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Apr 13, 2019 22:43:54   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
papakatz45 wrote:
So you don't believe in donating to charity to help those less fortunate than ypu, legal or i******s. Got it. What f**e proposal did I make?


What other f**e choice did you make? You seem to think that if someone does not want to build a wall, they are hypocritical if they do not want them living in their house or backyard. Second false statement is your BS about not giving to charities. Not only did no one state that, it is a ridiculous statement. You keep putting up f**e scenarios to support nothing.

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Apr 14, 2019 00:17:33   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
What a stupid post. Maybe you did not notice but NZ and Australia do not have borders. They are islands.
What is illegal is having the military take care of immigrants within the US borders. That's because the military is bound by the Posse Comitatus Act, a 19th- century federal law that restricts participation in law enforcement activities. Unless Congress specifically authorizes it, military personnel can't have direct contact with civilians, including immigrants.
Technically it is not against the constitution because the word immigration does not appear in the constitution. It is against the law.
What a stupid post. Maybe you did not notice but N... (show quote)


Not so sure that it applies to those entering the country illegally or without authorization, I do believe you are reaching there, the courts will in the end be the arbiter of that.

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Apr 14, 2019 00:35:55   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Not so sure that it applies to those entering the country illegally or without authorization, I do believe you are reaching there, the courts will in the end be the arbiter of that.


They have ruled on it several times. Even i*****l i*******ts have constitutional rights in America.
I know this is a very liberal source but according to the Heritage Foundation:

The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the Army and Air Force from being used to enforce the laws of the U.S. with only select exceptions. Additional statues and Department of Defense policy directives have further applied Posse Comitatus to the Navy and Marine Corps. The only branch of the military with broad law enforcement authority is the Coast Guard.

Other specific exceptions where the military can enforce laws include:

Emergency authority in the event of “sudden and unexpected civil disturbances, disasters, and calamities”
Protection of federal property and functions

I**********n or r*******n

When the execution of state or federal laws are obstructed or prevented, such that the rights of citizens are denied or the course of justice is impeded

The National Guard when acting under authority of the state governor.

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Apr 14, 2019 01:53:32   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
They have ruled on it several times. Even i*****l i*******ts have constitutional rights in America.
I know this is a very liberal source but according to the Heritage Foundation:

The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the Army and Air Force from being used to enforce the laws of the U.S. with only select exceptions. Additional statues and Department of Defense policy directives have further applied Posse Comitatus to the Navy and Marine Corps. The only branch of the military with broad law enforcement authority is the Coast Guard.

Other specific exceptions where the military can enforce laws include:

Emergency authority in the event of “sudden and unexpected civil disturbances, disasters, and calamities”
Protection of federal property and functions

I**********n or r*******n

When the execution of state or federal laws are obstructed or prevented, such that the rights of citizens are denied or the course of justice is impeded

The National Guard when acting under authority of the state governor.
They have ruled on it several times. Even i*****l ... (show quote)



The military is only being deployed at the border in support rolls, not in actual enforcement rolls, so there is no violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, in exactly the same manner as Obama and Bush did.

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Apr 14, 2019 02:03:15   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
WNYShooter wrote:
The military is only being deployed at the border in support rolls, not in actual enforcement rolls, so there is no violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, in exactly the same manner as Obama and Bush did.


Trump and the pentagon discussed building large tent cities and federal military taking care of it. Military can build the containment but is prohibited from taking care of occupants.

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Apr 14, 2019 02:17:39   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Trump and the pentagon discussed building large tent cities and federal military taking care of it. Military can build the containment but is prohibited from taking care of occupants.


They can maintain the facilities, infrastructure, and supply, but not management of the occupants.

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Apr 14, 2019 06:00:50   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Frank T wrote:
Violates law, procedure and probably the Constitution.
Figures you'd support it.


Yet you support dumping them in cities acrid the country who don't want them.

What this was, was an example of pointing out absurdity with absurdity.

The thinking class got it, the serf class didn't.

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Apr 14, 2019 07:52:43   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Back to Obama, you just can’t keep him out of your head.


Yes, t*****r boy, but not just Obama but all of you foolish Liberal Democrats who v**ed for the POS as well.

Now stay right there so we can all laugh at your foolishness and your lies.

Dennis

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Apr 14, 2019 08:53:38   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
What other f**e choice did you make? You seem to think that if someone does not want to build a wall, they are hypocritical if they do not want them living in their house or backyard. Second false statement is your BS about not giving to charities. Not only did no one state that, it is a ridiculous statement. You keep putting up f**e scenarios to support nothing.


No one said anything about a wall. Please try to keep up. You are the one who said you preferred not to do it yourself but let tax dollars do it. You are so typical of far lefties when you start to lose the argument you try to deflect and back paddle.

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Apr 14, 2019 08:59:15   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Yes, t*****r boy, but not just Obama but all of you foolish Liberal Democrats who v**ed for the POS as well.

Now stay right there so we can all laugh at your foolishness and your lies.

Dennis


Dennis I think you are confused. The t*****rous POS is currently in the White House. You can keep them straight, he is the same color as you.

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Apr 14, 2019 09:27:28   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Dave I never said ALL Republicans are happy with Trump. I know they are not. But my question was about the good things Trump has done for America. Like him or not isn't that what a President is supposed to do, care about America and Americans and do the best for all of us. Not just black, not just for white, not just for anybody in particular but ALL Americans. In my opinion Trump is doing just that.

