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Mar 26, 2019 12:23:30   #
BebuLamar
 
amfoto1 wrote:
$240 is one of the more affordable flash/incidence meters. Many of them run $300 to $600.

That said, there currently are the Sekonic L308 that costs about $219, and the Gossen Digiflash 2 selling for $184.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?setNs=p_PRICE_2%7c0&Ns=p_PRICE_2%7c0&sortType=default&ci=900&fct=fct_lightmeter-type_1792%7cflash&srtclk=sort&N=4077634543&

If you shop used, you might find something more affordable, but be careful. Some older flash/incidence meters dating from the days of film have limited ranges that makes them a bit less convenient for digital.

Some years ago I bought a used Sekonic L358 for around $200. It is a recent-enough model that's been updated with ranges appropriate for digital. It also can be set up to show 1/10 stop, 1/3 stop or 1/2 stop increments, and more. The L358 is a now-discontinued model similar to the L308, except that the L358 can optionally be fitted with radio modules for certain wireless triggering systems. I've got modules for Radio Popper and PocketWizard systems that fit the L358. Now the least expensive flash/incidence meter I'm aware or that has wireless triggering is the Sekonic L478 that starts around $365. In addition, it doesn't use interchangeable modules. Instead it's dedicated to work only with one system or another.

Brands I'm familiar with and comfortable recommending include Sekonic, Kenko and Gossen. I'm not as familiar with them, but Shepard/Polaris seem fine, too.

In the past I've used several Minolta models, too (IIIF and VF). Some of these later were sold under the Konica-Minolta name, after the two merged in 2003. In 2006 Sony bought the photography division of Konica-Minolta, but spun off the light meters to Kenko, who still manufacture them today.

The old Minolta, along with Sekonic, Gossen and others from the same time period, are examples of meters that were originally designed for use with film, which have limited ISO ranges by today's standards and may have some other limitations. They certainly can work, just aren't as ideal for use with digital as a modern meter might be. KEH has more than 20 used flash meters:

https://www.keh.com/shop/search/?q=flash+meter&productFilter=category%3Alight%20meters%3B%3BinStock%3Ayes

(Years ago I had one of those Wein meters KEH is asking all of $14 for... VERY basic.)

Adorama and B&H have some, too:

https://www.adorama.com/l/Used/?sel=brand_Minolta&searchinfo=flash%2Bmeter
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?sts=ma&setNs=p_PRICE_2%7c0&Ns=p_PRICE_2%7c0&sortType=default&usedSearch=1&srtclk=sort&N=0&Ntt=flash+meter[/url]

There also a bunch of flash meters on Amazon... though a lot of them are brands I've never heard of. I'm also a bit wary of buying on eBay, though sometimes there are great deals there.

EDIT:

While radio/wireless triggering is convenient and eliminates some wires that people might trip over... all flash meters I'm aware of without that feature have a PC socket for WIRED triggering. You just need a long sync cord, which you may be using anyway, to connect to your camera.
$240 is one of the more affordable flash/incidence... (show quote)


I have a very old Minolta flashmeter III but it has ISO up to 3200. I don't think one would need to shoot flash at higher ISO than 3200.

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Mar 26, 2019 12:34:49   #
Haydon
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
TTL flash metering can work ok for using one or more Speedlites, especially if they are radio controlled.


Okay is the key word here. Unfortunately TTL doesn't offer consistent work. It really depends on the results you are looking for. Those working in TTL will often find the setting they like in TTL and then go to manual for consistent flash power. I know Profoto & Godox have that feature. I'm glad you tapped in Todd, you helped me in my early stages with metering and I'm grateful as always for your undivided assistance in my studio journey.

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Mar 26, 2019 12:49:14   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
CO wrote:
If you're using a speedlight, your camera and flash can do TTL metering. It's not absolutely necessary to have a light meter.

I use a Sekonic L-478DR ($379) with my studio strobes. I bought the model that has the built-in PocketWizard module. It's a great light meter - the first to have a touch screen. Sekonic has lower priced models as well such as the L-308 for $219.

Here are the ambient light and flash modes. For your speedlight you would use mode 7 or 8.


I use this same meter and find it very functional and accurate.

