Requesting comments or suggestions regarding photo
Apr 17, 2019 20:59:13 #
SAVH
Loc: La Jolla, CA
Linda (initially from Maine) suggested I try in this forum. If I can manage to upload both pictures so they can be downloaded (I somehow was only able to get one uploaded in my previous effort) I am looking for comments and suggestions. One picture shows the wider scene which is a street in Old San Juan in Puerto Rico. I took quite a few variations of the scene and my wife particularly likes the close up version. I'm not sure it is good enough (I know- if she likes it, it is, but she would like the input as well.) Linda mentioned that the rips in a few umbrellas could be cloned out (not a skill I have at this point) but maybe, that would be denying what was really there. I use the subscription version of LR and PS except I haven't used the PS portion yet, just LR. The camera is a Nikon 850 with a Nikon 24-70 mm VR lens. Thank you.
Scotty
Scotty
Apr 17, 2019 21:32:00 #
kenievans
Loc: Dallas
I really like the cropped version. It's colorful, happy, and a visual treat for the eyes. The second one is interesting from a documentary perspective but it doesn't have the impact of the first one. Thank you for sharing.
Apr 17, 2019 21:38:00 #
SAVH
Loc: La Jolla, CA
Keni, Thank you. The wider perspective was just that - to put the other picture in context.
Scotty
Scotty
Apr 17, 2019 21:38:22 #
I like both pictures, but I think the close-up is stronger and bolder. Yes, the rips could be cloned out, but I don't know why you'd want to. The bit about 'denying what was there' is not a thing to worry about, IMHO. What you as a photographer should worry about is what you want from the picture. Anything you do to get to that vision is fair game.
For myself, I would get rid of the rips if I found them annoying or if I felt they drew too much attention from the overall shot. From my point of view, they are neither, but you may well disagree.
For myself, I would get rid of the rips if I found them annoying or if I felt they drew too much attention from the overall shot. From my point of view, they are neither, but you may well disagree.
Apr 17, 2019 21:49:24 #
SAVH
Loc: La Jolla, CA
htbrown, Thank you. I appreciate your input. I expect to go with the rips as they are. The predominant opinion seems to be to go ahead and print it and mount it.
Scotty
Scotty
Apr 17, 2019 22:00:55 #
The bottom image (the street scene) would be improved by:
1. cropping into the image slightly, first to remove the open sky at the top of frame and also to remove the partial doorways, particularly on the right side.
2. The exposure, saturation and general vibrancy of the colors should be improved to jump off the frame such as the cropped version of the umbrellas.
The section FAQ includes the following: Permissions The OP must make it clear if permission is granted for others to alter or enhance, and then repost any of his/her images. This may be stated in the OP's by-line, signature or body text of his/her post, or as a separate post within the thread.
Please confirm your interest in seeing an example from LR of the updates discussed above.
1. cropping into the image slightly, first to remove the open sky at the top of frame and also to remove the partial doorways, particularly on the right side.
2. The exposure, saturation and general vibrancy of the colors should be improved to jump off the frame such as the cropped version of the umbrellas.
The section FAQ includes the following: Permissions The OP must make it clear if permission is granted for others to alter or enhance, and then repost any of his/her images. This may be stated in the OP's by-line, signature or body text of his/her post, or as a separate post within the thread.
Please confirm your interest in seeing an example from LR of the updates discussed above.
Apr 17, 2019 22:04:33 #
SAVH
Loc: La Jolla, CA
CHG_CANON, Yes, I am happy to have people play with my picture. However, for my purposes, I am really only interested in the close-up photo. The other photo was offered just to put the close-up in context. I agree that the wider photo needs a fair amount of work.
Scotty
Scotty
Apr 17, 2019 22:31:16 #
Here's an example of fixing the torn umbrella. The arm could be better, but that requires the original rather than this reduced resolution example. Given the ripped section falls along the upper 1/3 guideline where the eyes naturally fall when viewing, I'm with the members that consider this needs repairing rather than left alone. I cropped / repaired a few other distractions that fall on the edges of the frame, again distracting the eyes to the edges and away from the center. If working from the original, I'd also clone-out the clasps on a few of the red umbrellas on the right, again as minor distractions within the image.
