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Apr 20, 2019 07:59:35   #
wds0410 Loc: Nunya
 
Plieku69 wrote:
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through Hoover Dam, Death Valley and north central California in early May. I think that a CPL would greatly benefit my pictures. I have some inexpensive filters that seem to not add much benefit to the photo quality. Therefore I am looking at B+W filters as I see them highly recommended here on UHH.
Adorama has them on sale right now at a very attractive price. Specifically this filter: https://www.adorama.com/bw72xsphkcpn.html

Thank You for your input,
Ken
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through H... (show quote)


I will second all of the Breakthrough Photography recommendations. Their filters are outstanding.

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Apr 20, 2019 09:09:21   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Plieku69 wrote:
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through Hoover Dam, Death Valley and north central California in early May. I think that a CPL would greatly benefit my pictures. I have some inexpensive filters that seem to not add much benefit to the photo quality. Therefore I am looking at B+W filters as I see them highly recommended here on UHH.
Adorama has them on sale right now at a very attractive price. Specifically this filter: https://www.adorama.com/bw72xsphkcpn.html

Thank You for your input,
Ken
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through H... (show quote)


From several articles I've read, spending more money doesn't get you better results. You can use that 72 mm filter on small lenses with a step-down ring.

Lots and lots of links -

https://backcountrygallery.com/how-to-use-a-polarizing-filter/
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2017/09/my-not-nearly-complete-but-rather-entertaining-circular-polarizer-filter-article/
http://www.lenstip.com/139.25-article-Polarizing_filters_test_2015_Results_and_summary.html
http://www.techradar.com/how-to/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-circular-polarizer-filter-5-top-models-tested-and-rated-1320842
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Circular-Polarizer-Filters.aspx
http://www.lenstip.com/index.php?art=139
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/07/26/how-to-use-a-polarizing-filter.aspx/

http://www.lenstip.com/115.1-article-Polarizing_filters_test.html
http://www.lenstip.com/115.4-article-Polarizing_filters_test_Results_and_summary.html
http://www.techradar.com/how-to/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-circular-polarizer-filter-5-top-models-tested-and-rated-1320842

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Apr 20, 2019 09:24:17   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
rjaywallace wrote:
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Apr 20, 2019 09:57:08   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
It is a very important filter for landscape photography.
If properly used - 90 degrees to the direction of sun light, it renders the green color the right way.
It also helps with the darker sky and with the clouds enhanced, but it is a must for vegetation and sometimes for increasing the contrast, depending on how much you turn the filter.
Evaporation from green leaves creates a vapor the polarizing filter eliminates and renders the greens about right, the way we perceive.
Highly recommend a good polarizer for your camera.
I hope, you will bring back and show us some good images?

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Apr 20, 2019 10:23:21   #
SuperFly48 Loc: NE ILLINOIS
 
I have been using Nikon UV filters and Nikon CPL's since my film days. Nikon made the camera and the lenses, so they ought to know how to make appropriate filters too for their equipment.

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Apr 20, 2019 10:25:36   #
Plieku69 Loc: The Gopher State, south end
 
I have to give Jerry an attboy for his quick and awesome research. Looking through the list of articles I learned a lot, about filter quality and even more importantly how to set the camera to take full advantage of CPL. Thank you Jerry.

For those who suggested that I look at Breakthrough filters, I whole heartedly agree that they are very good. I have had my eye on the. From the beginning. Right now dollars and cents are a factor.

There have been many great suggestions as is usually the case here at UHH.
Thank you one and all for sharing your ideas.

Ken

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Apr 20, 2019 10:35:13   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
Plieku69 wrote:
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through Hoover Dam, Death Valley and north central California in early May. I think that a CPL would greatly benefit my pictures. I have some inexpensive filters that seem to not add much benefit to the photo quality. Therefore I am looking at B+W filters as I see them highly recommended here on UHH.
Adorama has them on sale right now at a very attractive price. Specifically this filter: https://www.adorama.com/bw72xsphkcpn.html

Thank You for your input,
Ken
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through H... (show quote)


I have that exact filter in the same size and don't like it because it is too narrow and too hard to turn. The two layers fit together too tightly and it's nearly impossible to turn with a lens hood on. I quit using it and got a thicker smoother turning (turns with one finger) Hoya CPL.

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Apr 20, 2019 10:38:00   #
markwilliam1
 
I own that particular filter and it is Outstanding! B+W filters also have a life time guarantee. No need to spend more money! Great price!
Plieku69 wrote:
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through Hoover Dam, Death Valley and north central California in early May. I think that a CPL would greatly benefit my pictures. I have some inexpensive filters that seem to not add much benefit to the photo quality. Therefore I am looking at B+W filters as I see them highly recommended here on UHH.
Adorama has them on sale right now at a very attractive price. Specifically this filter: https://www.adorama.com/bw72xsphkcpn.html

Thank You for your input,
Ken
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through H... (show quote)

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Apr 20, 2019 10:49:16   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Plieku69 wrote:
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through Hoover Dam, Death Valley and north central California in early May. I think that a CPL would greatly benefit my pictures. I have some inexpensive filters that seem to not add much benefit to the photo quality. Therefore I am looking at B+W filters as I see them highly recommended here on UHH.
Adorama has them on sale right now at a very attractive price. Specifically this filter: https://www.adorama.com/bw72xsphkcpn.html

Thank You for your input,
Ken
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through H... (show quote)


I'm curious. What do you mean "do not add much benefit"? Are you saying the inexpensive polarizers don't polarize?
I don't think that basic polarizing function is the difference between low and high price filters.

