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Mar 5, 2019 12:54:47   #
Red Sky At Night
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Were you using a different tool, then? Maybe some kind of content-aware move/remove? You may prefer videos, but here is an overview of the clone tool: https://digital-photography-school.com/12-tips-for-mastering-the-clone-stamp-tool-in-photoshop/

I have PS Elements, not photoshop, but same principles. Zooming way in is important when working on the smallest areas; I didn't mention that yesterday. All the best!


Thanks for this overview. I've read it all. Parts of it sound scary and parts I didn't quite understand from reading. But I will now read this again with photo shop in front of me and try to follow the steps. It should be fun!

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Mar 5, 2019 12:55:36   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
Thanks abc1234. I am aware that the original photo of the bird is not a “keeper” which I kind of made mention of in my original post about all of the things wrong with the photo. But I was looking for something to play around with and since this fence is a real part of my life, like it or not, I thought it would be something to question. I agree. It is no way an ideal situation. I was just hoping someone knew of a program that might be able to recognize a fence, click on it, and the fence would all disappear. In my dreams I guess. Guess I’m not that lucky. Lol.
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I did catch that comment and that is fine. We all wish for such a program. I had a similar problem. I have bird feeders on my deck and would shoot through the sliding door. I covered it with a blank banner with a hole for lens. However, I did not like the background, angle and the glass which hurt the image quality. My solution was go shoot from a second floor bedroom. I took off the screen and opened the window. The angle and background were very much better. Perhaps you can think for alternatives too.

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Mar 5, 2019 13:31:36   #
Red Sky At Night
 
abc1234 wrote:
I did catch that comment and that is fine. We all wish for such a program. I had a similar problem. I have bird feeders on my deck and would shoot through the sliding door. I covered it with a blank banner with a hole for lens. However, I did not like the background, angle and the glass which hurt the image quality. My solution was go shoot from a second floor bedroom. I took off the screen and opened the window. The angle and background were very much better. Perhaps you can think for alternatives too.
I did catch that comment and that is fine. We all... (show quote)


That is a great idea. I think once the weather warms up and the Spring birds return I will try that. Thank you.

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Feb 25, 2020 12:59:18   #
Birdshooter Loc: Wisconsin
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Were you using a different tool, then? Maybe some kind of content-aware move/remove? You may prefer videos, but here is an overview of the clone tool: https://digital-photography-school.com/12-tips-for-mastering-the-clone-stamp-tool-in-photoshop/

I have PS Elements, not photoshop, but same principles. Zooming way in is important when working on the smallest areas; I didn't mention that yesterday. All the best!


I was drawn to this page from a post of mine. Thanks for the information on cloning that you have added. It will help me as I continue to learn about layers and improving various aspects of my photos.

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Feb 25, 2020 13:03:34   #
Birdshooter Loc: Wisconsin
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
Okay, get ready to laugh but if you think back maybe you can remember being at this place. This is my very first attempt at what I am sure the vast majority of you think of as a simple change. First of all, this original photo had lots that was not in its favor to begin with. My dogs were barking and I looked out of the window and saw this bird as the object of their concern. I grabbed my camera knowing that I was at a disadvantage with a window and a fence in the way and a lens that was way too short of a length to get a decent photo without massive cropping. So this is what it is.

My question is about fence removal. This fence has been my nemesis since we moved here almost 5 years ago. In all of the pictures of my dogs it is behind them. In anything distant it is in front of it. I found the simple tool in photo shop and set out to remove the fence. For a first try I am pretty happy with what it did on the wood and even part of the bird. But my biggest problem is the face of the bird. This is just for me so I'm not looking for perfection. But I would have liked to have had the bird's face look a bit better.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. And feel free to play with either of the photos as you like. Thanks for any help and for your patience with a newbie. I don't even mind if you laughed. Laughter is good. And trust me, I am laughing with you.
Okay, get ready to laugh but if you think back may... (show quote)


I was drawn to this post of yours from your comment you made on mine when I showed my first work of layers and cloning. I got many great hints from reading through your post and comments. It's always good to see there are people out there still learning about Photoshop and photography in general. Thank you.

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Feb 25, 2020 14:08:16   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Birdshooter wrote:
I was drawn to this page from a post of mine. Thanks for the information on cloning that you have added. It will help me as I continue to learn about layers and improving various aspects of my photos.
Great to have you! As I just wrote in your topic, please be sure to subscribe to PP Forum so that you can be alerted to new topics via the "newest topics" list at the top of any UHH page.

A few tutorials by UHH members are included in the guidelines doc:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-184368-1.html

All the best in your journey!

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Feb 26, 2020 15:54:15   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Cheating quite a bit here...

To remove a chain link fence or just almost anything that is linear there is a simple albeit time consuming...

Content aware with a twist.

- Create an empty layer (I named it matrix)
- Select a hard brush that fits over the object to be replaced. Make sure you paint black (it does not really matter but this makes everything visible.
- Once you have created the (matrix) content by painting, uncheck it.
- Click on the lower layer
- Alt-click to create a selection from the (matrix)
- Use 'Content aware fill' (under file > edit)
- Make sure you select 'create a new layer'
- Click ok

You are almost done.

To adjust the imperfections
- Create a new empty layer
- Select the healing brush (soft edge). Make sure you select Sample All Layers
- Start a new non destructive edit of the image.

Notes: On my sample I did not play with the correction layer. I also did not select the whole fence (I do not have the patience)


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Basic removal
Basic removal...
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Some edit to eliminate some of the residues.
Some edit to eliminate some of the residues....
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Feb 26, 2020 20:33:18   #
Toleman
 
Some tasks even with the best software are just impossible and I think you have come across one of these.
However I am sure it was good practice so it will not be time wasted.

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Mar 2, 2020 23:59:44   #
Red Sky At Night
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Cheating quite a bit here...

To remove a chain link fence or just almost anything that is linear there is a simple albeit time consuming...

Content aware with a twist.

- Create an empty layer (I named it matrix)
- Select a hard brush that fits over the object to be replaced. Make sure you paint black (it does not really matter but this makes everything visible.
- Once you have created the (matrix) content by painting, uncheck it.
- Click on the lower layer
- Alt-click to create a selection from the (matrix)
- Use 'Content aware fill' (under file > edit)
- Make sure you select 'create a new layer'
- Click ok

You are almost done.

To adjust the imperfections
- Create a new empty layer
- Select the healing brush (soft edge). Make sure you select Sample All Layers
- Start a new non destructive edit of the image.

Notes: On my sample I did not play with the correction layer. I also did not select the whole fence (I do not have the patience)


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Wow, this is so much better than where it started. Thanks for taking the time to offer suggestions and write it all out.

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