Looks like Trump is building the wall without the Democrats full support
Feb 15, 2019 06:25:27 #
letmedance wrote:
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-crisis-at-the-border/
An IBD editorial? Seriously. Got any real NEWS sources to cite?
Feb 15, 2019 07:05:51 #
McKinneyMike wrote:
An IBD editorial? Seriously. Got any real NEWS sources to cite?
I should have checked it first, although I still agree with their story but let me find it elsewhere.
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683501440/congress-aims-to-control-presidents-emergency-powers
Feb 15, 2019 07:25:20 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
thom w wrote:
The agreement gives him less than he was offered before the shutdown. It severely restricts where he can build anything. It passed both houses with veto proof majorities. If he declares a national emergence he will be shut down by courts immediately. If he tries to move money around the line item veto supreme court decision will stop him. What he can do is lie like hell and claim he is building the wall at record pace. His cult will believe him.
Got anything to support that claim?
Of course you don’t.
Mighty Nancy has struck out.
Feb 15, 2019 07:26:08 #
thom w wrote:
The agreement gives him less than he was offered before the shutdown. It severely restricts where he can build anything. It passed both houses with veto proof majorities. If he declares a national emergence he will be shut down by courts immediately. If he tries to move money around the line item veto supreme court decision will stop him. What he can do is lie like hell and claim he is building the wall at record pace. His cult will believe him.
Dems played cute politics on this bill, not to mention on National Security as well, they restricted use of the funds to only areas where the local governments are Dem controlled, and then gave local officials veto rights over any construction. Let's not forget, before Trump asked for a wall, the Dems were for it.
Congress won't be able to do much on their own other than try to get payback with cute politics in future bills as the Leader of the Senate has already indicated he will support the declaration.
As for the courts, you can bet every Liberal/Dem group is already Judge shopping to try and slow it or block it, and given their luck at finding activist Lib Judges, it's likely they will find one. But it's not likely that anything they do will hold in the SCOTUS as they have already ruled many times through history that
the laws and Constitution give much deference to the President/Commander in Chief in matters of National Security, and that includes reallocation of funds.
Feb 15, 2019 07:27:23 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
McKinneyMike wrote:
An IBD editorial? Seriously. Got any real NEWS sources to cite?
T***SLATED:
I refuse to accept reality so I shall turn to the f**e news industry for the comfort of the lies I want to hear.
Feb 15, 2019 07:55:27 #
LWW wrote:
I refuse to accept reality so I shall turn to the f**e news industry for the comfort of the lies I want to hear.
I refuse to accept reality so I shall turn to the f**e news industry for the comfort of the lies I want to hear.
We know what your beliefs are whomp whomp. Thank you for the reinforcement memo.
Feb 15, 2019 08:00:32 #
letmedance wrote:
I should have checked it first, although I still agree with their story but let me find it elsewhere.
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683501440/congress-aims-to-control-presidents-emergency-powers
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683501440/congress-aims-to-control-presidents-emergency-powers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/intelligence-officials-will-name-biggest-threats-facing-us-during-senate-hearing/2019/01/28/f08dc5cc-2340-11e9-ad53-824486280311_story.html?utm_term=.2d4a0c4c7a20
This from his OWN Security Chiefs!!!!
"The distance between the intelligence community and the White House extended to areas that have ignited fierce political debates in Washington.
None of the officials said there is a security crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border, where Trump has considered declaring a national emergency so that he can build a wall."
Feb 15, 2019 08:06:30 #
Vietnam Vet wrote:
https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/14/mcconnell-trump-sign-border-bill-national-emergency/?utm_medium=push&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push
The majority does not want his wall and especially the way that he is trying to get it!
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-border-wall-national-emergency/
Feb 15, 2019 08:07:05 #
McKinneyMike wrote:
Our discussion is not about his security chiefs opinion but as to whether or not the Lower Courts can or should try to quash his declaration.
Feb 15, 2019 08:09:13 #
letmedance wrote:
Our discussion is not about his security chiefs opinion but as to whether or not the Lower Courts can or should try to quash his declaration.
I have no desire for the lower courts to address it. Let the Supreme Court step in as they did when Truman overstepped his bounds. Trump should not be allowed to supercede/override the Congress's Right to control spending!
His own Security Chiefs do not see a serious emergency, so how can he fabricate one?
Feb 15, 2019 08:09:37 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
McKinneyMike wrote:
We know what your beliefs are whomp whomp. Thank you for the reinforcement memo.
Let the butthurt flow Mikey.
Mighty Nancy has struck out.
Feb 15, 2019 08:11:00 #
LWW wrote:
Let the butthurt flow Mikey.
Mighty Nancy has struck out.
Mighty Nancy has struck out.
What has Nancy got to do with this overreach of Executive powers?
I still trust the government is real and not a dictatorship. We shall see how it all plays out Comrade.
Feb 15, 2019 08:14:08 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
McKinneyMike wrote:
What has Nancy got to do with this overreach of Executive powers?
I still trust the government is real and not a dictatorship. We shall see how it all plays out Comrade.
I still trust the government is real and not a dictatorship. We shall see how it all plays out Comrade.
You don’t pay attention do you.
Feb 15, 2019 08:15:19 #
Feb 15, 2019 08:20:03 #
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