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Mar 26, 2019 13:19:11   #
scg3
 
You pick up a Quantum Calcu-Flash II on eBay for less than $50 or a Gossen Ascor flash meter for under $100. Both are old but if they're in good shape they'll do the job and save you a bundle.

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Mar 26, 2019 14:51:44   #
penndragonn
 
amfoto1 wrote:
$240 is one of the more affordable flash/incidence meters. Many of them run $300 to $600.

That said, there currently are the Sekonic L308 that costs about $219, and the Gossen Digiflash 2 selling for $184.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?setNs=p_PRICE_2%7c0&Ns=p_PRICE_2%7c0&sortType=default&ci=900&fct=fct_lightmeter-type_1792%7cflash&srtclk=sort&N=4077634543&

If you shop used, you might find something more affordable, but be careful. Some older flash/incidence meters dating from the days of film have limited ranges that makes them a bit less convenient for digital.

Some years ago I bought a used Sekonic L358 for around $200. It is a recent-enough model that's been updated with ranges appropriate for digital. It also can be set up to show 1/10 stop, 1/3 stop or 1/2 stop increments, and more. The L358 is a now-discontinued model similar to the L308, except that the L358 can optionally be fitted with radio modules for certain wireless triggering systems. I've got modules for Radio Popper and PocketWizard systems that fit the L358. Now the least expensive flash/incidence meter I'm aware or that has wireless triggering is the Sekonic L478 that starts around $365. In addition, it doesn't use interchangeable modules. Instead it's dedicated to work only with one system or another.

Brands I'm familiar with and comfortable recommending include Sekonic, Kenko and Gossen. I'm not as familiar with them, but Shepard/Polaris seem fine, too.

In the past I've used several Minolta models, too (IIIF and VF). Some of these later were sold under the Konica-Minolta name, after the two merged in 2003. In 2006 Sony bought the photography division of Konica-Minolta, but spun off the light meters to Kenko, who still manufacture them today.

The old Minolta, along with Sekonic, Gossen and others from the same time period, are examples of meters that were originally designed for use with film, which have limited ISO ranges by today's standards and may have some other limitations. They certainly can work, just aren't as ideal for use with digital as a modern meter might be. KEH has more than 20 used flash meters:

https://www.keh.com/shop/search/?q=flash+meter&productFilter=category%3Alight%20meters%3B%3BinStock%3Ayes

(Years ago I had one of those Wein meters KEH is asking all of $14 for... VERY basic.)

Adorama and B&H have some, too:

https://www.adorama.com/l/Used/?sel=brand_Minolta&searchinfo=flash%2Bmeter
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?sts=ma&setNs=p_PRICE_2%7c0&Ns=p_PRICE_2%7c0&sortType=default&usedSearch=1&srtclk=sort&N=0&Ntt=flash+meter[/url]

There also a bunch of flash meters on Amazon... though a lot of them are brands I've never heard of. I'm also a bit wary of buying on eBay, though sometimes there are great deals there.

EDIT:

penndragonn,

While radio/wireless triggering is convenient and eliminates some wires that people might trip over... all flash meters I'm aware of without that feature have a PC socket for WIRED triggering. You just need a long sync cord, which you may be using anyway, to connect to your camera. The sync cord needs to be long enough that you can take the flash reading right where the subject will be located.
$240 is one of the more affordable flash/incidence... (show quote)


Yes, I have a very long sync cord. I'll give it a try. Thanks for the reply as with others.

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Mar 26, 2019 15:23:02   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
You are right Haydon, TTL is an easy tool but not the same as using a good handheld meter. Glad to help you but I bet you are more advanced than me now... I have not been shooting a lot in the past 18 months...too much life going on to deal with lately... But I will get back to it...

Haydon wrote:
Okay is the key word here. Unfortunately TTL doesn't offer consistent work. It really depends on the results you are looking for. Those working in TTL will often find the setting they like in TTL and then go to manual for consistent flash power. I know Profoto & Godox have that feature. I'm glad you tapped in Todd, you helped me in my early stages with metering and I'm grateful as always for your undivided assistance in my studio journey.

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Mar 26, 2019 15:48:59   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
I rely heavily on mine for portrait work, wedding work, and the occasional commercial work.

