

So, Stanley, these are just the tip of the ice berg when it comes to facts. So, go scratch the top of your head in bewilderment cuz you are mis-informed by your favorite Koolaid vendor so give it up---you've lost all credibility. I'm sure you can find some anti-American pinko friends to support your goofy personal opinions so pls confine any future remarks you may have to them cuz I have wasted far more time on you than you are worth.
Say good night to Mrs Laurel, Stanley.
Well Stanley, here is another nice mess you've got... (show quote)




Took the words right out of the Common Sense thinking manual. Well said. My granddaughters attend Catholic schools for the very same reasons, no indoctrination and no Muslim propaganda machine.

Dennis

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Apr 25, 2019 07:55:33   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
ICN3S wrote:
You do realize that if they worked an entire year instead of 9 months they would earn more?


Both my parents were teachers and one wife. Your argument has been ongoing since the beginning of time. But have you ever considered that many teachers get a choice of how their salary will be paid. They can stipulate that it be 12 monthly amounts or have that salary paid during the teaching months or 9 months. You people whine and bitch but the salary amount is still the same amount. You seem to equate it as having a pizza baker cut the pie into 12 slices rather than 9 because you will end up with more pizza.

Is it possible you are really that ignorant?

Dennis

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Apr 25, 2019 07:56:58   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
will47 wrote:
Dennis: The guy is a democrat liberal. Don't confuse him with facts. His hero, the imam, was the worst ever.


Yes, I know but, good grief, there should be a National limit on how stupid and lacking in common sense a Liberal can be.

Dennis

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Apr 25, 2019 11:43:52   #
ICN3S Loc: Cave Junction, OR
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Both my parents were teachers and one wife. Your argument has been ongoing since the beginning of time. But have you ever considered that many teachers get a choice of how their salary will be paid. They can stipulate that it be 12 monthly amounts or have that salary paid during the teaching months or 9 months. You people whine and bitch but the salary amount is still the same amount. You seem to equate it as having a pizza baker cut the pie into 12 slices rather than 9 because you will end up with more pizza.

Is it possible you are really that ignorant?

Dennis
Both my parents were teachers and one wife. Your ... (show quote)

I'm not suggesting they divide their 9 months of work into 12 , I'm suggesting they actually work 12 months!

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Apr 25, 2019 20:14:18   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Architect1776 wrote:
It's now worse than "Do you want fries with that?"


Has anybody pointed out that the apostrophe should be after the s in "peoples", not before it? Just to let you know I'm not a graduate in gender studies.

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Apr 25, 2019 20:19:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SteveR wrote:
Has anybody pointed out that the apostrophe should be after the s in "peoples", not before it? Just to let you know I'm not a graduate in gender studies.


Does it matter in this context?
I am sure most make errors in grammar.
So who really cares as long as the point is made.

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Apr 25, 2019 20:22:03   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
ICN3S wrote:
Most other professions aren't 9-5 either. There's meetings to prepare, meetings to attend, extra training, emails to read, etc. Plus they work about 50 weeks a year. I respect teachers and they can complain about not being able to discipline the students and I will support them but they chose to be teachers and shouldn't whine about pay or hours.


Just remember, ICN3S, you get what you pay for.

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Apr 25, 2019 20:24:05   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SteveR wrote:
Just remember, ICN3S, you get what you pay for.


???

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Apr 25, 2019 20:26:37   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Does it matter in this context?
I am sure most make errors in grammar.
So who really cares as long as the point is made.


I'm sure you copied it from somewhere, so I'm not sticking it on you. However, you would think that whoever did put the cartoon together making the point about certain degrees WOULD take care to use correct grammar. It's a pet peeve of mine. Newspapers fifty years ago were always edited for correct grammar. Internet news is not. It sends a message that correct grammar is not important. Perhaps it isn't to many people. To some of us it is. As an architect, how important is accuracy in dimensions? For those for whom language is primary, the same type of accuracy is just as important.

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Apr 25, 2019 20:32:54   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Architect1776 wrote:
???


This was a continuing discussion regarding tearchers' pay.

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Apr 26, 2019 03:16:34   #
oregon don
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Perhaps useful.
But as a college major a waste.
Internships for trades are far better and you actually earn while you learn. Unless the law is being broken.


In the trades internships are called apprenticeships, I was one

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Apr 26, 2019 08:21:19   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
ICN3S wrote:
I'm not suggesting they divide their 9 months of work into 12 , I'm suggesting they actually work 12 months!


Apparently you are missing your own point, either that or you got caught up in your Liberal lack of common sense.

You pointed out, "You do realize that if they worked an entire year instead of 9 months they would earn more?"

Teachers are paid an annual salary which some can decide to be paid in in either 9 month or 12 month divisions. They would not get paid more by working 12 months at all. The annual salary is the same. Divide however you like but the annual salary remains the same. Perhaps you missed that important part of 4th grade math.

Dennis

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Apr 26, 2019 11:22:47   #
ICN3S Loc: Cave Junction, OR
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Apparently you are missing your own point, either that or you got caught up in your Liberal lack of common sense.

You pointed out, "You do realize that if they worked an entire year instead of 9 months they would earn more?"

Teachers are paid an annual salary which some can decide to be paid in in either 9 month or 12 month divisions. They would not get paid more by working 12 months at all. The annual salary is the same. Divide however you like but the annual salary remains the same. Perhaps you missed that important part of 4th grade math.

Dennis
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My math is fine, your common sense is lacking.......I'm suggesting that if we had year round schools, teachers would be paid accordingly. They would earn about 1/3 more than they currently earn. Teachers unions would see to that. No one expects anyone to get paid for 12 months of work and receive 9 months pay just like no one should expect 12 months pay for 9 months of work! If teachers want "real" pay for the whole year then I expect them to actually work the entire year! If that means they get a temporary summer job then so be it.

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Apr 26, 2019 11:30:38   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
ICN3S wrote:
My math is fine, your common sense is lacking.......I'm suggesting that if we had year round schools, teachers would be paid accordingly. They would earn about 1/3 more than they currently earn. Teachers unions would see to that. No one expects anyone to get paid for 12 months of work and receive 9 months pay just like no one should expect 12 months pay for 9 months of work! If teachers want "real" pay for the whole year then I expect them to actually work the entire year! If that means they get a temporary summer job then so be it.
My math is fine, your common sense is lacking........ (show quote)


You are apparently STILL missing the point. But I don't have time to school you today, or any other day. I will try one more time and then I am done. Pay attention now. Teachers receive an annual salary of let's say, $60,000 per year. That does not change. How the teacher elects to receive that $60,000 per year is generally a choice of 12 installments or 9 installments, while the teacher is actually working. No difference in the amount of pay. What difference, at this point, does it make?

Bye now. Someone else can help you if you are still confused.

Dennis

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