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Feb 14, 2019 20:49:59   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Mac wrote:
Do you mean if it had video it would have cost less?


Equivalent cameras with video cost less.

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Feb 14, 2019 20:51:16   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
ken_stern wrote:
I would think so --- kinda like asking for crank role down windows on a new car when all cars are mass produced with electric windows


That's silly.

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Feb 14, 2019 20:52:39   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Equivalent cameras with video cost less.


Oh really? Who makes an equivalent camera and what's the model.

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Feb 14, 2019 21:20:06   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
brucebil wrote:
How many people really use the video feature of your DSLR and appreciate having it. I have a Canon 5D Mk 4 and never use the video and never will. I would so appreciate it being removed and either the price lowered or other features added. Also it is just something else to go wrong. Just interested, not looking for a debate.


I don't understand why DSLR users here on the hog are so stubborn about using the video. There are plenty of times when it's appropriate to capture video. I've used it to capture waterfalls, for example. Sills of waterfalls always seem to come up short. They are either stopped mid-stream making them look odd or they are soft and creamy looking which doesn't look real either.

My camera is old but having the ability to shoot HD video is great when I think it would be fun to do it. I can think of so many things it's fun to use it for. Example: Every Sunday my wife and I change the sheets on our bed. It's our black and white cat's favorite day of the week. He loves to run at the sheets on the floor and dive into them, sliding across the floor. How do you capture that with a still? Then he gets up on the newly made bed and chases his tail. I'm kind of a grump most of the time but watching that 10 year old kitty chase his tail makes me laugh out loud every time. I love to capture it on video and forward it to my daughter. That's just a small example.

Those of you with grandchildren can probably think of dozens of cute or funny things your grandkids do that would be fun to look at years from now if only you could capture on video. Think of those old 8mm films our parents shot. They were so expensive a poor family like mine couldn't afford it. But a lot of better off families did and I always envy the fact that they have cool 8 mm movies of themselves when they were kids.

Also, a lot of people like to make videos for YouTube. If you train your employees it's a powerful tool to make an instructional videos for your employees. I have an antique Luger I didn't know how to field strip and clean. I went to YouTube and found a video some guy made that showed me step by step how to do it.

I wanted to rebuild my hand vacuum cleaner with new rechargeable batteries. I wasn't sure how to go about it. Amazingly, some other guy had the same idea and made a step by step video of how to do it. I now have a rebuilt hand-vac that has better Lithium ion batteries that are more powerful and last 2 or 3 times longer.

So I've given just a couple of examples of the things you can do with the video feature of your camera. If you don't want to use then don't. The makers of the cameras have invested millions of dollars in developing the technology. I like it and I use it if only for trivial purposes. Thing is, it's really cool and you can get 4K video with your new camera. Instead of pooh poohing it why not try to think of something to do with it. You might be delighted.

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Feb 14, 2019 21:26:07   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
10MPlayer wrote:
I don't understand why DSLR users here on the hog are so stubborn about using the video. There are plenty of times when it's appropriate to capture video.....
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I've just felt no need to use video yet. Maybe I'll try it at Thunder Hole at Acadia this year.

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Feb 14, 2019 21:29:44   #
srt101fan
 
10MPlayer wrote:
I don't understand why DSLR users here on the hog are so stubborn about using the video. There are plenty of times when it's appropriate to capture video. I've used it to capture waterfalls, for example. Sills of waterfalls always seem to come up short. They are either stopped mid-stream making them look odd or they are soft and creamy looking which doesn't look real either.

My camera is old but having the ability to shoot HD video is great when I think it would be fun to do it. I can think of so many things it's fun to use it for. Example: Every Sunday my wife and I change the sheets on our bed. It's our black and white cat's favorite day of the week. He loves to run at the sheets on the floor and dive into them, sliding across the floor. How do you capture that with a still? Then he gets up on the newly made bed and chases his tail. I'm kind of a grump most of the time but watching that 10 year old kitty chase his tail makes me laugh out loud every time. I love to capture it on video and forward it to my daughter. That's just a small example.

Those of you with grandchildren can probably think of dozens of cute or funny things your grandkids do that would be fun to look at years from now if only you could capture on video. Think of those old 8mm films our parents shot. They were so expensive a poor family like mine couldn't afford it. But a lot of better off families did and I always envy the fact that they have cool 8 mm movies of themselves when they were kids.

Also, a lot of people like to make videos for YouTube. If you train your employees it's a powerful tool to make an instructional videos for your employees. I have an antique Luger I didn't know how to field strip and clean. I went to YouTube and found a video some guy made that showed me step by step how to do it.

I wanted to rebuild my hand vacuum cleaner with new rechargeable batteries. I wasn't sure how to go about it. Amazingly, some other guy had the same idea and made a step by step video of how to do it. I now have a rebuilt hand-vac that has better Lithium ion batteries that are more powerful and last 2 or 3 times longer.

So I've given just a couple of examples of the things you can do with the video feature of your camera. If you don't want to use then don't. The makers of the cameras have invested millions of dollars in developing the technology. I like it and I use it if only for trivial purposes. Thing is, it's really cool and you can get 4K video with your new camera. Instead of pooh poohing it why not try to think of something to do with it. You might be delighted.
I don't understand why DSLR users here on the hog ... (show quote)



My problem is that I forget I have video.... 😕

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Feb 14, 2019 21:32:39   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
10MPlayer wrote:
I don't understand why DSLR users here on the hog are so stubborn about using the video. There are plenty of times when it's appropriate to capture video. I've used it to capture waterfalls, for example. Sills of waterfalls always seem to come up short. They are either stopped mid-stream making them look odd or they are soft and creamy looking which doesn't look real either.

