Looking to buy PC laptop for photo editing
Mar 23, 2019 11:36:14 #
Mar 23, 2019 11:39:11 #
Larry Powell wrote:
Professionals use Apple. Their jobs and income depend on results. Laptops are not good for editing images. The resolution and screen size is too limiting.
Apple monitors have PERFECT color out of the box and retain it.
Apple monitors have PERFECT color out of the box and retain it.
Nonsense on everything your wrote, except for the part about editing on a laptop screen.
Apple displays are made by Samsung and LG, and are not "perfect" out of the box. I have had to fine tune every one I've seen (among my students and mentorees) for color and brightness. And like any digital display, they drift and must be re-profiled regularly.
Windows machines with 10 bit graphics cards (workstation cards) along with true 10 bit wide gamut displays like Eizo and HP Dreamcolor are pretty much the standard in corporate graphics color grading rooms when absolute color fidelity is required. Macs similarly dominate in video and film production. You may want to look up what DCI-P3 and Adobe RGB color spaces are to get a better understanding as to why.
Not sure where you've gotten your information, but it's not based in any reality I am aware of.
Mar 23, 2019 11:40:24 #
wapiti wrote:
Gene is "da man", IMO. Had a PC built to his specifications and it is a "killer". Less than $2K.
Mar 23, 2019 11:44:58 #
Haydon wrote:
Great explanation Gene. Your impartial and objective points make this unarguable.
Mar 23, 2019 12:00:50 #
MacBook Pro. for sure. If price is a factor, check out Apples Reconditioned computers on their website.
Mar 23, 2019 12:43:20 #
Lfyoung59 wrote:
Hi all. I have recently renewed my interest in pho... (show quote)
I strongly dislike laptops for photo editing because the track pad, embedded at the bottom of the keyboard, is difficult/inconvenient to use for photo-editing. Desk tops will have larger screens and larger & moveable track pads more suitable for photo editing. BTW, I also migrated to Apple several years ago with few and insignificant regrets.
Mar 23, 2019 12:53:46 #
LouK wrote:
I strongly dislike laptops for photo editing because the track pad, embedded at the bottom of the keyboard, is difficult/inconvenient to use for photo-editing. Desk tops will have larger screens and larger & moveable track pads more suitable for photo editing. BTW, I also migrated to Apple several years ago with few and insignificant regrets.
The trackpad is easily disabled...
Mar 23, 2019 13:14:35 #
Just Fred wrote:
I too, am a Mac guy, but what you can get for $800 will likely be an older model or a refurb (the best deal going!). For photography/editing, there are for me two considerations: memory and screen resolution. You will want the ability to calibrate your display to the proper RGB color space, and you will want enough memory to process photos without having to wait for every operation. I've used 8GB, but I strongly recommend 16GB (or more).
He said he didn't use Mac.
Mar 23, 2019 14:51:46 #
Dikdik
Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
Larry Powell wrote:
Professionals use Apple. Their jobs and income depend on results. Laptops are not good for editing images. The resolution and screen size is too limiting.
My son worked as a senior Apple tech guy for several years... and, most of the senior tech guys used PCs for their home machine.
Dik
Mar 23, 2019 15:00:41 #
Dikdik
Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
Shellback wrote:
The trackpad is easily disabled...
Do a search on 'disable laptop touchpad' and several options will pop up... also, some laptops have a 'button' or a 'Function' to disable the touchpad.
Dik
Mar 23, 2019 15:07:54 #
Dikdik wrote:
My son worked as a senior Apple tech guy for several years... and, most of the senior tech guys used PCs for their home machine.
Dik
Dik
The dirty little secret is out!
