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Mar 16, 2019 13:12:31   #
KeEdNel
 
I am presently using a 6D MKII and a 80D. Both are great with the 6D MKII being favorite. I am looking at adding an EOS RP for travel and to use my existing EF Lenses. If anyone has one I would appreciate you review of the camera.

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Mar 16, 2019 13:51:43   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Add me to your interest list also. Tks

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Mar 16, 2019 14:36:44   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Looks like high-end full frame mirrorless cameras are becoming more affordable, at around $1200.00, what's not to like?

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Mar 16, 2019 16:03:54   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
KeEdNel wrote:
I am presently using a 6D MKII and a 80D. Both are great with the 6D MKII being favorite. I am looking at adding an EOS RP for travel and to use my existing EF Lenses. If anyone has one I would appreciate you review of the camera.


The EOS RP and the 6DII share the same sensor, just as the EOS R and the 5DIV also share the same sensor. I don't have an RP or a 6DII, but, I do have an R and a 5DIV so I can see similarities and I believe that my experiences with the R will give you an idea of what to expect from the RP vs the 6DII.
First off, the auto focus with the R is superior to the 5DIV. It is more accurate and more consistent. Both the R and RP have thousands of auto focus points. In comparison, your 6DII has 45, and, the auto focus system works in a different manner, eliminating mirrors and a focus sensor. The result is better auto focus. That was one of the first things I noticed when I got my R.
The RF 24-105 f/4 L IS lens is superb and I find that all of my EF lenses perform better on the R. With the EF/RF lens adapter you can use ANY EF or EF-s lens ever made.
The R is highly customizeable and I would be surprised if the RP didn't share some of that.
The R uses the LP-E6N battery, just like your 6DII, but, the RP uses the smaller LP-E17, which might be a source of irritation since mirrorless cameras seem to be battery hogs, compared to most DSLR's. You would definitely want at least one spare battery, I would think.
There are 4 different EF/RF lens adapters, priced at $99, $199, $299, and $399. They are just spacers, no optics. The 1st one is the most basic. The next one includes a control ring. I have that one and find it handy. The 3rd and 4th ones have provisions for various filters.
You always see people writing about balance, which mystifies me. I use my both my R and 5DIV, hand held, on everything from a small, lightweight, EF 85mm f/1.8 prime to my EF 100-400 L II with extender and have yet to notice anything about balance. It's just not an issue to me but obviously it bothers some people.
The EVF is a plus because of the amount of info you can show if you wish. After learning the buttons and wheels I never have to take my eye off the viewfinder to change almost any setting. I can change the focus point simply by moving my right thumb over the rear display while viewing the EVF.
I believe that the RP has a slightly slower burst rate then the 6DII, but I doubt it is enough to make much difference. If you are shooting something that requires a high frame rate then the 7DII would be the one.
After getting my 5DIV I eventually sold my 7DII because I found that I just wasn't using it, despite it's advantages in some areas. Now, I am beginning to wonder if I should sell my 5DIV because I definitely prefer the EOS R. I'll keep it as a spare, of course, but.......

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Mar 17, 2019 07:38:52   #
johnbhome2 Loc: Wyoming, Michigan
 
I have been using the "RP" for almost two weeks now. The only problem I have had which isn't a problem has been getting used to the EVF. The blackout between shots still freaks me out but I am getting a hand on it. I have used every lens I have on it which includes a Sigma 50mm f1.4 without a problem other than I had to turn off all camera corrections when using the Sigma. I have been very pleased with my results so far but I am still testing it out in various ways. I have shot almost 300 pictures on the first charging of the battery. Battery life has been somewhat of a surprise to me. I expected worse. I only have two ef-s lenses which I use on my 80D. The RP automatically crops both lenses which results in images between 10 and 11 megapixels. Still, the fact that you can use these lenses without a vignette problem on a full frame camera is a plus. I just purchased the RF 35mm F1.8 lens in keeping with the smallish size factor as well as price. I will let folks know how it goes as I expect delivery of said lens this tuesday. The bottom line for me is I call the "RP" my baby "R". If you like the Canon "R" you will like the Canon "RP". No ifs, ands, or buts.......

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Mar 17, 2019 07:55:09   #
khorinek
 
I just bought the EOS RP. I love it! The image quality is great, the Auto ISO goes up to 1600 with flash compared to 400 in the other Canon Cameras, You see what you are getting in the viewfinder, (I really like that), it is quiet, I like the face detection focus, The menus system is easy to use, the camera is programmable to your needs just like the Mark IV, it is light weight, I haven't found any negatives yet, except one thing. When I am shooting outside in bright sunlight, the viewfinder goes dark, I haven't figure out how to get the viewfinder to stay bright. Other than that, I love it!