Unlike others, I just don't like the results with TTR, what the camera thinks I want as the final image, isn't always what I want to see in the final image. It's like the other modes on the camera, is it really easier if you have to keep fiddling with exposure compensation? I don't use manual everything because I'm smart or better than anyone, I just find it easier. Whatever works for you. The good thing is, an incident meter isn't fooled by a dark or light background.

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Mar 26, 2019 15:54:30   #
Bill P
 
Over a 40 year pro career, I discovered that incident light metering is highly accurate, but reflective needs careful interpretation.

Get a good used Minolta.

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Mar 26, 2019 16:37:36   #
Photocraig
 
If your flash photos and multi light work in particular is limited and as a favor, I think Babu (as usual) is correct. Chimping will nail your exposure, even with multiple manual lights in 3 or 4 tests. And, you can do the first 3 before the subjects are even in front of the camera. For general flashwork with a TTL dedicated flash, the exposures will come out very well.

I'd suggest spending the $200++ on modifiers or reflectors or V-flats (look it up).

All that said I wouldn't give up the flash meter I have--but would (and am) pressed to justify replacing it.

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Mar 26, 2019 18:29:36   #
CO
 
cjc2 wrote:
I use this same meter and find it very functional and accurate.


I had mine re-calibrated once. It seemed pretty accurate but I thought I would go ahead and have it re-calibrated. They did a firmware update at the same time. It seems just a little more accurate now. I think I contacted Sekonic first. It turns out that Mamiya does the calibration. If you need to get yours re-calibrated and the firmware updated, here is where you want to send it.


(Download)

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Mar 26, 2019 18:32:03   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
CO wrote:
I had mine re-calibrated once. It seemed pretty accurate but I thought I would go ahead and have it re-calibrated. They did a firmware update at the same time. It seems just a little more accurate now. I think I contacted Sekonic first. It turns out that Mamiya does the calibration. If you need to get yours re-calibrated and the firmware updated, here is where you want to send it.


Thanks. Years ago I sent a meter to them with a minor problem. They fixed it, quickly, no questions and no charge. Another very good company. Best of luck.

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Mar 26, 2019 19:01:00   #
John Maher Loc: Northern Virginia
 
I am also looking for a reasonable light meter and appreciate all the comments.

I am looking at the Sekonic L208 at around $130 if anyone is familiar with it or similar meters

I will use it for plant macrophotography with Nikon AIS 105/f/4 micro with natural light.

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Mar 26, 2019 19:14:38   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
John Maher wrote:
I am also looking for a reasonable light meter and appreciate all the comments.

I am looking at the Sekonic L208 at around $130 if anyone is familiar with it or similar meters

I will use it for plant macrophotography with Nikon AIS 105/f/4 micro with natural light.


Check with KEH.com to see what they might have. Best of luck.

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Mar 26, 2019 19:20:54   #
BebuLamar
 
John Maher wrote:
I am also looking for a reasonable light meter and appreciate all the comments.

I am looking at the Sekonic L208 at around $130 if anyone is familiar with it or similar meters

I will use it for plant macrophotography with Nikon AIS 105/f/4 micro with natural light.


If money is the problem I would buy a used one. The L208 I don't think is very useful. Besides what you want to do really doesn't need a meter.

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Mar 26, 2019 19:21:50   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
gofast wrote:
I went back to college to learn how to be better with the DSLR. (Was a film guy for 30 years). As you all know, there's a lot to learn.
That being said, my instructor does quite a bit using a light meter when composing shots for flash/portrait photography. The meter he uses costs about $240.
Does anyone know of an affordable light meter? I don't plan on going into portraiture, and wonder if I even need one when all I'll be using is a speed light. There will be times I'll be doing favors for friends & family taking family or holiday pix, but that's about it
Your advice please.

Old Rookie (lol)
I went back to college to learn how to be better w... (show quote)


I don't use studio strobes or speedlight very much anymore. When I do, I use an old Gossen Lunapro SBC and it's flash attachment. Not fancy, but very accurate. You can pick one up on eBay for around $60. I bought an SBC w/flash attachment and a second old-style LunaPro that used mercury batteries for $60. I keep them around mostly for nostalgic reasons.

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