nikon D750 (Page 2): As in "Nope, what I learned was not wrong?" Or "Nope, you get less IQ shooting DX crop on a FF camera?" Andy...

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

cameraf4 wrote:

Nope!

As in "Nope, what I learned was not wrong?"

Or "Nope, you get less IQ shooting DX crop on a FF camera?"

Andy

Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.

AndyH wrote:

As in "Nope, what I learned was not wrong?"

Or "Nope, you get less IQ shooting DX crop on a FF camera?"

Andy

While I haven't a clue as to what "cameraf4"meant, on a D750 using crop mode will reduce the pixel count to about 10MP (remember a D3 was 12 MP) those pixels are larger so better DR and lower noise. It's a bit of a trade off but the IQ will be good enough for at least an 8X12 print. And plenty good enough for the web.
What it will give you is a way to possibly save the shot. For the record applying crop mode to a D810 you will get a 24 MP image, nuff said.

jcboy3

Through_MI_Eyes wrote:

Anyway the people of UHH could share images using there d750? Im still on the fence. I was prepared to pick up the d7500 cause i had the funds. Now being recommended to buy 2 different cameras but funds are higher and making me think im gonna make the wrong choice and regret it.

So you start off mentioning the D750, and then you mention the D7500. What's it going to be?

My advice, get the D750 and 24-120 f4 lens; it's one of the best full frame deals you will find. Great camera, very good lens. Then toss in a fast 35mm and/or 50mm prime for some low light shallow DOF shooting, and you are good to go.

orrie smith Loc: Kansas

AndyH wrote:

I had understood that using the crop mode on any f... (show quote)

You are correct in losing pixels and photo quality using dx lenses on a fx body. The camera may be set to dx mode, then you may use a dx lens, but you will sacrifice photo quality, in my opinion, and you will lose about 1/2 the pixels in most situations. You are incorrect in not being able to use fx lenses on dx bodies, they will work fine. Some lenses, such as the Nikon 200/500mm lens is a full frame lens, but works just as well on a dx body, without losing any quality. I often suggest that when a person is starting out in photography, and can only justify the cost of a less expensive dx camera until the are sure they want to dive in, to buy the camera, but as they upgrade their lenses, only buy fx lenses in case they ever decide to upgrade to a fx camera.

Leon S Loc: Minnesota

AndyH wrote:

I had understood that using the crop mode on any f... (show quote)

There are no disadvantages from using full frame lenses on dx bodies, however using dx lenses on fx bodies is a downgrade.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

orrie smith wrote:

You are incorrect in not being able to use fx lens... (show quote)

Yes, I knew that, but I expressed the thought incorrectly. For us, the potential cost of the glass we wanted would have been prohibitively expensive in FX format, so we intentionally started in DX, relying on improvements in sensors and bodies to catch us up a bit over the years. Neither my wife nor I have regretted the choice - the D7100 and good Nikon DX glass gives us printable images up to 16x20, and I deal as best I can with low light noise by laborious post processing. I'm quite happy to stay within our budget and I accept the limitations of the DX format.

Andy

orrie smith Loc: Kansas

AndyH wrote:

Yes, I knew that, but I expressed the thought inco... (show quote)

The D7100 is a great camera, but if you were waiting for a Nikon DX to improve on their sensors, check out the D500. It is a bit expensive, but nowhere close to it's big brother the D5, but the quality has definitely caught up to a full frame body.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

orrie smith wrote:

The D7100 is a great camera, but if you were waiting for a Nikon DX to improve on their sensors, check out the D500. It is a bit expensive, but nowhere close to it's big brother the D5, but the quality has definitely caught up to a full frame body.

That would be my next upgrade.

Andy

leftyD500 Loc: Ocala, Florida

Through_MI_Eyes wrote:

Anyway the people of UHH could share images using there d750? Im still on the fence. I was prepared to pick up the d7500 cause i had the funds. Now being recommended to buy 2 different cameras but funds are higher and making me think im gonna make the wrong choice and regret it.

Here is one I recently took with my D750. Only post processing was to crop photo.

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pshaffer Loc: Worthington, Ohio

Just got a D750 last september. Specifically for a trip to Iceland to photograph the Aurora. A raging success. I would have bought a Sony electronic shutter model, but we had three lenses already for the Nikon from an older film camera. The camera did a wonderful job on both individual photos and time lapse. And of course, two months after our trip, Nikon introduced their electronic camera, though I am not too upset, as I have a rule - never buy version 1.0 of a product. There WILL be issues.
Regarding the question of the crop frame vs. full, I would say, just spend the extra money. A year out you will forget how much it cost (I did), and you will have that little extra when you want it. You will never be caught thinking "If I had just..."
The below photos are at f/2.4 for ONLY 2.5 seconds!

pshaffer Loc: Worthington, Ohio

Lens?

pshaffer Loc: Worthington, Ohio

Lens??

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Through_MI_Eyes wrote:

Anyway the people of UHH could share images using there d750? Im still on the fence. I was prepared to pick up the d7500 cause i had the funds. Now being recommended to buy 2 different cameras but funds are higher and making me think im gonna make the wrong choice and regret it.

Images will mean nothing. With either of these camera's it's the photographer that makes the difference, NOT the camera.
Right now there is $700.00 off the D750 so the price difference is something less than $200.00. However, the D7500 has the Exceed 5 processor and the D750 has the exceed 4 processor.
And, if your a birder, the D7500 has extra reach and has GROUP AUTO FOCUS.
So, your choice, either will produce great images for a competent photographer.

cameraf4 Loc: Delaware

AndyH wrote:

As in "Nope, what I learned was not wrong?"

Or "Nope, you get less IQ shooting DX crop on a FF camera?"

Andy

Sorry, Andy. At the end of: "I've "learned" many things in my lifetime that have proven to be wrong. But am I wrong on this one? ", I was sayin that you are not wrong with regard to which type of lenses (I think) one should use on which type of camera. While I Could use pliers to loosen a bolt/nut, I really Should use the appropriate wrench.

CO

billnikon wrote:

Images will mean nothing. With either of these camera's it's the photographer that makes the difference, NOT the camera.
Right now there is $700.00 off the D750 so the price difference is something less than $200.00. However, the D7500 has the Exceed 5 processor and the D750 has the exceed 4 processor.
And, if your a birder, the D7500 has extra reach and has GROUP AUTO FOCUS.
So, your choice, either will produce great images for a competent photographer.

The D750 also has Group-area autofocus. I've tried it with mine. A cropped sensor camera is better for birding though.