Yes I do give him credit for the economic improvements. But I don't care if you want to give them to Hillary or Obama or a combination of the new Muslims and AOC in Congress. Credit whoever you want but the fact remains that it is Trump who did open up jobs in steel and coal. Maybe they are not the highest ratings for those two since the 1940's but he did do something. It was Trump who made America self sufficient with regard to oil. It sure as hell was not Obama who did his best to cut back on oil production. America now has the capability to sell oil to other countries. Is this not the first time in history that claim can be made? Trump has gone to other countries to entice business men to open factories here in America to create more jobs. Possibly you remember Obama making a claim such as, Trump getting new jobs in America? What is he a magician? Well Abracadabra Dave. None of this was Obama, either Bush or Bill Clinton but Donald Trump. If you don't want to think so that is up to you and fine with me. But I believe it is to his credit. While Bill Clinton and Obama were opening up jobs in Mexico and other world countries Trump works to create jobs in America. For that I give him credit. But what about the other claims I made, about Jerusalem being the capital of Israel, opening negotiations with NK, possibly a meeting of the minds between NK and SK to finally bring an end to the Korean War? This too, is all Trump and nobody else. You may certainly think what you want but to deny Trump credit for things he has actually done is wrong.


I have not seen Trump crap on the environment. I have seen him withdraw from the Paris Accord (I think it is) because America would have paid Billions of dollars into something but so far nobody has been able to really explain what we are paying into and why. America is one of the cleanest countries on the planet when compared with other countries such as China. Yet we seem to be blamed for every dumb ass poor ecology factor on the planet. Aren't you tired of the UN v****g every year and saying America is a bad place for human rights when the v****g nations are Russia, China, Muslim countries and just every other s**t hole on the planet. I am tired of that crap. I appreciate Trump giving them the middle finger and a rollicking FU.

I remember my mother in the early 60's saying the UN was doing absolutely nothing for America. My mom was about the strongest Democrat there was and she h**ed the UN. Since then the UN has gotten worse. We should absolutely pull out of the UN and tell them to get their butts out of our country. Other UN nations were not paying their proper dues. Don't you at least appreciate Trump telling them they need to do that. Same with NATO. Other Presidents are on record of wanting those nations from the UN and NATO to pay their share but never seemed to get around to it. Trump saw a need and got around to it. Those nations may have been pissy about it which of course brings Liberals to tell us the world leaders h**e Trump. But even if that is true, shouldn't our Liberal leaders stick up for America and Americans rather than other world leaders who Trump forced to pay their fair share. I mean really, what side are these Liberals on anyway. Don't you wonder or are you so far against Trump for wh**ever your reasons are you just don't care. Trump works for America. I don't give a s**t if other leaders don't like him as long as he looks our for us. Apparently you think differently and so do others.

You and others must think Trump should be as Obama was, bowing down to other world leaders, giving in at every opportunity, to every request from other world leaders in order to not have any friction between them and America. But in the long run it is Trump who is earning the respect from other world leaders rather than the YES man, Obama.

You are welcome to think as you wish. But I will think in terms of what is best for America.

Dennis
Dave I never said ALL Republicans are happy with T... (show quote)


Repeating your proclamations does not make them valid. You obviously have not bothered to check market or unemployment statistics or anything else for that matter, to back up your statement, so again, it is pointless to continue.

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Apr 14, 2019 10:01:42   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DaveO wrote:
Repeating your proclamations does not make them valid. You obviously have not bothered to check market or unemployment statistics or anything else for that matter, to back up your statement, so again, it is pointless to continue.


But yet you continued.

Each month I see on the news that the market is up, employment is up. What are you missing? Don't you listen to these announcements on your news station? Should they be different than mine. I mentioned 401k's are up. Mine was just up $1300.00 for the quarter. I can't get more accurate than that can I. How about your 401k? Was it up or down, if you have one?

Dennis

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Apr 14, 2019 10:10:42   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
But yet you continued.

Each month I see on the news that the market is up, employment is up. What are you missing? Don't you listen to these announcements on your news station? Should they be different than mine. I mentioned 401k's are up. Mine was just up $1300.00 for the quarter. I can't get more accurate than that can I. How about your 401k? Was it up or down, if you have one?

Dennis


You're just kidding right? Gee, the government could save so much money compiling statistics by simply calling you. Got it, thanks for your insight.

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Apr 14, 2019 10:44:23   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
LWW wrote:
Yet you support dumping them in cities acrid the country who don't want them.

What this was, was an example of pointing out absurdity with absurdity.

The thinking class got it, the serf class didn't.


I've got an idea. I'll support them being sent to NYC if NYC is allowed to pick the spot where they are housed. Then we can simply put them in Trump Towers and the Trump Plaza Hotel, and the Trump Golf Club in the Bronx, where they can be taken care of.
You see, Trump is a troll that has you believing he's working for your best interest. He's not. He's playing to your fears and you're responding exactly the way he's intended you to. You are his puppet.

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Apr 14, 2019 11:07:30   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
They have ruled on it several times. Even i*****l i*******ts have constitutional rights in America.
I know this is a very liberal source but according to the Heritage Foundation:

The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the Army and Air Force from being used to enforce the laws of the U.S. with only select exceptions. Additional statues and Department of Defense policy directives have further applied Posse Comitatus to the Navy and Marine Corps. The only branch of the military with broad law enforcement authority is the Coast Guard.

Other specific exceptions where the military can enforce laws include:

Emergency authority in the event of “sudden and unexpected civil disturbances, disasters, and calamities”
Protection of federal property and functions

I**********n or r*******n

When the execution of state or federal laws are obstructed or prevented, such that the rights of citizens are denied or the course of justice is impeded

The National Guard when acting under authority of the state governor.
They have ruled on it several times. Even i*****l ... (show quote)


I get that but I still feel this is unclear, and don't think that the heritage foundation is the gold star source for everything conservative, they more often than not write from an establishment perspective. Although it is true that i******s are afforded constitutional protections they are not treated with the full protections of our constitution that American citizens or legal residents are. I find it to be very unclear that our military can not protect border security.

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