A Walk on Dartmoor
Apr 18, 2019 11:48:00 #
camerapapi wrote:
That is a great shot and a great conversion. It is slightly darker than I like but that is me.
Thanks for your comments they’re much appreciated.
Apr 18, 2019 11:53:42 #
rborud wrote:
Magnetman I am so enthralled with this image, the shading and positional attributes, the near look of a nineteenth century type of a gravure technique, that I made a few adjustments, and I hope with your approval am posting this wonderful image of yours. RBorud
Very happy to see your take on it rborud. You seem to have taken some of the highlights down a bit, and possibly some shadows or depth of black (?), and brightened the cottage - which I thought I’d already brightened but yours is better without doubt. Please explain the process you went through ( I’m beginning to think I should have posted it over in Post Processing). And thanks for your comments and interest.
Apr 18, 2019 11:59:43 #
I believe I've commented on the darkness of your images before 
. My main complaint is that the main subject (the walker) is too hard to discern. If you were to slightly brighten the walker and the immediate surroundings it would cure that problem while keeping the overall look and mood.
. My main complaint is that the main subject (the walker) is too hard to discern. If you were to slightly brighten the walker and the immediate surroundings it would cure that problem while keeping the overall look and mood.Apr 18, 2019 12:29:03 #
R.G. wrote:
I believe I've commented on the darkness of your images before . My main complaint is that the main subject (the walker) is too hard to discern. If you were to slightly brighten the walker and the immediate surroundings it would cure that problem while keeping the overall look and mood.
. My main complaint is that the main subject (the walker) is too hard to discern. If you were to slightly brighten the walker and the immediate surroundings it would cure that problem while keeping the overall look and mood.I do recall that you may have RG!!! The walker is not the subject, but the walk is, so I see it as a landscape image - with the cottage taking centre spot. Everything else contributes but is secondary (for me). It is the beginning of about a two mile walk along the valley to the far side of the wood that hasn’t quite come into view yet, but here I wanted to make it the walk home. For some lucky soul that’s what it is - but I had to remove their white 4x4 that spoiled the idea.
We both know we’ll never agree on most of my images but I’m very glad you’ve put your thoughts to it. Many thanks, I do appreciate it.
Apr 18, 2019 12:46:18 #
magnetoman wrote:
.....The walker is not the subject, but the walk is, so I see it as a landscape image....
OK, the walker isn't the main subject but I would describe her as being a vital ingredient which is key to creating the atmosphere and story. If the walker, the house and the path were something brighter than low key there would still be plenty of darkness in the rest of the image to maintain the mood. But if you're happy with the balance as shown, that's what matters. It's your story and you're happy with how it's being told.
Apr 18, 2019 14:28:52 #
rborud
Loc: Minnesota
Magnetoman I first must correct myself when I used the term gravure with respect to your image, as an ex curator of prints in a gallery (TOO many years ago) I could not remember that what I meant to say it looked much like one of the many variations of stone lithography the name still escapes me. As to what I did was quite simple. First copied it into two layers to work with. Straightened as the figure was somewhat gravitationaly challenged. Reassigned the image histogram slightly more to the right. Removed the steel posts and wire that was in front of the left wall. Also removed the road, that showing partly above the wall. Readjusted the dynamic range to darken, used light dark brushes to adjust areas, as you already observed. I have to say many photographers tend to blandify images for the sake of detail. (Yes I do realize that the last is high treason) However in some cases luxurious blacks can be bold foils in ones creative thinking. So as you see I did very little, just concentrated on the fine four leading lines to an infinity point of trail and cottage. The figure a minor adjective in my thinking.
I might add I did consider reducing the black area of the sky at the top, by removing about half as one looks at the right side of the image. But just a consideration. Thanks RBorud
I might add I did consider reducing the black area of the sky at the top, by removing about half as one looks at the right side of the image. But just a consideration. Thanks RBorud
Apr 18, 2019 16:27:35 #
rborud wrote:
Magnetoman I first must correct myself when I u... (show quote)
Thanks for the explanation rborud, simple but effective changes. Its not a road on the other side of the wall, although I now see it looks like one - its a stream that runs through the valley. And why I didn't think of removing that wire fencing I just don't know! As far as the contrast and shadow goes - just wasn't brave enough, but now I've found a like-minded soul I'll be giving it a go.
As an aside, I did spend three of four years in the print industry and never did get the hang of the terminology, although stone lithographs have fascinated my thinking for a long time now - since a large lithograph of the great fire of San Francisco came into our possession some years ago in fact.
Apr 18, 2019 19:42:21 #
magnetoman wrote:
Feel free to post it Rich, although I’ve seen it in every form on the way to reaching this, others may well agree with you and enjoy it more.
Many thanks for your interest and thoughts on it.
Many thanks for your interest and thoughts on it.
Thank you!
I somehow know without it being said that you have explored this image in every way possible. After all that is what we tend to do.
(I'm still curious about those wires. Being that close to the wall I can't help but wonder what is their purpose and since there are two strands near the top are they electrified? Their presence adds another positive and ponderable aspect to the image for me)
PS: I wish that I had removed the tire track!
Apr 19, 2019 04:00:09 #
Rich1939 wrote:
Thank you! br I somehow know without it being sai... (show quote)
I’m sure there are some that prefer this lighter version Rich. Whilst I don’t object to it, it simply isn’t what I was after in the first place - it’s not an ‘old print’. Otherwise it’s fine - but the cottage is falling over! It’s the walker that needs straightening.
I wonder if the fence was there before the wall? Can’t think of another reason for it to be there - unless it carries services to the cottage, which is hardly likely.
Many thanks for taking the time to consider and adjust the image your way, your interest is appreciated.
Apr 19, 2019 08:55:16 #
rborud
Loc: Minnesota
rborud wrote:
Magnetoman I first must correct myself when I u... (show quote)
Magnetoman upon rereading my note to you I saw a very dumb mistake, it should read "reassign the histogram to the left". I do feel better now, thanks. RBorud
Apr 19, 2019 09:13:09 #
rborud wrote:
Magnetoman upon rereading my note to you I saw a very dumb mistake, it should read "reassign the histogram to the left". I do feel better now, thanks. RBorud
👍I mentally corrected you as I read it RB, without thinking of it too much but it’s good to get things recorded.
Jul 1, 2019 22:02:30 #
lmTrying
Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
magnetoman wrote:
Was thinking about an etching I saw recently and decided to see if I could replicate the effect with a landscape image from our recent break on Dartmoor. This is the start of the walk from Two Bridges out to Wistman's Wood. Not to everyone taste Im sure, but your thoughts on it would be appreciated anyway.
There are programs that will covert photos into what appears to be line drawings / etchings. I'm not sure, but Photoshop may have that ability. If that is what you are trying to do.
Jul 2, 2019 07:39:26 #
lmTrying wrote:
There are programs that will covert photos into what appears to be line drawings / etchings. I'm not sure, but Photoshop may have that ability. If that is what you are trying to do.
Yes, I’ve used Ps for that but it’s not quite the look I wanted. Even though an etching is technically a drawing, the end result is rather more intricate than a computer-rendered line drawing - but maybe it can be taken further, I’m not experienced enough with it to say. Thanks for your input IT, it’s appreciated.
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