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Mar 17, 2019 07:56:40   #
khorinek
 
I expected 200 - 250 shots on battery, so I bought another battery. I got 368 shots on one battery charge, I was very surprised and pleased.

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Mar 17, 2019 09:24:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
johnbhome2 wrote:
I have been using the "RP" for almost two weeks now. The only problem I have had which isn't a problem has been getting used to the EVF. The blackout between shots still freaks me out but I am getting a hand on it. I have used every lens I have on it which includes a Sigma 50mm f1.4 without a problem other than I had to turn off all camera corrections when using the Sigma. I have been very pleased with my results so far but I am still testing it out in various ways. I have shot almost 300 pictures on the first charging of the battery. Battery life has been somewhat of a surprise to me. I expected worse. I only have two ef-s lenses which I use on my 80D. The RP automatically crops both lenses which results in images between 10 and 11 megapixels. Still, the fact that you can use these lenses without a vignette problem on a full frame camera is a plus. I just purchased the RF 35mm F1.8 lens in keeping with the smallish size factor as well as price. I will let folks know how it goes as I expect delivery of said lens this tuesday. The bottom line for me is I call the "RP" my baby "R". If you like the Canon "R" you will like the Canon "RP". No ifs, ands, or buts.......
I have been using the "RP" for almost tw... (show quote)



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Mar 17, 2019 09:25:29   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
khorinek wrote:
I just bought the EOS RP. I love it! The image quality is great, the Auto ISO goes up to 1600 with flash compared to 400 in the other Canon Cameras, You see what you are getting in the viewfinder, (I really like that), it is quiet, I like the face detection focus, The menus system is easy to use, the camera is programmable to your needs just like the Mark IV, it is light weight, I haven't found any negatives yet, except one thing. When I am shooting outside in bright sunlight, the viewfinder goes dark, I haven't figure out how to get the viewfinder to stay bright. Other than that, I love it!
I just bought the EOS RP. I love it! The image q... (show quote)



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Mar 17, 2019 09:32:18   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
LFingar wrote:
The EOS RP and the 6DII share the same sensor, just as the EOS R and the 5DIV also share the same sensor. I don't have an RP or a 6DII, but, I do have an R and a 5DIV so I can see similarities and I believe that my experiences with the R will give you an idea of what to expect from the RP vs the 6DII.
First off, the auto focus with the R is superior to the 5DIV. It is more accurate and more consistent. Both the R and RP have thousands of auto focus points. In comparison, your 6DII has 45, and, the auto focus system works in a different manner, eliminating mirrors and a focus sensor. The result is better auto focus. That was one of the first things I noticed when I got my R.
The RF 24-105 f/4 L IS lens is superb and I find that all of my EF lenses perform better on the R. With the EF/RF lens adapter you can use ANY EF or EF-s lens ever made.
The R is highly customizeable and I would be surprised if the RP didn't share some of that.
The R uses the LP-E6N battery, just like your 6DII, but, the RP uses the smaller LP-E17, which might be a source of irritation since mirrorless cameras seem to be battery hogs, compared to most DSLR's. You would definitely want at least one spare battery, I would think.
There are 4 different EF/RF lens adapters, priced at $99, $199, $299, and $399. They are just spacers, no optics. The 1st one is the most basic. The next one includes a control ring. I have that one and find it handy. The 3rd and 4th ones have provisions for various filters.
You always see people writing about balance, which mystifies me. I use my both my R and 5DIV, hand held, on everything from a small, lightweight, EF 85mm f/1.8 prime to my EF 100-400 L II with extender and have yet to notice anything about balance. It's just not an issue to me but obviously it bothers some people.
The EVF is a plus because of the amount of info you can show if you wish. After learning the buttons and wheels I never have to take my eye off the viewfinder to change almost any setting. I can change the focus point simply by moving my right thumb over the rear display while viewing the EVF.
I believe that the RP has a slightly slower burst rate then the 6DII, but I doubt it is enough to make much difference. If you are shooting something that requires a high frame rate then the 7DII would be the one.
After getting my 5DIV I eventually sold my 7DII because I found that I just wasn't using it, despite it's advantages in some areas. Now, I am beginning to wonder if I should sell my 5DIV because I definitely prefer the EOS R. I'll keep it as a spare, of course, but.......
The EOS RP and the 6DII share the same sensor, jus... (show quote)