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Apr 20, 2019 10:54:56   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
Why would you want to put a cheap piece of glass on an expensive lens?

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Apr 20, 2019 11:14:49   #
Rick from NY Loc: Sarasota FL
 
Tomfl101 wrote:
From my perspective polarizing filters are not worth it. Although they sometimes improve skies they also tend to dull down natural reflections from leaves, rocks, etc and just take to life out of some scenes, not to mention losing 1.5-2 stops exposure. I believe better results are rendered in post processing with an "original" file.


strongly disagree. As someone above mentioned, polarizers are designed to remove reflections from non-metallic surfaces. Removing "natural reflections from leaves, rocks etc..." is precisely why landscape photogs mount them if the situation warrants it. Shooting foliage when water on leaves or rocks create "natural" (but unwanted) reflections is why we use them. Removing reflections from lake scenes to allow the details below the surface be visible would be another application. If using the filter creates a dull scene, you can unscrew it, but there are too often times when you need to control reflections.

If you are using them to darken the sky, while that may certainly be the result from using a polo, you are not taking full advantage of these indispensable tools. In fact, I seldom use the filter to darken a blue sky and "pop" fluffy white clouds. Too many folks crank the filter effects of the sky all the way to dark blue bordering on black creating totally unnatural images. Minor polarizing of the blue sky can be effective in some circumstances, but generally only when judiciously (read lightly) applied.

By the way - I would love to learn exactly how you replicate the results from a well employed polo filter in post? I am pretty well skilled in photoshop and have never been able to remove a reflection from a surface. Or are you just referring to unnaturally darkening a sky in post?

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Apr 20, 2019 11:18:56   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
Paul J. Svetlik wrote:
Why would you want to put a cheap piece of glass on an expensive lens?


Some prefer a cheap piece of glass with a very high price.

High prices do not always indicate high quality.

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Apr 20, 2019 11:19:27   #
markwilliam1
 
Rick from NY wrote:
strongly disagree. As someone above mentioned, polarizers are designed to remove reflections from non-metallic surfaces. Removing "natural reflections from leaves, rocks etc..." is precisely why landscape photogs mount them if the situation warrants it. Shooting foliage when water on leaves or rocks create "natural" (but unwanted) reflections is why we use them. Removing reflections from lake scenes to allow the details below the surface be visible would be another application. If using the filter creates a dull scene, you can unscrew it, but there are too often times when you need to control reflections.

I totally agree with Rick! A CPF is indispensable for Landscape photography! If you are using them to darken the sky, while that may certainly be the result from using a polo, you are not taking full advantage of these indispensable tools. In fact, I seldom use the filter to darken a blue sky and "pop" fluffy white clouds. Too many folks crank the filter effects of the sky all the way to dark blue bordering on black creating totally unnatural images. Minor polarizing of the blue sky can be effective in some circumstances, but generally only when judiciously (read lightly) applied.

By the way - I would love to learn exactly how you replicate the results from a well employed polo filter in post? I am pretty well skilled in photoshop and have never been able to remove a reflection from a surface. Or are you just referring to unnaturally darkening a sky in post?
strongly disagree. As someone above mentioned, po... (show quote)

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Apr 20, 2019 11:21:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Plieku69 wrote:
I have to give Jerry an attboy for his quick and awesome research. Looking through the list of articles I learned a lot, about filter quality and even more importantly how to set the camera to take full advantage of CPL. Thank you Jerry.

For those who suggested that I look at Breakthrough filters, I whole heartedly agree that they are very good. I have had my eye on the. From the beginning. Right now dollars and cents are a factor.

There have been many great suggestions as is usually the case here at UHH.
Thank you one and all for sharing your ideas.

Ken
I have to give Jerry an attboy for his quick and a... (show quote)


The info might be awesome, and it was quick, but the research was done a long time ago. I have 118 pages of links. I look up the topic and then copy and paste.

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Apr 20, 2019 11:29:46   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Plieku69 wrote:
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through Hoover Dam, Death Valley and north central California in early May. I think that a CPL would greatly benefit my pictures. I have some inexpensive filters that seem to not add much benefit to the photo quality. Therefore I am looking at B+W filters as I see them highly recommended here on UHH.
Adorama has them on sale right now at a very attractive price. Specifically this filter: https://www.adorama.com/bw72xsphkcpn.html

Thank You for your input,
Ken
I am laying out the itinerary for a trip through H... (show quote)


Breakthrough Photography CP filters have less colorcast than B+W filters and are extremely scratch resistant. Check out the data on: https://breakthrough.photography

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