Oil painting other than PS? (Page 3): A bit harsh (to the point of being unfair and somewhat belittling). While individual images may not turn out well, broadly dismissing a whole...

Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA

artBob wrote:

You might question why you want to "oil paint" a photo. While there are personal and decorative reasons, as a serious photo or art, such techniques fail. They are somewhat akin to painting a cheap plaster statue in fake bronze patina. Honest concept and honest use of the medium you use to express that concept are the valued traditions for fine photography or art.

A bit harsh (to the point of being unfair and somewhat belittling). While individual images may not turn out well, broadly dismissing a whole approach that some may take and declaring it a fail is pretty over the top.

I respect artistic traditions, but I don’t consider them sacrosanct, nor do I think those who wish to exercise a different approach in their creativity are in any way being dishonest.

xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada

speters wrote:

What do you mean by limited scope, there are no limitations in PS, the only ones that are, are in your mind?
No other painting software ( like SnapArt, etc.) don't even come nowhere close!

PS is wonderful and can do so much... The challenge many users have is that one needs a degree in art & be retired to create an oil painting effect that is anywhere near as good as some of the more specialized & significantly faster software. Which is why there are so many other software options available.

Cheers!

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

will47 wrote:

I have been thinking about getting this program. Is this a PS plug-in? And, since I have Topaz Studio, is this program the same thing? I liked what I saw when I investigated it but I don't want a duplicate program. Is one easier to use than the other? Thanks.

They are now offering a home edition vs the pro. 40 and 90 respectively. I have 5 and will upgrade to 6.

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Photographer Jim wrote:

A bit harsh (to the point of being unfair and somewhat belittling). While individual images may not turn out well, broadly dismissing a whole approach that some may take and declaring it a fail is pretty over the top.

I respect artistic traditions, but I don’t consider them sacrosanct, nor do I think those who wish to exercise a different approach in their creativity are in any way being dishonest.

Agreed!

I am not a TEACHER in that I don't have the credentials and I never benefited from an education in pedagogical methodologies- I have a great deal of respect for those who have theses attributes. Nor am I a philosopher- far from that description. I feel, however, I am a good "INSTRUCTOR" in that I can draw on my education and experiences and show folks how to do things- what I like to call "nuts and bolts". I prefer to TEACH NOT TO PREACH! So...the best way I can help folks when they have a question is to show them a practical methodology or direct them to the resources that they require to DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, not necessarily what I would always do in my own work. I try to provide the "tools" and what they do with them is a matter of their own perception, skills talents and goals. I might express my thoughts about certin concepts but I won't discourage or belittle anyone- there is no benefit to anyone in that kind of approach.

I have lots of "DOs" and the only time I express the "DONT'S " is if someone is going to do something harmful to themselves, their equipment or jeopardize their reputation or fiduciary status with a client in a professional scenario.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

Gene51 wrote:

Ugh, not to my taste at all. I prefer Snap Art. Be... (show quote)

I don't have to look at it, I do have SnapArt on one of my computers, and yes it is very convenient, but for more control, I prefer PS!

Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara

Topaz Studio... free! you don’t have to have all those expensive plugins by Topaz. Lots of different approaches. And while I'm not going to get in the discussion of paint vs photography the effect there for personal use are great. I'm not so narrow minded as say my local photo club that wont even show post processed (i.e. digital images) in shows.. needless to say I'm not a member.

hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA

Another vote for Corel Painter Essentials.

StaneeRae Loc: Lincroft, NJ USA

Lots of options. In addition to some mentioned already:
https://jixipix.com
https://www.artrage.com
https://akvis.com/en/index.php

There are Photoshop actions & scripts also.
https://graphicriver.net/item/animated-real-paint-fx-photoshop-addon-extension/23116581

And tutorials on how to use Photoshop to do paintings.
https://deardorff-training.myshopify.com/collections/all
http://www.bellefleurtextures.com/home-bellefleurtextures-artistry/workshops-tutorials-recipes
http://www.melissagallopaints.com/online-digital-painting-workshops

jonbeth

daldds wrote:

I want to try an oil painting affect on this shot, but am displeased with the limited scope of PS's. Any one have any experience with plug-ins?
Thanks.

Here is using the PS art history tool.

amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN

artBob wrote:

You might question why you want to "oil paint" a photo. While there are personal and decorative reasons, as a serious photo or art, such techniques fail. They are somewhat akin to painting a cheap plaster statue in fake bronze patina. Honest concept and honest use of the medium you use to express that concept are the valued traditions for fine photography or art.

To each his own. I have no talent for painting, but I do like it. So if I can turn a photo into a painting that gives me pleasure to look at, what harm is that? Please, let each have his choice without judging.

Bill_de Loc: US

amyinsparta wrote:

To each his own. I have no talent for painting, but I do like it. So if I can turn a photo into a painting that gives me pleasure to look at, what harm is that? Please, let each have his choice without judging.

It took a lot discussion (arguing) before photography was accepted as an art form. Some felt photos could be used as a tool to assist painters, but that's all. They dug their heels and went to their graves looking down their noses at photographers.

Today their offspring look down their noses at those engaged in digital art. They too will eventually go to their graves. I probably won't be around to see what the next generation has to poo poo.

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EyeShootWideOpen Loc: Florida

Nice photo! Play with it, have fun...whatever sparks joy for YOU. And you can have it both ways because you can save both versions.

jonbeth

One idea is to use the History Art Tool in PS.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

Bill_de wrote:

It took a lot discussion (arguing) before photogra... (show quote)

..... and it's not simply turning photos into oil pantings. one can really have fun, creating paintings (in any media) from scratch, using PS!