LFingar pretty well sums up my feeling/findings towards my ten day old Canon RP. Keep in mind that this is going to be my "travel camera". I also bought the extra Canon battery but have yet to use it, I just carry it around just in case. I bought the Kit with the 24-105mm F4 L lens which I plan on keeping on the body since it is the only lens that I plan to take on overseas travel. I have yet to open the box of the "free" lens adapter, and I may never give it a try until I become bored. So far I Love the RP because it has the (forgive me) "scene modes" for portraits, close-ups, night scenes, groups, food, backlight, silent mode, night portrait, etc. just like my Canon 6D. I know, there isn't a self-respecting camera guy would use such modes on any camera. Well, I have decided that while on travel I want to lighten my load, simplify my camera kit (one lens) and spend more time enjoying the trip with my wife instead of devoting the majority of my time documenting every minute of the trip. Not counting the 40 hrs. required to organize, and process the files when I return home. So far both the focus and exposure have been as good as with my $$$5DIV$$$, the crux of a good camera. Focus and exposure, hummmm, isn't that why we are so particular about photography? Maybe it is not as fast but the available focus points run almost to the edges of the screen and there are many more focus points. I also Love the little "flippy" screen because I'm 70+ and have one new knee and need another, grin. Also, the screen automatically turns off when/if you put your eye up to the viewfinder, amazing. Lastly, it has a credible full frame sensor so whats not to Love? Ok, frame rate is kinda slow for birds in flight and a few other nits, but for me it looks like a home run for travel since it will accept my "L" glass without compromise.

Remember, these are my opinions and I am not soliciting nor do I need a blast from the resident trolls, thank you very much.

Thank you LFingar for doing the heavy lifting during your response so that I could say that your opinion pretty well sums up my feelings.

I too am puzzled by the comments regarding balance. I determine the balance point of any particular body/lens combo and adjust my left (supporting) hand accordingly.

Thanks for listening,
JimmyT Sends

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Mar 17, 2019 09:38:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Jimmy T wrote:
LFingar pretty well sums up my feeling/findings towards my ten day old Canon RP. Keep in mind that this is going to be my "travel camera". I also bought the extra Canon battery but have yet to use it, I just carry it around just in case. I bought the Kit with the 24-105mm F4 L lens which I plan on keeping on the body since it is the only lens that I plan to take on overseas travel. I have yet to open the box of the "free" lens adapter, and I may never give it a try until I become bored. So far I Love the RP because it has the (forgive me) "scene modes" for portraits, close-ups, night scenes, groups, food, backlight, silent mode, night portrait, etc. just like my Canon 6D. I know, there isn't a self-respecting camera guy would use such modes on any camera. Well, I have decided that while on travel I want to lighten my load, simplify my camera kit (one lens) and spend more time enjoying the trip with my wife instead of devoting the majority of my time documenting every minute of the trip. Not counting the 40 hrs. required to organize, and process the files when I return home. So far both the focus and exposure have been as good as with my $$$5DIV$$$, the crux of a good camera. Focus and exposure, hummmm, isn't that why we are so particular about photography? Maybe it is not as fast but the available focus points run almost to the edges of the screen and there are many more focus points. I also Love the little "flippy" screen because I'm 70+ and have one new knee and need another, grin. Also, the screen automatically turns off when/if you put your eye up to the viewfinder, amazing. Lastly, it has a credible full frame sensor so whats not to Love? Ok, frame rate is kinda slow for birds in flight and a few other nits, but for me it looks like a home run for travel since it will accept my "L" glass without compromise.

Remember, these are my opinions and I am not soliciting nor do I need a blast from the resident trolls, thank you very much.

Thank you LFingar for doing the heavy lifting during your response so that I could say that your opinion pretty well sums up my feelings.

I too am puzzled by the comments regarding balance. I determine the balance point of any particular body/lens combo and adjust my left (supporting) hand accordingly.

Thanks for listening,
JimmyT Sends
LFingar pretty well sums up my feeling/findings to... (show quote)



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Mar 17, 2019 13:23:03   #
djlouden Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
I've only had the opportunity to get out once in the week that I've had the RP. Bought the kit with the RF 24-105. Adorama was out of the add on grip which is due in soon I hope as I found my fat hands need a little more room.

Menu system is familiar to Canon users. Found that selecting a button for back button focus is awkward for me given the small size and close button locations, I'll have to try some more options. You can't turn off on screen focus selection and this was a bit annoying as I kept hitting a spot and moving the focus point. Pressing the trash can button returns the point to center screen. Maybe they will fix this in a firmware update.

Like johnbhome2 i found the EVF lag between shots disconcerting, but I'll get over it or find a solution.

johnbhome2 wrote:
The only problem I have had which isn't a problem has been getting used to the EVF. The blackout between shots still freaks me out but I am getting a hand on it.


Will I replace any of my DSLR's with this? Probably not, but it might become a carry around in the car all the time contender.

I'll be interested in the observations of others here.

Happy shooting

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Mar 17, 2019 14:46:56   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
djlouden wrote:
I've only had the opportunity to get out once in the week that I've had the RP. Bought the kit with the RF 24-105. Adorama was out of the add on grip which is due in soon I hope as I found my fat hands need a little more room.

