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Mar 10, 2019 12:26:48   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Donkas1946 wrote:
I have been asked to video some local sporting events. I’ll be using one of my many canon DSLR’s. It is my understanding that they will only do a max of 30 mins video and then create a new file if you are going beyond that which most events do. Is there a software program out there that can combine the files into one continuous video to watch uninterrupted by clicking on the next file? Thanks in advance!


If you are on a Mac, Final Cut Pro, and if you are on either a Mac or a Windows machine, Adobe Premiere. These will give you a full-feature linear editing experience. Adobe After Effects is a good way of doing things with video that cannot be done by either. FCP or AP.

Then there are the long list of free stuff.

FWIW, no one wants to look at a long, unedited video. So the 29 min limit should not present a problem for you. A 2 hour event can be edited to a 15 min video that is interesting and engaging. That's how it generally works. You aren't recording security footage, you should be telling a story.

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Mar 10, 2019 12:36:43   #
Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH
 
Gene51 wrote:
If you are on a Mac, Final Cut Pro, and if you are on either a Mac or a Windows machine, Adobe Premiere. These will give you a full-feature linear editing experience. Adobe After Effects is a good way of doing things with video that cannot be done by either. FCP or AP.

Then there are the long list of free stuff.

FWIW, no one wants to look at a long, unedited video. So the 29 min limit should not present a problem for you. A 2 hour event can be edited to a 15 min video that is interesting and engaging. That's how it generally works. You aren't recording security footage, you should be telling a story.
If you are on a Mac, Final Cut Pro, and if you are... (show quote)


This is primarily for at least hour long sporting events.

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Mar 10, 2019 13:41:54   #
rck281 Loc: Overland Park, KS
 
I believe the 29 minute limit is caused by the file size. If formatted in FAT32, just under 4 GB is the maximum file size.

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Mar 10, 2019 16:16:50   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
speters wrote:
No, you can shoot a lot longer than that, it is only that after 29min. and some, the camera will automatically create a new file, but the recording is continuous! So, you can record as long as your batteries will allow!


I don't know video basics on Canon but with my Nikon D7100 at the end of 19 minute periods it will totally shut down - dead stop. While it is recording I get a count down timer to let me know how much time I have left and it is possible to pick a good breaking spot before it shouts down and restart to make the segments more fluid. I use Pinnacle Studio 21 but there is a version 22 out now and it would let me combine and edit segments and do all kinds of neat creative things with the frames. I have only tried Pinnacle so I can't say it is best or better than others. Lots of luck in your project!

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Mar 10, 2019 16:52:37   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 


Jerry, they are limited to 29 minutes, 59 seconds.

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Mar 10, 2019 18:24:18   #
Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH
 
Thank you I’ll look into that one as well.

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Mar 10, 2019 21:12:39   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Donkas1946 wrote:
I have been asked to video some local sporting events. I’ll be using one of my many canon DSLR’s. It is my understanding that they will only do a max of 30 mins video and then create a new file if you are going beyond that which most events do. Is there a software program out there that can combine the files into one continuous video to watch uninterrupted by clicking on the next file? Thanks in advance!


Any video editing program (Apple iMovie or Microsoft MovieMaker, Adobe Premiere Elements, and dozens of others...)

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Mar 10, 2019 21:19:02   #
Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH
 
burkphoto wrote:
Any video editing program (Apple iMovie or Microsoft MovieMaker, Adobe Premiere Elements, and dozens of others...)


Yes it’s appearing that way. Thank you!

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Mar 11, 2019 09:23:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Jerry, they are limited to 29 minutes, 59 seconds.


The EU tariff limit is 29:59 (minutes:seconds) plus 24 frames in countries using 50Hz power, or 29 frames in countries using 50Hz power. The tariff on dSLRs and mirrorless cameras with video capabilities is supposed to protect the sales of traditional form-factor video cameras. HOWEVER:

There are MANY older video-capable dSLRs that have shorter recording time limits, usually due to issues with sensor overheating. The manufacturers limit the recording time to allow the sensor to cool off a bit before continuing. Some older Canons shut down at around 12 minutes. Whether that is by design or it just happens because it takes 12 minutes to reach the thermal shut-down temperature, I don't know.

Even the Nikon D5 has limits... At introduction it was limited to just three minutes of 4K video.

If you want a 'dSLR-like' camera that records UNLIMITED 1080P and 4K video, the Panasonic Lumix GH5 and GH5s are the tools. These cameras have identical dual card slots and can use an AC adapter or battery grip. You can change out (hot swap) the battery in the grip and a full card in one slot while the camera runs on the other battery and records to the other card.

The GH5, GH5s, and the older GH4 do not suffer from overheating issues. They are designed to dissipate the heat well enough to allow continuous recording. They do cost "more than they should," in some parts of the world, because Panasonic pays the EU tariff... If you record lots of video AND stills, and you need to travel lightly, they are a special breed worth every penny.

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Mar 11, 2019 09:38:46   #
Eddy Vortex
 
My understanding is that the movie time limit is 29:59 min because any time over 30:00 min would classify the camera as a movie camera - which is taxed 40 % higher than a still camera.

