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Mar 6, 2019 21:33:31   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
You will need this in your camera bag, it is a guide for exposure with any camera in 'manual' mode. This is from Brooks Institute of Photography. The guide has one foot in the Sunny 16 rule and the other foot in years of practical photography. This guide has been around for decades, it took decades to compile the data and to verify it to be sure it is correct. I have found this guide to never be in error and from all practical purposes I keep a copy in my camera case; it is most likely the single most useful and practical accessory any and all photographers can have in their camera bag.

Here is a location that the complete guide may be down loaded to your computer , saved, then printed out so that you can have a copy in your camera bag. Remember, if it is not in your camera bag it serves no purpose.

http://www.garageglamour.com/tips/bdeguide.php

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Mar 6, 2019 21:35:19   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Timmers wrote:
You will need this in your camera bag, it is a guide for exposure with any camera in 'manual' mode. This is from Brooks Institute of Photography. The guide has one foot in the Sunny 16 rule and the other foot in years of practical photography. This guide has been around for decades, it took decades to compile the data and to verify it to be sure it is correct. I have found this guide to never be in error and from all practical purposes I keep a copy in my camera case; it is most likely the single most useful and practical accessory any and all photographers can have in their camera bag.

Here is a location that the complete guide may be down loaded to your computer , saved, then printed out so that you can have a copy in your camera bag. Remember, if it is not in your camera bag it serves no purpose.

http://www.garageglamour.com/tips/bdeguide.php
You will need this in your camera bag, it is a gui... (show quote)
Link does not work?

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Mar 6, 2019 22:02:21   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
Link does not work?


I just clicked on it from the Hog, worked fine, then I copy/past and it went right to the location.

GOOGLE search: Photography Basic Daylight Exposure - Garage Glamour

FROM GOOGLE:
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=HYmAXISYCsG2sAXOt5LQBQ&q=basic+daylight+exposure&oq=Basic+Daylight&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l2j0i22i30l8.5394.12979..18308...0.0..0.62.770.14......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131.2f4o-Nb5j00

I don't know how else to get you there.

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Mar 6, 2019 22:04:50   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
Timmers - Link worked fine for me. Copied the chart and saved it to print out soon. Thanks!

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Mar 6, 2019 22:09:32   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
It seems to me I could just use my camera meter to get my exposure much faster than I could get out the guide, figure out which scene I have, and calculate the number of stops I need to add or subtract.

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Mar 6, 2019 22:13:10   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
rjaywallace wrote:
Timmers - Link worked fine for me. Copied the chart and saved it to print out soon. Thanks!


Glad it is a good item to have!

When I taught photography I gave a laminated copy to every single student. Even my faculty carried copies in their camera bags. Arnold Newman laughed when we gave him a pile of them and said he would try it!

I use to point to the entry on fireworks display, it is amazing how slow a film speed one needed to do fire works the students remarked.

It even helps when doing any night photography.

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Mar 6, 2019 22:18:27   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
It seems to me I could just use my camera meter to get my exposure much faster than I could get out the guide, figure out which scene I have, and calculate the number of stops I need to add or subtract.


I think you will find there are locations that all the meters in the world won't help in some locations.

One of the great things is that the guide can not tell you answers to questions, that is for our brains to do but when you are looking at a scene in the middle of the night illuminated by some weird lighting this can help you get to a starting point with that digital camera. BUT, imaging going back 25 years with a film camera. That is the era of this guide. Still in the era of digital it can help people to understand exposure.

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Mar 6, 2019 22:36:10   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Timmers wrote:
I think you will find there are locations that all the meters in the world won't help in some locations.

One of the great things is that the guide can not tell you answers to questions, that is for our brains to do but when you are looking at a scene in the middle of the night illuminated by some weird lighting this can help you get to a starting point with that digital camera. BUT, imaging going back 25 years with a film camera. That is the era of this guide. Still in the era of digital it can help people to understand exposure.
I think you will find there are locations that all... (show quote)


25 years ago with a film camera (50 years ago for that matter), I was using my meter. What kind of locations will a meter not work for?

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Mar 7, 2019 00:16:14   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
Timmers wrote:
You will need this in your camera bag, it is a guide for exposure with any camera in 'manual' mode. This is from Brooks Institute of Photography. The guide has one foot in the Sunny 16 rule and the other foot in years of practical photography. This guide has been around for decades, it took decades to compile the data and to verify it to be sure it is correct. I have found this guide to never be in error and from all practical purposes I keep a copy in my camera case; it is most likely the single most useful and practical accessory any and all photographers can have in their camera bag.

Here is a location that the complete guide may be down loaded to your computer , saved, then printed out so that you can have a copy in your camera bag. Remember, if it is not in your camera bag it serves no purpose.

http://www.garageglamour.com/tips/bdeguide.php
You will need this in your camera bag, it is a gui... (show quote)

Thanks for the post - it's good to see a bit of humour here!

