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Mar 4, 2019 23:28:26   #
HardwareGuy
 
Then if course are those who bring their dogs to the grocery store. They sit in the same cart where you put your food, and then they take their reusable shopping bags with dog hair all over it, and put them on the counter. It has gotten completely out of control.

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Mar 4, 2019 23:43:17   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Yes it has gotten out of control.

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Mar 5, 2019 05:26:46   #
Largobob
 
rpavich wrote:
We live in a society where the rule is "whatever makes me happy is my right" and so we will see this sort of stuff more and more.

Add to that the second rule of our society "nobody's opinion is any more valid than anyone else's" and there you have the basis for more dumb stuff than you can keep track of.


And, I'm guessing this didn't start from conservative pressures...

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Mar 5, 2019 05:37:14   #
Largobob
 
I'm guessing this is based in the "Americans with Disabilities Act," but I don't know for sure. Dog breeds have general characteristics, some good and some not so good. It doesn't mean that every individual in the breed will behave a certain way, but it does demonstrate a trend.

I live in a no pet building. A recent tenant in one of the units, requested that they be allowed to get a "comfort dog," since the lady of the family has macular degeneration. She drives, shops, reads, and gets along just fine by herself. While I understand the law, this seems like just one more example of an individual having the right to skirt the law/rule/policy for individual gain.

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Mar 5, 2019 06:18:00   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
At our VA clinic, where many patients have comfort animals (most of us call them "our pets") the guideline is that you can bring a comfort animal with you if it is a dog, but if it barks at any person or other animal, or if it relieves itself, you have to take it out.

Different government agencies have different definitions of "service animal". HUD allows almost anything in government subsidized housing, and this started the trend, I think - people for years have come to their doctor begging for letters so that they could move in to government-subsidized housing with their cat or dog. The VA defines a service animal as "usually a dog that has been trained to perform specific tasks to help a disabled patient". Just because you go online and buy a vest and nice laminated card does not make your animal a service animal.

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Mar 5, 2019 07:00:30   #
Largobob
 
sb wrote:
At our VA clinic, where many patients have comfort animals (most of us call them "our pets") the guideline is that you can bring a comfort animal with you if it is a dog, but if it barks at any person or other animal, or if it relieves itself, you have to take it out.

Different government agencies have different definitions of "service animal". HUD allows almost anything in government subsidized housing, and this started the trend, I think - people for years have come to their doctor begging for letters so that they could move in to government-subsidized housing with their cat or dog. The VA defines a service animal as "usually a dog that has been trained to perform specific tasks to help a disabled patient". Just because you go online and buy a vest and nice laminated card does not make your animal a service animal.
At our VA clinic, where many patients have comfort... (show quote)


I am not an expert here....but this definition may be a part of the problem. We know that K-9 officers are trained and certified....we know that Guide dogs are trained and certified....we know that Service Animals are trained and certified....BUT, "Comfort Animals" are whatever the owner wants to have. I personally think it's a scam.

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Mar 5, 2019 07:05:45   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
A friend who works at a National Park told me their policy for years had been “trained working dogs” allowed but no pets in the controlled areas, i.e, generally the areas where you had to enter through a security screening. Now, if a visitor comes through security with a dog without a vest, they assume it is a “working” dog. They do not ask for proof that it is a trained working dog and many of the dogs being brought in do not appear trained judging by how they want to interact with the other visitors.

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Mar 5, 2019 07:07:05   #
sourdough58 Loc: Maine
 
I love dogs, to get a friendly dog it must be socialized from the time they are born every day patted and loved on by strangers, new people, not just a few family, if you do this your dog will grow up seeing strangers as friends they haven't met yet, not as someone to fear and bite. I was the ACO for 17 yrs in that job I had to investigate bites and do the "Bite Reports as required by the state. right now I see more and more people in the grocery stores small dogs setting in the kid seat while the owner shops other times people walking their dogs in the store and visiting in the isles and no cart and not shopping. Dogs should not be in Grocery stores or Hospitals use a little common sense. The only store I would be ok with is a pet store, and with permission. States should require training and a permit to own dangerous dogs or pets, also be required to have a bond or insurance of several million $$ so in the event of a bite or a child face being bit they could be compensated, because of the expense this would help keep these dogs out of the hands of erreasonable people.

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Mar 5, 2019 07:15:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Cookie223 wrote:
One would think that there should be some restrictions on where these animals are allowed.


Definitely! Comfort animals should be limited to small stuffed animals.

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Mar 5, 2019 07:19:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rpavich wrote:


Add to that the second rule of our society "nobody's opinion is any more valid than anyone else's"...


That's true, but many people don't know the difference between fact and opinion. I'm going to watch "Beyond the Curve" on Netflix. It's about those people who "believe" the earth is flat. That's their opinion, despite facts to the contrary.

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Mar 5, 2019 07:20:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
sourdough58 wrote:
I love dogs, to get a friendly dog it must be socialized from the time they are born every day patted and loved on by strangers, new people, not just a few family, if you do this your dog will grow up seeing strangers as friends they haven't met yet, not as someone to fear and bite.


Yes, but...

I still think that, like people, some animals are just born nasty.

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Mar 5, 2019 07:22:50   #
Miquel99 Loc: Belgium
 
Hi,
I have a dog (a boxer), and have had some others in the past.
She comes with me (when possible) wherever I go, but has been trained and obeys my orders. After 5.5 years, I have never had a problem.
I am convinced that 80% of how a dog will behave is the result of the dog's owner training and character: a non-trained dog will behave as the dog wants, will not listen, and will not understand why sometimes they can do something and other times not, independently of the bred they are.
Likewise, the dogs of aggressive owners will show aggressive character also.
Regards,
Miquel

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Mar 5, 2019 07:46:39   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
True service dogs for the blind, the police, and such are necessary. That said, the idea of a so-called comfort dog or any other animal is ludicrous. I don’t think they should be allowed anywhere outside the home under any circumstances, let alone in a public place like a hospital or airport.

By the way, the dog that bit the little girl was one of those kind, gentle pit bulls--whoda thunk it that one of those might bite.

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Mar 5, 2019 08:12:54   #
Chris
 
Did you see where the actress Glen Close brought her dog to a awards show as her date??

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Mar 5, 2019 09:21:09   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Cookie223 wrote:
I recently saw a news story of an emotionally stressed person who bought their comfort pet to the airport. As they were waiting to board the plane a little girl asked if she could pet the dog, the owner said yes that the dog was friendly. The little girl face was mauled, and she sustained serious injuries to her eye, and mouth.

Then there was another problemed person who actually tried to get of all things a peocock on a flight! Whether they succeeded or not is unknown.

Then finally at a local hospital in NJ, a women brought her comfort dog to visit someone. The dog was a nasty little bugger, a barker, and the owner allowed it to run loose in the room. The staff said there wasn’t much they could do!

One would think that there should be some restrictions on where these animals are allowed. Especially in a hospital, where keeping the place germ free is a priority. I understand thank some people need some support and help, but when someone is suffering from a emotional condition or claims to be and you bring a dangerous animal out in public posing a risk to others, they should either stay home or get a different pet.
I don’t want to sound like a heartless person, but as a society we are allowing a lot of nonsense that is creating more issues than fixing them. In my opinion the person in the hospital is a selfish and inconsiderate person. Not everyone especially sick people want to be around your precious fluffy.
Stay home!
I recently saw a news story of an emotionally stre... (show quote)


The rest of us need to NOT feel guilty and say “no” when asked if the comfort pet can be involved.

Although some truly need them it’s also an area of a lot of scams.

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