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Mar 11, 2019 09:45:49   #
Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH
 
burkphoto wrote:
The EU tariff limit is 29:59 (minutes:seconds) plus 24 frames in countries using 50Hz power, or 29 frames in countries using 50Hz power. The tariff on dSLRs and mirrorless cameras with video capabilities is supposed to protect the sales of traditional form-factor video cameras. HOWEVER:

There are MANY older video-capable dSLRs that have shorter recording time limits, usually due to issues with sensor overheating. The manufacturers limit the recording time to allow the sensor to cool off a bit before continuing. Some older Canons shut down at around 12 minutes. Whether that is by design or it just happens because it takes 12 minutes to reach the thermal shut-down temperature, I don't know.

Even the Nikon D5 has limits... At introduction it was limited to just three minutes of 4K video.

If you want a 'dSLR-like' camera that records UNLIMITED 1080P and 4K video, the Panasonic Lumix GH5 and GH5s are the tools. These cameras have identical dual card slots and can use an AC adapter or battery grip. You can change out (hot swap) the battery in the grip and a full card in one slot while the camera runs on the other battery and records to the other card.

The GH5, GH5s, and the older GH4 do not suffer from overheating issues. They are designed to dissipate the heat well enough to allow continuous recording. They do cost "more than they should," in some parts of the world, because Panasonic pays the EU tariff... If you record lots of video AND stills, and you need to travel lightly, they are a special breed worth every penny.
The EU tariff limit is 29:59 (minutes:seconds) plu... (show quote)


Thanks that explains a lot and I’ll look into the GH.

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Mar 11, 2019 17:20:24   #
User ID
 
Donkas1946 wrote:
I have been asked to video some local sporting events. I’ll be using one of my many canon DSLR’s. It is my understanding that they will only do a max of 30 mins video and then create a new file if you are going beyond that which most events do. Is there a software program out there that can combine the files into one continuous video to watch uninterrupted by clicking on the next file? Thanks in advance!


IIRC, the last few times I'd bought any Canons,
a video editor was included, either on CD-ROM
or by download from CUSA support.

If you somehow have no editor, just name the
files in alpha-numeric sequence so that the MS
Media player plays them in correct order as a
video playlist. I'm assumng this is not a slick
production and they just want to see the game
repeated for training or an awards ceremony.

You can just put the files for each game in one
folder, one folder per game, and within any one
folder you can let MS Media player do "Play All".

If they want it fancier than that, charge them
so that you can buy a better editor and to get
paid for the not-really-necessary extra work !

.

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Mar 11, 2019 17:32:37   #
User ID
 
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Gene51 wrote:
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FWIW, no one wants to look at a long, unedited video. So the
29 min limit should not present a problem for you. A 2 hour
event can be edited to a 15 min video that is interesting and
engaging. That's how it generally works. You aren't recording
security footage, you should be telling a story.


There's no "evidence" in the OPs posts that this is
to be entertainment. Long boring continuous video
that you call "security footage" is sometimes what
is wanted for various practical purposes. Our video
specialist [within our small photo unit] often spent
boring days shooting continuous boring coverage
of events, such as tech seminars, awards dinners,
etc etc etc, ad nauseum, for viewing by those who
were unable to attend.

OP needs to speak up on that issue.

.

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Mar 11, 2019 17:43:03   #
Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH
 
User ID wrote:
IIRC, the last few times I'd bought any Canons,
a video editor was included, either on CD-ROM
or by download from CUSA support.

If you somehow have no editor, just name the
files in alpha-numeric sequence so that the MS
Media player plays them in correct order as a
video playlist. I'm assumng this is not a slick
production and they just want to see the game
repeated for training or an awards ceremony.

You can just put the files for each game in one
folder, one folder per game, and within any one
folder you can let MS Media player do "Play All".

If they want it fancier than that, charge them
so that you can buy a better editor and to get
paid for the not-really-necessary extra work !

.
IIRC, the last few times I'd bought any Canons, b... (show quote)


Thank you so much this is exactly the information that I was looking for. I’ll give it a try and that is exactly what they want the video for.

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Mar 11, 2019 18:55:42   #
User ID
 
Donkas1946 wrote:
Thank you so much this is exactly the information that I was looking for. I’ll give it a try and that is exactly what they want the video for.


The crude-but-sufficient approach with
the folders and MS Media Player offers
an advantage over a "properly edited",
one-piece, finished, full-game video.

If it's for training use, on a one-piece
video you hafta use the time/progress
bar to relocate to a certain "minutes
and seconds" point to reach a play that
needs study. You hafta deal with time
on a progress bar that is the full length
of the game. With 29min per file, you
can just go to the file that contains the
play in question, and at most you only
hafta zip thru 29 min, usually less.

Maybe you even wanna shoot games in
shorter [10 minute ?] chunks. Anyone
at any later time can use an editor to
make a more finished product if needed
since the crude method doesn't change
the SOOC files or lose any part of them.

"Crude but effective" .... motto of the
Fraternal Order of the Bigger Hammer.

.

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