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Feb 14, 2019 19:42:01   #
EyeShootWideOpen Loc: Florida
 
magnetoman wrote:
I did consider both your suggestions and my post is just a personal preference. I’m not really pano format person! As for the buoy, I reckoned it creates a leading line into the mouth of the harbour so left it. It might well be better without though. I also thought about removing the myriad other little buoys, but decided they are just part of the Harbour. All that was removed was a single bird in the sky. Many thanks indeed for your thoughts on it, I do appreciate them.


Thank you for posting! I do love the photo. All the smaller buoys were not an issue for me, that one I was undecided on. Your and Bob's explanation confirmed my second thoughts, that it might be a good thing. I am sure it will help me going forward. Much appreciated.

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Feb 15, 2019 04:35:02   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
EyeShootWideOpen wrote:
Thank you for that explanation artBob, I was torn. It kept pulling my eye away from the boat but it also directed it to the boat. I just couldnt put my finger on it. I was hoping for some seasoned feedback. You helped me very much!


Bob’s reply reminds me that in the film Mr Turner, about the English artist of that name, he is seen at the Royal Academy annual exhibition hanging his entry. He strolls over to Constable, who’s putting some finishing touches to his entry, and borrows a tube of red paint, then proceeds to daub a bit of it in the middle of his own maritime picture with his thumb - and walks off. Everyone around is bemused. The following day he returns to the painting and, with a rag, wipes around the daub to form a buoy. Perfect! I shall watch the film again (which I recommend to anyone remotely interested in Turner) to remind myself of the effect it has on the composition.

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Feb 15, 2019 05:18:23   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
magnetoman wrote:
Bob’s reply reminds me that in the film Mr Turner, about the English artist of that name, he is seen at the Royal Academy annual exhibition hanging his entry. He strolls over to Constable, who’s putting some finishing touches to his entry, and borrows a tube of red paint, then proceeds to daub a bit of it in the middle of his own maritime picture with his thumb - and walks off. Everyone around is bemused. The following day he returns to the painting and, with a rag, wipes around the daub to form a buoy. Perfect! I shall watch the film again (which I recommend to anyone remotely interested in Turner) to remind myself of the effect it has on the composition.
Bob’s reply reminds me that in the film Mr Turner,... (show quote)


Buoyed-up by ArtBob's encouragement, I had a look at another shot from the same evening - if anyone is still with me on this, which do you prefer, with or without?


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Feb 15, 2019 08:44:31   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Does the coast guard know you are doing this?
Both of these work for me, who likes a bit of tension in most photos. Sans buoy, the space is receiving the boat and it’s "mission." With the buoy, the s-curve or zig-zag lead in compositional line is lovely, creating a moment of contemplation for me.

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Feb 15, 2019 09:20:34   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
artBob wrote:
Does the coast guard know you are doing this?
Both of these work for me, who likes a bit of tension in most photos. Sans buoy, the space is receiving the boat and it’s "mission." With the buoy, the s-curve or zig-zag lead in compositional line is lovely, creating a moment of contemplation for me.


Well they seem to be dotted about fairly randomly to me Bob!
Thanks for your thoughts - I prefer with I think, the lead-in seems right somehow.

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Feb 15, 2019 10:06:38   #
SpyderJan Loc: New Smyrna Beach. FL
 
An interesting dilemma. Just as Artbob, I see something in each shot that makes it strong, but for different reasons. The first shot, without the channel marker, is much more focused on the boat, which is the center of attention, as it should be. The second shot adds another element to the depth of the image. Ultimately you will decide which you like the best and why. My only suggestion would be to crop off some of the top an bottom to see how that looks.

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Feb 15, 2019 10:10:50   #
EyeShootWideOpen Loc: Florida
 
magnetoman,

I will def look into the film you mentioned for sure! I am totally still with you. Now, my initial reaction on this was hmmmm, probably no need to remove that buoy because it is helping to move my eye around the photo. I guess my mind will slowly come around so keep the examples coming! I really like the silhouettes you captured on the boat in this one.

Edit: An after thought...I am thinking of the buoy as a supporting actor, which helps the star shine. The two play off of each other. Your little Film reference has already helped and I havent even seen it yet! This will give me a reference to consider when I am in dilemma of keep/remove.

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Feb 15, 2019 10:29:36   #
neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
magnetoman wrote:
We were making a dash for the harbour ferry last evening as the service is currently much curtailed but just could not resist stopping to take a few shots of the last light of the day. Made the ferry as well, which was a bonus! Your critique, or thoughts on it, are always welcomed.


Perfecto!

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Feb 15, 2019 10:33:52   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
SpyderJan wrote:
An interesting dilemma. Just as Artbob, I see something in each shot that makes it strong, but for different reasons. The first shot, without the channel marker, is much more focused on the boat, which is the center of attention, as it should be. The second shot adds another element to the depth of the image. Ultimately you will decide which you like the best and why. My only suggestion would be to crop off some of the top an bottom to see how that looks.


I’m not keen to make the format more like a pano Jan, it’s not something I find attractive. If I were printing, and keeping the additional buoy, I’d have to make a better job of it first (it’s just a quick creation at present), and I think I’d move it to the end of the light area in which it sits. I do prefer the ‘with’ although I do see the point you make about the original version. Many thanks for your thoughts on it all.

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Feb 15, 2019 10:40:11   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
EyeShootWideOpen wrote:
magnetoman,

I will def look into the film you mentioned for sure! I am totally still with you. Now, my initial reaction on this was hmmmm, probably no need to remove that buoy because it is helping to move my eye around the photo. I guess my mind will slowly come around so keep the examples coming! I really like the silhouettes you captured on the boat in this one.

Edit: An after thought...I am thinking of the buoy as a supporting actor, which helps the star shine. The two play off of each other. Your little Film reference has already helped and I havent even seen it yet! This will give me a reference to consider when I am in dilemma of keep/remove.
magnetoman, br br I will def look into the film y... (show quote)


Yep, I’m pretty sure I prefer the addition of the buoy for composition - but I’d better make a better job of the thing! Glad we’ve got you thinking - and hope to see some results from your ruminations in the future. Many thanks for your continued interest, it makes the post more rewarding - and I bet our artist contributor, Bob, is smiling about his success in making us both think a bit more. It’s the teacher in him!

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Feb 15, 2019 10:40:59   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
neilds37 wrote:
Perfecto!


Thank you Neil, glad you approve. Now what about that second image?

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Feb 15, 2019 13:32:41   #
neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
magnetoman wrote:
Buoyed-up by ArtBob's encouragement, I had a look at another shot from the same evening - if anyone is still with me on this, which do you prefer, with or without?


With.

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Feb 15, 2019 14:03:28   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
Very warm for February and you've captured the last of the evening's warmth a treat. I'm not to keen on that sort of vignetting effect at the top of the image.

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Feb 15, 2019 14:12:09   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
neilds37 wrote:
With.


Yep, agree! Thanks again.

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Feb 15, 2019 14:13:40   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
John N wrote:
Very warm for February and you've captured the last of the evening's warmth a treat. I'm not to keen on that sort of vignetting effect at the top of the image.


Thanks for commenting John. Hmmm, I can take or leave vignettes. Nearly removed it but decided I liked in the end.

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