My camera is old but having the ability to shoot HD video is great when I think it would be fun to do it. I can think of so many things it's fun to use it for. Example: Every Sunday my wife and I change the sheets on our bed. It's our black and white cat's favorite day of the week. He loves to run at the sheets on the floor and dive into them, sliding across the floor. How do you capture that with a still? Then he gets up on the newly made bed and chases his tail. I'm kind of a grump most of the time but watching that 10 year old kitty chase his tail makes me laugh out loud every time. I love to capture it on video and forward it to my daughter. That's just a small example.

Those of you with grandchildren can probably think of dozens of cute or funny things your grandkids do that would be fun to look at years from now if only you could capture on video. Think of those old 8mm films our parents shot. They were so expensive a poor family like mine couldn't afford it. But a lot of better off families did and I always envy the fact that they have cool 8 mm movies of themselves when they were kids.

Also, a lot of people like to make videos for YouTube. If you train your employees it's a powerful tool to make an instructional videos for your employees. I have an antique Luger I didn't know how to field strip and clean. I went to YouTube and found a video some guy made that showed me step by step how to do it.

I wanted to rebuild my hand vacuum cleaner with new rechargeable batteries. I wasn't sure how to go about it. Amazingly, some other guy had the same idea and made a step by step video of how to do it. I now have a rebuilt hand-vac that has better Lithium ion batteries that are more powerful and last 2 or 3 times longer.

So I've given just a couple of examples of the things you can do with the video feature of your camera. If you don't want to use then don't. The makers of the cameras have invested millions of dollars in developing the technology. I like it and I use it if only for trivial purposes. Thing is, it's really cool and you can get 4K video with your new camera. Instead of pooh poohing it why not try to think of something to do with it. You might be delighted.
I don't understand why DSLR users here on the hog ... (show quote)


Different strokes for different folks. I'm just not interested, both my Nikon D7200 and Fujifilm X100F have video and I've never used it.

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Feb 14, 2019 22:03:19   #
Properframe Loc: US Virginia
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=9H6VMEhHEuk

Photography and Video go hand in hand. In the NBP Wineland Smith Rice Award contest Daisy won a video award for 2018 after winning the Grand Prize in photography a couple of years earlier.

If you watch this you see that sometimes a still cannot capture the spectacle and sometimes only a still does.

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Feb 14, 2019 22:05:07   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Mac wrote:
Oh really? Who makes an equivalent camera and what's the model.


The Nikon D610, D750 and D800 are full frame cameras which have higher resolution, more features (including video), and lower prices than the DF.

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Feb 14, 2019 22:19:23   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
brucebil wrote:
I have a Canon 5D Mk 4 and never use the video and never will. I would so appreciate it being removed and either the price lowered or other features added. Also it is just something else to go wrong.

Yeah, one button that could fail. And if it failed from lack of use, how would you know?
Not all of us are like you.

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Feb 14, 2019 22:22:22   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Beautiful. The video sound is great too and an essential ingredient.
Properframe wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=9H6VMEhHEuk

Photography and Video go hand in hand. In the NBP Wineland Smith Rice Award contest Daisy won a video award for 2018 after winning the Grand Prize in photography a couple of years earlier.

If you watch this you see that sometimes a still cannot capture the spectacle and sometimes only a still does.

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Feb 15, 2019 06:29:13   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
JoAnneK01 wrote:
Have used my video twice and glad it was there. Been using a DSLR for about 21 years.


Insteresting. The first DSLRs - the D1H and D1X were not available until 2001.

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Feb 15, 2019 06:31:01   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
brucebil wrote:
How many people really use the video feature of your DSLR and appreciate having it. I have a Canon 5D Mk 4 and never use the video and never will. I would so appreciate it being removed and either the price lowered or other features added. Also it is just something else to go wrong. Just interested, not looking for a debate.


I've had several cameras that shot video through the years - P&S, Bridge and a D800/D810. I use the video feature infrequently.

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Feb 15, 2019 06:51:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
brucebil wrote:
How many people really use the video feature of your DSLR and appreciate having it. I have a Canon 5D Mk 4 and never use the video and never will. I would so appreciate it being removed and either the price lowered or other features added. Also it is just something else to go wrong. Just interested, not looking for a debate.


I have used mine a lot for fun events at the house and on vacation.
Short clips more for fun.
Also of the cats
But NOT being a cinematographer with the training or the other required equipment for a serious video I do not pretend to be one nor would I ever have friends or relatives suffer through a vacation video that they deep inside could give a crap about.
I don't even do slide shows of vacations for the same reason.
Post a few on FB so if anyone gives a crap they can look and do a fake like.

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Feb 15, 2019 07:03:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
This is a popular topic. "Remove the features I don't want, and lower the price." It doesn't work that way. The Nikon D90 was the first DSLR that could record video. After that, people wanted their DSLRs to record video, and now they can all do it. Companies have to keep up with the competition.

Any expense for adding video capability was incurred during research and development. The part installed in the camera is mostly computer code and maybe a few cents worth of parts.

I've shot video with my DSLRs just to see how it worked. I prefer a camcorder for video. Yes, I'm old fashioned. : )

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