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Mar 7, 2019 00:27:28   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
25 years ago with a film camera (50 years ago for that matter), I was using my meter. What kind of locations will a meter not work for?


Well for one, the forest. At about 7,000 foot I was working with several photographers with a model, none of their images were coming out. Ask what I was doing with a film camera I said the Sunny 16 in clearings, but pointing a camera at dense trees and brush and the meters were calling for heavy exposures. Good ol' photosynthesis! I had read Ansel Adams book Natural Photography and knew that the big pines would 'eat' 3 to 5 stops of the light (literally EAT it and not reflect any). So where the model was the light in clearings was in the summer f=16 for 1/ISO, AND at 5 to 7 thousand feet an increase of about one stop more light, but only in the clearings (which were quite small. The dense tree background was like a black backdrop.

Other locations are artificial light, like security lights at night on a property. The color is not 'natural' sort of a green/blue compared to daylight.

There are other examples on the list if you look at the exposure guide.

A good example is fireworks in the sky, metering even with spot meters becomes near impossible.

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Mar 7, 2019 00:37:26   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
I began doing photographs with an old Leica IIIc in 1963, I had not meter of any sort but Joe (my Father) explained the rule of 16. I had some questions and an old guy helped me with some values for when it was threating to rain or raining. He told me that a heavy over cast sky but there was no odor of moisture in the air was the same exposure as what was on a Kodak exposure guide that was the same as open shade.

I was a kid, a slightly older teenager so I asked my Father if he knew what he was talking about. Joe laughed unpriestly, "Yes son, you can trust him, he knows a lot about photography!" The old guy was Ansel Adams, who was leading our group of camera shutter bugs who belonged to The Friends of Photography. I did not know who he was, I was one of the green horns of the group.

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Mar 7, 2019 09:52:21   #
alexol
 
Interesting table, thanks.

Just curious - why so many spelling mistakes?

Copied it into Word to reformat the table into something the right size/shape for my bag, and Word wanted to make 34 corrections - "dayight" was 20-something of them.

Alex

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Mar 7, 2019 11:06:47   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
Link does not work?


Link was blocked by security filter at work, maybe that happened to you

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Mar 7, 2019 11:47:12   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
alexol wrote:
Interesting table, thanks.

Just curious - why so many spelling mistakes?

Copied it into Word to reformat the table into something the right size/shape for my bag, and Word wanted to make 34 corrections - "dayight" was 20-something of them.

Alex


I'm dyslexic so I'm not a good source for spelling! One of the PhD's that I took English with in university when I asked a similar question about this subject explained that most of 'spelling' other than the basic root are constructions based in socially acceptable constructs. Sharp individuals will create words from root words or concepts. As example Lawrence Durrell, the English novelist created the word 'Tunc' as a Latin construct to define the idea that was opposite to the Roman idea of the Roman Rule By the Sword
Pax Roma).

Another such word/name is the city of Paris. Paris is constructed from two ideas/names. Par, the prefix that is used in ancient context to designate a deity, specifically that in a time frame of the Zodiac where Taurus the bull is being expressed. The latter portion is 'is' which is drawn from the Egyptian Goddess Isis. This designates or associates the location of the Goddess Isis during the time of the bull god Taurus for the founding of her cult at the underground springs that are associated with the location that is Paris.

Words can have meanings that go beyond the simple scope of what many believe to be mere spelling.

The word 'daylight' has important consequences for photography that go far beyond the basic notions of spelling. Of course it could all be just some program glitch as well! LOL!!! The ol' "ghost in the machine" sort of thing.

Be vary careful with what you get from Google. The words jachin boaz or Jachin Boaz, here presented in the wrong order, should be Boaz and Jachin. Google will give you the 'acceptable' construct for the Hebrew idea of the two words and never take you to the origins of the Sumerian Gauge and Maguaga. These are the twin deities, brothers who are presented as the 'pillars that hold 'up' the universe'. Gauge is that pillar of light resting in the world of light, while Maguaga (Boaz) is represented as the dark pillar, that of darkness, who resides or holds up the non light world. The pillars of the Temple now carry the important representations that are intended. The holy of holies is that of the feminine, the yoni of unification. Remember that Star Trek hand gesture of Spoke with 'Live long and prosper'? That is half of the hand gesture used by the High Priest when the female portion of deity (Thelma) has descended into the hollies of the holy, the inner part of the temple. With the yoni's decent into the temple the temple is complete because Jachin and Boaz, the male duality is always there at the front of the temple.

Ain't history fun!

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Mar 7, 2019 12:20:37   #
alexol
 
Or, as someone sent me a while ago:

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat ltteres are at the rghit pcleas. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by ilstef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Alex

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