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Anyone using a Canon EOS RP? I would appreciate any thoughts on it.
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Mar 17, 2019 15:31:47   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Haydon wrote:
Weight saving only really becomes noticeable with micro four-thirds. Look at the new RF lenses. They aren't notieably light in fact the 28-70 F2 weighs only 2/10 of a lb. less than a 70-200 2.8L II. The real benefit of mirrorless is compact size and WYSIWYG when making an image. A smaller attribute is IQ which supposedly comes from the lens distance to the sensor.

Also LFingar claims autofocus accuracy and certainly the number of focus points spreading out across the viewfinder to encourage better images being made under paper thin DOF conditions. There are shortcomings to focus & recompose.
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You're comparing a short ultrafast zoom with a slower medium tele zoom, Haydon … not really a fair comparison … the 6D2 only provides - what - 95-98% of the actual view. But, ALL other FF cameras, and the 7D2 and 80D too - provide 100% … so, there really isn't a dearth of WYSIWYG Canon bodies around!

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Mar 17, 2019 15:41:36   #
djlouden Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
Chris T wrote:
Sounds like you're yet another "overall satisfied" recent RP purchaser, DJ … only thing that bothers me which you wrote (apart from the remark about the EVF blacking out, between shots) is the thing about you not choosing to replace any of your DSLRs. And, here, I had thought - this was the whole point in the exercise - buy Mirrorless, and replace one's heavy DSLRs, with a comparable - overall lighter - camera!!


I think replacing one or more of my DSLR's is a future work in progress. But as of yet the current offerings have not pushed me in that direction and even though I've been dipping my toes in to test the waters, it's one toe at a time at the moment. I considered the EOS R but after reading Ken Rockwell's glowing review of the RP I decided to go that route for now. I'm certain Canon has plenty of candy planned for the future and we'll see where that leads. I'm headed to retirement later this year so I'll have to limit my G.A.S. attacks down the road and stand by and watch as all the folks with more money than me give their experiences and opinions.

Happy shooting

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Mar 17, 2019 15:49:53   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
djlouden wrote:
I think replacing one or more of my DSLR's is a future work in progress. But as of yet the current offerings have not pushed me in that direction and even though I've been dipping my toes in to test the waters, it's one toe at a time at the moment. I considered the EOS R but after reading Ken Rockwell's glowing review of the RP I decided to go that route for now. I'm certain Canon has plenty of candy planned for the future and we'll see where that leads. I'm headed to retirement later this year so I'll have to limit my G.A.S. attacks down the road and stand by and watch as all the folks with more money than me give their experiences and opinions.

Happy shooting
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Good idea, DJ … let those who have such money to spare for a $3-4G camera - spend it, and then come on here to let us all know whether they considered it to be a worthwhile experience, and those of us who can barely afford just over a grand for a camera - chomp in the bits - as we realize but for another two grand or so - there go we …. I personally think the RP is a great choice … a good compromise for all!!!!

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Mar 17, 2019 16:21:47   #
LPigott Loc: Monterey Peninsula, CA
 
johnbhome2 wrote:
I have been using the "RP" for almost two weeks now. The only problem I have had which isn't a problem has been getting used to the EVF. The blackout between shots still freaks me out but I am getting a hand on it. I have used every lens I have on it which includes a Sigma 50mm f1.4 without a problem other than I had to turn off all camera corrections when using the Sigma. I have been very pleased with my results so far but I am still testing it out in various ways. I have shot almost 300 pictures on the first charging of the battery. Battery life has been somewhat of a surprise to me. I expected worse. I only have two ef-s lenses which I use on my 80D. The RP automatically crops both lenses which results in images between 10 and 11 megapixels. Still, the fact that you can use these lenses without a vignette problem on a full frame camera is a plus. I just purchased the RF 35mm F1.8 lens in keeping with the smallish size factor as well as price. I will let folks know how it goes as I expect delivery of said lens this tuesday. The bottom line for me is I call the "RP" my baby "R". If you like the Canon "R" you will like the Canon "RP". No ifs, ands, or buts.......
I have been using the "RP" for almost tw... (show quote)


Any chance you could post some images from your “RP?” Comparing them with your 80D?