Menu system is familiar to Canon users. Found that selecting a button for back button focus is awkward for me given the small size and close button locations, I'll have to try some more options. You can't turn off on screen focus selection and this was a bit annoying as I kept hitting a spot and moving the focus point. Pressing the trash can button returns the point to center screen. Maybe they will fix this in a firmware update.

Like johnbhome2 i found the EVF lag between shots disconcerting, but I'll get over it or find a solution.



Will I replace any of my DSLR's with this? Probably not, but it might become a carry around in the car all the time contender.

I'll be interested in the observations of others here.

Happy shooting
I've only had the opportunity to get out once in t... (show quote)


Sounds like you're yet another "overall satisfied" recent RP purchaser, DJ … only thing that bothers me which you wrote (apart from the remark about the EVF blacking out, between shots) is the thing about you not choosing to replace any of your DSLRs. And, here, I had thought - this was the whole point in the exercise - buy Mirrorless, and replace one's heavy DSLRs, with a comparable - overall lighter - camera!!

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Mar 17, 2019 15:08:06   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Jimmy T wrote:
LFingar pretty well sums up my feeling/findings towards my ten day old Canon RP. Keep in mind that this is going to be my "travel camera". I also bought the extra Canon battery but have yet to use it, I just carry it around just in case. I bought the Kit with the 24-105mm F4 L lens which I plan on keeping on the body since it is the only lens that I plan to take on overseas travel. I have yet to open the box of the "free" lens adapter, and I may never give it a try until I become bored. So far I Love the RP because it has the (forgive me) "scene modes" for portraits, close-ups, night scenes, groups, food, backlight, silent mode, night portrait, etc. just like my Canon 6D. I know, there isn't a self-respecting camera guy would use such modes on any camera. Well, I have decided that while on travel I want to lighten my load, simplify my camera kit (one lens) and spend more time enjoying the trip with my wife instead of devoting the majority of my time documenting every minute of the trip. Not counting the 40 hrs. required to organize, and process the files when I return home. So far both the focus and exposure have been as good as with my $$$5DIV$$$, the crux of a good camera. Focus and exposure, hummmm, isn't that why we are so particular about photography? Maybe it is not as fast but the available focus points run almost to the edges of the screen and there are many more focus points. I also Love the little "flippy" screen because I'm 70+ and have one new knee and need another, grin. Also, the screen automatically turns off when/if you put your eye up to the viewfinder, amazing. Lastly, it has a credible full frame sensor so whats not to Love? Ok, frame rate is kinda slow for birds in flight and a few other nits, but for me it looks like a home run for travel since it will accept my "L" glass without compromise.

Remember, these are my opinions and I am not soliciting nor do I need a blast from the resident trolls, thank you very much.

Thank you LFingar for doing the heavy lifting during your response so that I could say that your opinion pretty well sums up my feelings.

I too am puzzled by the comments regarding balance. I determine the balance point of any particular body/lens combo and adjust my left (supporting) hand accordingly.

Thanks for listening,
JimmyT Sends
LFingar pretty well sums up my feeling/findings to... (show quote)


Jimmy … glad you're happy with the RP … from what I've read - a damned fine camera. And, it sure is nice to have a FF camera, at last - which has the fully-articulating screen - so you don't have to bend down to get those angled shots, one invariably chooses to make. Better for your knees and back, eh?

Just one thing … I have now - two dozen digital cameras - a dozen bridges, and a dozen DSLRs - and not a ONE - lacks scene modes. They ALL have 'em. But, it most certainly is gratifying and reassuring to see a new camera you've just bought - duplicates that feature you like in an older camera. As already pointed out - the RP is a Mirrorless version of the 6D2 - which, itself - is a follow-on to your 6D - which lacks the fully-articulating screen - both of the newer models have (6D2, R, and your RP.) Hopefully, in time - Canon will integrate this highly desirable feature into ALL of its current cameras. Wait and see!!!!

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Mar 17, 2019 15:10:43   #
Haydon
 
Chris T wrote:
Sounds like you're yet another "overall satisfied" recent RP purchaser, DJ … only thing that bothers me which you wrote (apart from the remark about the EVF blacking out, between shots) is the thing about you not choosing to replace any of your DSLRs. And, here, I had thought - this was the whole point in the exercise - buy Mirrorless, and replace one's heavy DSLRs, with a comparable - overall lighter - camera!!


Weight saving only really becomes noticeable with micro four-thirds. Look at the new RF lenses. They aren't notieably light in fact the 28-70 F2 weighs only 2/10 of a lb. less than a 70-200 2.8L II. The real benefit of mirrorless is compact size and WYSIWYG when making an image. A smaller attribute is IQ which supposedly comes from the lens distance to the sensor.

Also LFingar claims autofocus accuracy and certainly the number of focus points spreading out across the viewfinder to encourage better images being made under paper thin DOF conditions. There are shortcomings to focus & recompose.

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