A bridge and a barn.
camerapapi wrote:
I like both images.
That is much appreciated!
Nice clarity! I like the first one, even though the barn is distorted.
GPS Phil wrote:
I received my new camera (Z6) on Tuesday and we had our first nice day of the year on Wed. This is one of the first shots after setting up the camera. A very easy camera to use, just what this old man needs! Thoughts and comments are most welcome!
Phil
Hi, Phil,
Much has been made of the “internal framing” in #2, but “internal framing” is definitely not a compositional trump card, particularly when a number of compositional aspects of #1 are considered:
There is, indeed a contrast in mass from the viewer’s side of the stream and the far side of the stream. The bridge plays an important metaphorical and compositional role as a “bridge” between the two areas of so-called “imbalance”. Also consider the “from-darkness-to-light” aspect of the image. The stream’s approximate diagonal course...and being traversed / intersected by the bridge is also an important compositional element in the contrasting mass-disparity and light-disparity of the two regions of the image.
My reaction is: #2 is just another grab shot including “internal framing” (because it’s there and available...) versus the more powerful composition of #1, which, IMO, might even be improved by a bit closer crop from the left side, closer to or taking a bit of the heavy tree mass. The mass and light imbalances are, IMO, both keys to the strength of #1’s composition.
Best regards,
Dave
Uuglypher wrote:
Hi, Phil,
Much has been made of the “internal framing” in #2, but “internal framing” is definitely not a compositional trump card, particularly when a number of compositional aspects of #1 are considered:
There is, indeed a contrast in mass from the viewer’s side of the stream and the far side of the stream. The bridge plays an important metaphorical and compositional role as a “bridge” between the two areas of so-called “imbalance”. Also consider the “from-darkness-to-light” aspect of the image. The stream’s approximate diagonal course...and being traversed / intersected by the bridge is also an important compositional element in the contrasting mass-disparity and light-disparity of the two regions of the image.
My reaction is: #2 is just another grab shot including “internal framing” (because it’s there and available...) versus the more powerful composition of #1, which, IMO, might even be improved by a bit closer crop from the left side, closer to or taking a bit of the heavy tree mass. The mass and light imbalances are, IMO, both keys to the strength of #1’s composition.
Best regards,
Dave
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Bless your heart Dave for taking the time to give me a very insightful critique. While knowing what we did wrong is important, knowing what we did right is just as important. No. 2 was indeed a grab shot, but No. 1 I worked on for a while and had the feeling when I returned to the car that I would return and re-shoot the scene. The 24-70mm S lens seems to be very sensitive to angle, a thing to remember. Thanks again for sharing your insight and knowledge, it was much needed, and very much appreciated!
Phil
photophile wrote:
Attractive images Phil.
Thanks Karin, I appreciate you taking the time to say so!
Phil
GPS Phil wrote:
Bless your heart Dave for taking the time to give me a very insightful critique. While knowing what we did wrong is important, knowing what we did right is just as important. No. 2 was indeed a grab shot, but No. 1 I worked on for a while and had the feeling when I returned to the car that I would return and re-shoot the scene. The 24-70mm S lens seems to be very sensitive to angle, a thing to remember. Thanks again for sharing your insight and knowledge, it was much needed, and very much appreciated!
Phil
Bless your heart Dave for taking the time to give ... (
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Glad to have been of help...but remember: when we are talking composition...we are talking massive amounts of opinion and damned little - if any - hard science !
Dave
DeanS wrote:
Two very nice shots.
Thank you Dean, I do appreciate that!
What I love about #1 is the way that little brook reflects the bright, blue sky. That plus the barn's red color and the way the bridge escorts you to the bridge seems to to balance the image for me. I like the tree's texture and the gnarly undergrowth on the left. Both are an excellent start with your new found friend!
carlysue wrote:
What I love about #1 is the way that little brook reflects the bright, blue sky. That plus the barn's red color and the way the bridge escorts you to the bridge seems to to balance the image for me. I like the tree's texture and the gnarly undergrowth on the left. Both are an excellent start with your new found friend!
I always look forward to your critique/opinion because I know how you think. Thank you my friend, I'm looking forward to Wed. being a pain free day!
Keep me posted!
1-L
GPS Phil wrote:
I always look forward to your critique/opinion because I know how you think. Thank you my friend, I'm looking forward to Wed. being a pain free day!
Keep me posted!
1-L
I think I agree with Uuglypher, 1-L, if I interpreted what he said correctly. AND one can always fix the distortion of the barn with a bit of PS straightening.
2-L had the injection. Home resting. complicated morning. but why would I have thought it'd be easy?
carlysue wrote:
I think I agree with Uuglypher, 1-L, if I interpreted what he said correctly. AND one can always fix the distortion of the barn with a bit of PS straightening.
2-L had the injection. Home resting. complicated morning. but why would I have thought it'd be easy?
I will check on the patient later!
Joel and I have both put the image on the straightening grid and finally realized the distortion every one is seeing is the covered wind mill, which is like a 4 sided pyramid. It appears to be part of the barn when looking at it from this direction, it is not! I was happy to find out the lens was fine. Uuglypher offered the most insight into what I did right or wrong and shared that. It was a learning moment.
carlysue wrote:
What I love about #1 is the way that little brook reflects the bright, blue sky. That plus the barn's red color and the way the bridge escorts you to the bridge seems to to balance the image for me. I like the tree's texture and the gnarly undergrowth on the left. Both are an excellent start with your new found friend!
Bridge to barn.... I should reread what I write on occasion!
carlysue wrote:
Bridge to barn.... I should reread what I write on occasion!
Stress affects all of us, even the head nurse! Like we used to say on the road,"just smile and grab another gear"
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