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Mar 17, 2019 16:33:23   #
Haydon
 
Chris T wrote:
You're comparing a short ultrafast zoom with a slower medium tele zoom, Haydon … not really a fair comparison … the 6D2 only provides - what - 95-98% of the actual view. But, ALL other FF cameras, and the 7D2 and 80D too - provide 100% … so, there really isn't a dearth of WYSIWYG Canon bodies around!


The glass with Canon's mirrorless isn't weight saving, it still hefty. The camera body is only half of the equation. There is little saved in weight with the whole package when you use two comparable lenses below.

Canon RF 50mm f/1.2L USM Lens = 2.1 lb / 950 g
Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM Lens = 1.3 lb / 580 g

THE WYSIWG is what comes from a viewfinder as a finished product. You won't get that out of a DSLR. This nullifies chimping,

As stated, IQ improves with the flange differences and the size of the package is what most people see. Sony loves using the angle of size as a selling point.

Care to revise?

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Mar 17, 2019 17:03:41   #
Haydon
 
 

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Mar 17, 2019 17:13:36   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Haydon wrote:
The glass with Canon's mirrorless isn't weight saving, it still hefty. The camera body is only half of the equation. There is little saved in weight with the whole package when you use two comparable lenses below.

Canon RF 50mm f/1.2L USM Lens = 2.1 lb / 950 g
Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM Lens = 1.3 lb / 580 g

THE WYSIWG is what comes from a viewfinder as a finished product. You won't get that out of a DSLR. This nullifies chimping,

As stated, IQ improves with the flange differences and the size of the package is what most people see. Sony loves using the angle of size as a selling point.

Care to revise?
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What would you like me to revise, Haydon?

As you can see in my Signature, below - I already use EVFs in my SLTs … so I am well aware of both the advantages, and - the disadvantages. But, I prefer them over MILCs, any-day - as you have the best of BOTH worlds - the EVFs you get on MILCs and the familiarity, one acquires with many years, using DSLRs.

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Mar 17, 2019 17:16:08   #
Haydon
 
Chris T wrote:
What would you like me to revise, Haydon?.


Weight saving? It's MINIMAL when using that set of comparable lenses & factoring in bodies.

We weren't comparing SLT's either, I thought your words were DSLR originally :)

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Mar 17, 2019 17:34:40   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Haydon wrote:
Weight saving? It's MINIMAL when using that set of comparable lenses & factoring in bodies.

We weren't comparing SLT's either, I thought your words were DSLR originally :)


Don't really have anything to add on that score, Haydon …

The 60D is the largest and heaviest DSLR I ever bought - wanted it not only for its superior pro-level features - at the time - but, also - because I could see from the weight and dimensions it was quite a bit larger and heavier than all other DSLRs I had considered, heretofore, and it was a test of my own ability to handle a camera that large. Glad I did it, too - as I now know NOT to buy anything bigger, nor heavier!!

With regard to my SLTs - they are identical to other DSLRs - in every way - in how they perform, except you have an EVF, and the composition is always seen, even when you depress the shutter. Something - which, apparently - the RP doesn't do. Which is another reason why I'd prefer to stay with my SLTs.

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Mar 17, 2019 20:37:18   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Chris T wrote:
Jimmy … glad you're happy with the RP … from what I've read - a damned fine camera. And, it sure is nice to have a FF camera, at last - which has the fully-articulating screen - so you don't have to bend down to get those angled shots, one invariably chooses to make. Better for your knees and back, eh?

Just one thing … I have now - two dozen digital cameras - a dozen bridges, and a dozen DSLRs - and not a ONE - lacks scene modes. They ALL have 'em. But, it most certainly is gratifying and reassuring to see a new camera you've just bought - duplicates that feature you like in an older camera. As already pointed out - the RP is a Mirrorless version of the 6D2 - which, itself - is a follow-on to your 6D - which lacks the fully-articulating screen - both of the newer models have (6D2, R, and your RP.) Hopefully, in time - Canon will integrate this highly desirable feature into ALL of its current cameras. Wait and see!!!!
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Mar 17, 2019 21:53:59   #
Selene03
 