Also attached is a recrop, leveling and minor cloning of the street scene, with changes to the exposure, WB and a pass through Topaz Adjust for an HDR effect.
Also attached is a recrop, leveling and minor cloning of the street scene, with changes to the exposure, WB and a pass through Topaz Adjust for an HDR effect.
Apr 18, 2019 08:05:00 #
Hi Scotty, I'd forgotten you visited PP Forum a couple of months ago, so you did know the address without my help 
I also hadn't realized you weren't asking for edits to the wider view, though I'm glad you encouraged Chg_Canon as I think his changes make a huge difference. It's a charming photo in its own right, especially for those of us who aren't familiar with displays of this sort.
I'll see if Paul is still around to give you the step-by-step on cloning; otherwise, anyone else reading this should feel welcome to do so. There was a topic recently in main forum called "removing distractions" in which he described how to use LR: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-587770-1.html#10068111
If you prefer videos, here's one I found with a Google search:
https://youtu.be/Xh6ry9Nywfw
In Photoshop there are more tools that can work together:
Spot Healing Brush Tool
Healing Brush Tool
Patch Tool
Clone Stamp Tool
Content Aware Fill
For visual interest, I found the rips to be a delightful break in the pattern. As htbrown suggests, the final decision is yours and your wife's since you folks are the ones who will be looking at it every day
I also hadn't realized you weren't asking for edits to the wider view, though I'm glad you encouraged Chg_Canon as I think his changes make a huge difference. It's a charming photo in its own right, especially for those of us who aren't familiar with displays of this sort.
I'll see if Paul is still around to give you the step-by-step on cloning; otherwise, anyone else reading this should feel welcome to do so. There was a topic recently in main forum called "removing distractions" in which he described how to use LR: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-587770-1.html#10068111
If you prefer videos, here's one I found with a Google search:
https://youtu.be/Xh6ry9Nywfw
In Photoshop there are more tools that can work together:
Spot Healing Brush Tool
Healing Brush Tool
Patch Tool
Clone Stamp Tool
Content Aware Fill
For visual interest, I found the rips to be a delightful break in the pattern. As htbrown suggests, the final decision is yours and your wife's since you folks are the ones who will be looking at it every day
Apr 18, 2019 08:11:06 #
Wow, a huge improvement in picture #2. Nice, picture #1. Thanks for showing us how simple improvments can change a good image into a great one!
Apr 18, 2019 08:55:20 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Also attached is a recrop, leveling and minor cloning of the street scene, with changes to the exposure, WB and a pass through Topaz Adjust for an HDR effect.
Also attached is a recrop, leveling and minor cloning of the street scene, with changes to the exposure, WB and a pass through Topaz Adjust for an HDR effect.
That looks great !
Apr 18, 2019 09:21:58 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Hi Scotty, I'd forgotten you visited PP Forum a co... (show quote)
My steps were much the same as provided in the link above. That is, I will typically first do a clone. Then, heal over the cloning. The left tear, only in green, was easy. The right tear, covering two tones and next to the black of the arm of the umbrella was harder. With a higher resolution image / the original RAW, the left clone would be easier and more effective. But, just a minute or so in Lightroom, with some practice on how to do the work.
Apr 18, 2019 09:30:24 #
I like the improved version of the wide shot, a bit brighter and some distractions removed on the edges and bottom.
However, I much prefer the closeup. There are no distractions (walls, windows, doors... ordinary things) and the oblique lines add a lot. I tried to pump up the saturation a bit to make it more colorful.
However, I much prefer the closeup. There are no distractions (walls, windows, doors... ordinary things) and the oblique lines add a lot. I tried to pump up the saturation a bit to make it more colorful.
Apr 18, 2019 09:36:57 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
As a 20x30 poster in a sunroom (Florida/Arizona room ...I tried to pump up the saturation a bit to make it more colorful.
) or child's bedroom, how engaging this would be!Apr 18, 2019 10:46:09 #
SAVH wrote:
htbrown, Thank you. I appreciate your input. I expect to go with the rips as they are. The predominant opinion seems to be to go ahead and print it and mount it.
Scotty
Scotty
I agree with your choice. It works, for what your artistic intent was.
Good work, and I hope we get to see more.
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