It's truly amazing, how whenever anyone says they need a laptop or a computer there is a whole cohort of Apple fanatics, that regardless of budget, application(s), and even stated preference for Windows computers will always come out with an Apple recommendation that is a)over budget, b)not appropriate, c)state mythical "facts" like Apple displays are perfect out of the box and never need adjustment, or they will still be running 40 yrs down the road, or they never get viruses, or they switched 25 yrs ago from a crappy PC and, I love this statement "never looked back." Truth is that Macs and PCs have undergone a considerable amont of convergence, and what may have been true 20 yrs ago is no longer the case. Both use Intel processors, but PCs can use AMD, both use industry standard drives made by one of the two companies manufacturing drives (or one of their subsidiaries), they use the same memory modules, etc etc etc. - and they suffer from viruses and malware attacks now that they are getting more popular. So what is the difference? Macs are not specialized for graphics per se, but they are "specialized" for general lifestyle applications, movie and audio streaming, and exceptionally good connectivity between all the products in the Apple ecological system. Apple enjoys about 12% market share of the personal computing market. PCs are open architecture, can be configured for any specific purpose(s), and are a lot less expensive, even in a specialized form. Otherwise, you load your applications, generate and save data, and the experience is pretty much identical these days. Those souls that have lost their rear view mirror or have spinal fusion all the way up and down their spine and won't/can't look back are pretty much living in an alternate reality. Seriously . . .
I can't imagine someone spending good money for an old, under-powered computer - Mac or PC - ever. Even the new entry level stuff is better than the old stuff. Oh, and btw, backlights on flat screens has a half life of about 6 yrs, when the brightness continues to dim below acceptability. Something to consider when buying a used laptop.
Mar 23, 2019 15:50:58 #
Dikdik
Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
Gene51 wrote:
The dirty little secret is out!
If you like to tinker with tech stuff... the Apple is not the machine of choice. I'm not an Apple user, but, people that use them are happy with the 'simplicity' of use; they make excellent tools. Until recently, the Apple display was the one that many people loved about them. Their software and hardware are well regulated and dependable (mostly).
Gene51 wrote:
Those souls that have lost their rear view mirror or have spinal fusion all the way up and down their spine and won't/can't look back are pretty much living in an alternate reality. Seriously . . .
...when the brightness continues to dim below acceptability. Something to consider when buying a used laptop.
...when the brightness continues to dim below acceptability. Something to consider when buying a used laptop.
and, all the time I thought it was my eyesight... About 10 years back, I decided on my 'final' build... I'm currently on my third final build... all my machines are far beyond me... I'm just a tekkie junkie.
Dik
Mar 23, 2019 16:00:59 #
Dikdik wrote:
and, all the time I thought it was my eyesight... About 10 years back, I decided on my 'final' build... I'm currently on my third final build... all my machines are far beyond me... I'm just a tekkie junkie.
Dik
Dik
Once I nail down my config, I tinker during the build, and then it is absolute simplicity - turn it on, it works. I built my current machine in 2011, but I updated memory to 32 gb, cpu to a K version so I could overclock, and HD storage to a 1 TB SSD for system drive, and an internal 8 TB RAID 0+1 for image storage. It is still very fast, even by today's standards.
I don't like to wait for stuff to happen on the computer. When new software comes on the market that brings my machine to a crawl, then I might consider replacement. Maybe. . .
Mar 23, 2019 16:41:05 #
Dikdik
Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
Gene51 wrote:
cpu to a K version so I could overclock
My son's tekkie nerd in Northeast US, offered to send me his 'delidding kit' so I could modify the processor to max overclock. The kit removes the top metallic cover from the processor for extra cooling. My son's into that level, and, is a gamer nut. All my machines can be overclocked... but, other than try once for about a 30% improvement, out of curiosity, I'm not into that.
Dik
Mar 23, 2019 17:24:57 #
Dikdik wrote:
My son's tekkie nerd in Northeast US, offered to send me his 'delidding kit' so I could modify the processor to max overclock. The kit removes the top metallic cover from the processor for extra cooling. My son's into that level, and, is a gamer nut. All my machines can be overclocked... but, other than try once for about a 30% improvement, out of curiosity, I'm not into that.
Dik
Dik
I had an IT business for 25 yrs, since 1983. Must have personally built 2000 computers - mostly high end graphics workstations, engineering 3D simulation, Video and CGI. I guess your son and I have some things in common - I was from NYC, and a tekkie nerd of sorts. But, never once did I have a request for a Mac. Not even a Mac Pro before they went with the "Trash Can" styling.
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