I have had the RP a couple of weeks now, but haven't had a lot of opportunity to use it. My initial impression is that I really like it. I got both the rf 24-105 F4 lens and the 35 mm 1.8 lens. They are both terrific. I think the others here have pretty much summarized my initial reaction to it although I have not been bothered at all by the evf blackout. I have found the playback display a little fussy, but I suspect that is my lack of familiarity with the camera. I too got this as a hiking and travel camera and am pretty convinced it will be great for both. I get that it is not that much lighter and smaller when you add some of the lenses, but it feels significantly lighter and more manageable to me. I really like framing with ff cameras--to be able to do that with a camera that is smaller than the sl2 I use in my kayak is kind of amazing. I have included two photos--the poppies were taken with the rf 24-105 lens and the the croissant with the 35 mm lens. I processed the poppies some to play with it, but I didn't do much except crop on the other one. I probably punched up the colors too much in the first one, but this will give you some idea of the photos from the camera.





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Mar 17, 2019 23:47:09   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Selene03 wrote:
I have had the RP a couple of weeks now, but haven't had a lot of opportunity to use it. My initial impression is that I really like it. I got both the rf 24-105 F4 lens and the 35 mm 1.8 lens. They are both terrific. I think the others here have pretty much summarized my initial reaction to it although I have not been bothered at all by the evf blackout. I have found the playback display a little fussy, but I suspect that is my lack of familiarity with the camera. I too got this as a hiking and travel camera and am pretty convinced it will be great for both. I get that it is not that much lighter and smaller when you add some of the lenses, but it feels significantly lighter and more manageable to me. I really like framing with ff cameras--to be able to do that with a camera that is smaller than the sl2 I use in my kayak is kind of amazing. I have included two photos--the poppies were taken with the rf 24-105 lens and the the croissant with the 35 mm lens. I processed the poppies some to play with it, but I didn't do much except crop on the other one. I probably punched up the colors too much in the first one, but this will give you some idea of the photos from the camera.
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Very nice examples.

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Mar 18, 2019 00:46:19   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
Selene03 wrote:
I have had the RP a couple of weeks now, but haven't had a lot of opportunity to use it. My initial impression is that I really like it. I got both the rf 24-105 F4 lens and the 35 mm 1.8 lens. They are both terrific. I think the others here have pretty much summarized my initial reaction to it although I have not been bothered at all by the evf blackout. I have found the playback display a little fussy, but I suspect that is my lack of familiarity with the camera. I too got this as a hiking and travel camera and am pretty convinced it will be great for both. I get that it is not that much lighter and smaller when you add some of the lenses, but it feels significantly lighter and more manageable to me. I really like framing with ff cameras--to be able to do that with a camera that is smaller than the sl2 I use in my kayak is kind of amazing. I have included two photos--the poppies were taken with the rf 24-105 lens and the the croissant with the 35 mm lens. I processed the poppies some to play with it, but I didn't do much except crop on the other one. I probably punched up the colors too much in the first one, but this will give you some idea of the photos from the camera.
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Nice on both photos! Was the poppies photo taken at Lake Elsinore?

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Mar 18, 2019 01:39:45   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Selene03 wrote:
I have had the RP a couple of weeks now, but haven't had a lot of opportunity to use it. My initial impression is that I really like it. I got both the rf 24-105 F4 lens and the 35 mm 1.8 lens. They are both terrific. I think the others here have pretty much summarized my initial reaction to it although I have not been bothered at all by the evf blackout. I have found the playback display a little fussy, but I suspect that is my lack of familiarity with the camera. I too got this as a hiking and travel camera and am pretty convinced it will be great for both. I get that it is not that much lighter and smaller when you add some of the lenses, but it feels significantly lighter and more manageable to me. I really like framing with ff cameras--to be able to do that with a camera that is smaller than the sl2 I use in my kayak is kind of amazing. I have included two photos--the poppies were taken with the rf 24-105 lens and the the croissant with the 35 mm lens. I processed the poppies some to play with it, but I didn't do much except crop on the other one. I probably punched up the colors too much in the first one, but this will give you some idea of the photos from the camera.
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Neat Strawberry Croissant, there, Selene … was it as delicious as it looks? .. Looks absolutely scrumptious!

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Mar 18, 2019 16:08:47   #
Selene03
 
Thanks everyone! Yes, the poppies were taken at Lake Elsinore, but during the week before things got crazy. And, yes, the croissant was really good!!! Thanks again!

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