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Kamala Harris Pledges to Use Federal Money to Raise Teachers Salaries in Each State by $13,500
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Mar 29, 2019 09:20:18   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I have missed your point.


That's pretty common for you, so I'm not surprised.

Let me dumb it down some.

Teachers are paid exactly what their community decides to pay them. The community elects the folks who determine how much the v**ers are taxed, how that money is used, and most relevant to this discussion, compensation of it's employees, including teachers. If they are spending it on administration and bling, the slice of pie is smaller for teachers.

Most importantly in all of this though, the teacher doesn't have to work there if they don't like the pay, they can even strike.

Also keep in mind the fact that most all workers believe they should be paid more, even the jackels we elect to office, who in my opinion should be paid no more than GS-9 scale.

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Mar 29, 2019 09:33:48   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
WNYShooter wrote:
That's pretty common for you, so I'm not surprised.

Let me dumb it down some.

Teachers are paid exactly what their community decides to pay them. The community elects the folks who determine how much the v**ers are taxed, how that money is used, and most relevant to this discussion, compensation of it's employees, including teachers. If they are spending it on administration and bling, the slice of pie is smaller for teachers.

Most importantly in all of this though, the teacher doesn't have to work there if they don't like the pay, they can even strike.

Also keep in mind the fact that most all workers believe they should be paid more, even the jackels we elect to office, who in my opinion should be paid no more than GS-9 scale.
That's pretty common for you, so I'm not surprised... (show quote)


I'd say that is pretty accurate. One thing though about teacher strikes. Most teachers are public employees and for most, if not all, it is illegal for public employees to strike albeit they do anyway with usually no repercussions.

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Mar 29, 2019 09:40:38   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
WNYShooter wrote:
They chose that profession knowing it's requirements and compensation, not to mention joining a union to do it. I don't feel sorry for them, they can always use their education to pursue better paying opportunity.



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Mar 29, 2019 09:55:42   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
idaholover wrote:
I'd say that is pretty accurate. One thing though about teacher strikes. Most teachers are public employees and for most, if not all, it is illegal for public employees to strike albeit they do anyway with usually no repercussions.


Not illegal in all states, only about 2/3rds.

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Mar 29, 2019 10:39:04   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Elaine2025 wrote:


That is a very good point. My youngest daughter has a Masters in Education. She taught for 5 years. She got tired of having to dumb down standards also the need to socially promote students who were not qualified. A 12-grade student in NYC has about a 9th-grade education. Wh**ever you do, do not ask them to write an essay about anything.
I remember reading in The Times a few years, that the CUNY college system had to offer remedial courses to approximately 3/4's of the incoming Freshman. All these students were High School grads.

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Mar 29, 2019 10:49:21   #
Angmo
 
Wait a minute.

If we give free education to all, we no longer have to pay teachers. They will work for free.

Lefties always have really good ideas.

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Mar 29, 2019 10:49:50   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Frank T wrote:
Blurry, That's like saying that Consultant who gets paid $2,000 dollars a day is making 620,000 dollars a year. That's not the way it works.
When a school day ends, the teachers day doesn't. Most of them are working at home, marking tests, preparing lesson plans and doing research.
Personally, I'd prefer my taxes go to paying teachers as opposed to dropping bombs on civilians. But hey, that's just me.


Well if you knew what you were talking about you might have a point. What do they do the two months school is closed? There are a least two one week "breaks".
I think if you add the average school year it comes to about 180 days. Don't forget they get health insurance prescription insurance eye care and dental. Not to mention a pension.
The problem with education is not teachers or the amount of money you want to give them. It is the lack of two-parent families. The lack of parental involvement with their child. No amount of money will ever solve that problem.
The teacher doesn't go home with the child. But hey, that's just me.

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Mar 29, 2019 12:28:18   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
traderjohn wrote:
Well if you knew what you were talking about you might have a point. What do they do the two months school is closed? There are a least two one week "breaks".
I think if you add the average school year it comes to about 180 days. Don't forget they get health insurance prescription insurance eye care and dental. Not to mention a pension.
The problem with education is not teachers or the amount of money you want to give them. It is the lack of two-parent families. The lack of parental involvement with their child. No amount of money will ever solve that problem.
The teacher doesn't go home with the child. But hey, that's just me.
Well if you knew what you were talking about you m... (show quote)


Also very good points!!! Heck, up until a couple years ago, Buffalo teachers had an unlimited elective plastic surgery rider. The district was paying upwards of $5M year on boob jobs, tummy tucks, face lifts, and etc.. They eliminated it in the most recent contract, but retirees are still eligible for the perk, although they are taxed on it now.

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Mar 29, 2019 14:10:07   #
Angmo
 
traderjohn wrote:
Well if you knew what you were talking about you might have a point. What do they do the two months school is closed? There are a least two one week "breaks".
I think if you add the average school year it comes to about 180 days. Don't forget they get health insurance prescription insurance eye care and dental. Not to mention a pension.
The problem with education is not teachers or the amount of money you want to give them. It is the lack of two-parent families. The lack of parental involvement with their child. No amount of money will ever solve that problem.
The teacher doesn't go home with the child. But hey, that's just me.
Well if you knew what you were talking about you m... (show quote)


Maybe we should only increase pay for those who teach t***h, 3 Rs and real history and Fire the l*****t bastards.

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Mar 29, 2019 14:31:55   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Angmo wrote:
Maybe we should only increase pay for those who teach t***h, 3 Rs and real history and Fire the l*****t bastards.


Yes, Of course. Let's turn the kids into the little N**is that you admire so.
Meanwhile, Chesty is turning in his grave over your use of his image.

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Mar 29, 2019 17:38:56   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Frank T wrote:
Yes, Of course. Let's turn the kids into the little N**is that you admire so.
Meanwhile, Chesty is turning in his grave over your use of his image.


How sad you are. Your bigotry, your prejudices, your biases, your intolerance cannot allow for another view without your false labeling. You are so hung up on the word; N**is. It seems you need this level of h**e.

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Mar 29, 2019 18:05:19   #
Angmo
 
Frank T wrote:
Yes, Of course. Let's turn the kids into the little N**is that you admire so.
Meanwhile, Chesty is turning in his grave over your use of his image.


N**is are lefties. We fire them. Read much?

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Mar 31, 2019 10:05:58   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Angmo wrote:
N**is are lefties. We fire them. Read much?


Mo, I'm tired of trying to teach you that F*****m is a right-wing government.
Although all the history books and political science books and history, in general, agrees with me, I'll let you live in your little world where you're a hero and the progressives are the bad guys.
Does that make you feel better?
I hope so.

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Mar 31, 2019 12:01:39   #
Angmo
 
Frank T wrote:
Yes, Of course. Let's turn the kids into the little N**is that you admire so.
Meanwhile, Chesty is turning in his grave over your use of his image.


N**is are lefties. So problem solved.

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Mar 31, 2019 12:03:56   #
Angmo
 
Frank T wrote:
Mo, I'm tired of trying to teach you that F*****m is a right-wing government.
Although all the history books and political science books and history, in general, agrees with me, I'll let you live in your little world where you're a hero and the progressives are the bad guys.
Does that make you feel better?
I hope so.


No one agrees with your lies. Read a book. In fact the book is “The Big Lie”. That will prove, with documentation lefties of all flavors are lefties. N**i, f*****t, c****e, marxist, socialist..progressive, Dems, liberal..... are all lefties.

N**is did scale back on the Democrat r****m model though in going after Jews. Dems went too far. So N**is backed down on r****m. It’s documented.

Ignorance of t***h and fact is a real strength in your part.

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