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Feb 13, 2019 12:07:40   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Yes, the Green New Deal will take us back to the lovely 19th century.
Tom Daniels wrote:
I started some video editing and coffee early this morning. I always put on different news stations
and the TV is behind me in my office. This morning they were making fun of the Green Deal proposed.
And the new group in congress that wants change. Gee new ideas "Oh my God".

This post helped me. Lincoln had so much courage and took so many risks for our country.
Spielberg (Lincoln) with Daniels Day-Lewis created some of the pressures of being Lincoln.

Why is visiting the quality of pay and healthcare and living conditions in our country.
Why is it laughable that our planet is reacting to the siege on the invironment not an
important subject. I live in FL and we know about it.

The younger women in the congress are not afraid to speak the truth.
Conservative operatives are digging up anything to discredit it.

Now I am not a Liberal or Conservative. I am an American that supports the truth.
And people who have the courage to speak up like Lincoln.
I started some video editing and coffee early this... (show quote)

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Feb 13, 2019 12:14:05   #
NewGuy
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
I started some video editing and coffee early this morning. I always put on different news stations
and the TV is behind me in my office. This morning they were making fun of the Green Deal proposed.
And the new group in congress that wants change. Gee new ideas "Oh my God".

This post helped me. Lincoln had so much courage and took so many risks for our country.
Spielberg (Lincoln) with Daniels Day-Lewis created some of the pressures of being Lincoln.

Why is visiting the quality of pay and healthcare and living conditions in our country.
Why is it laughable that our planet is reacting to the siege on the invironment not an
important subject. I live in FL and we know about it.

The younger women in the congress are not afraid to speak the truth.
Conservative operatives are digging up anything to discredit it.

Now I am not a Liberal or Conservative. I am an American that supports the truth.
And people who have the courage to speak up like Lincoln.
I started some video editing and coffee early this... (show quote)


You raise good questions. Thanks!!

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Feb 13, 2019 12:23:22   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
I did not. While I appreciated the genius of Jimi Hendrix, I was not a fan of his. My guitar heroes were Christian, Pass, Smith, Hall, Ellis, Kessel and a few others. For me, it was more about the music period and genre.
Thanks for the reference and note!
Mark
Cykdelic wrote:
Mark.....irony?

On a separate note, did you catch the CBS Sunday Morning segment last week on the Electric Lady Studios? If not, google it....I think your music side will like it.

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Feb 13, 2019 12:34:23   #
SuperFly48 Loc: NE ILLINOIS
 
The State of Illinois could sure use another Abe Lincoln to get the state out of it's mess!

No doubt Mr Lincoln was the right man at the right time in this country's history. As for great presidents, Mount Rushmore says it all for me....the BIG FOUR.

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Feb 13, 2019 12:41:28   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Tom Daniels wrote:


The younger women in the congress are not afraid to speak the truth.
Conservative operatives are digging up anything to discredit it.

Now I am not a Liberal or Conservative. I am an American that supports the truth.
And people who have the courage to speak up like Lincoln.


Failing to understand Econ, Science, History and Math doesn’t make you “not afraid” it makes you ignorant. The conservatives only have to point out the obvious to discredit this “truth”. Even the libs are running away from the Green New Deal lunacy. News flash, you are a liberal, not that there is anything wrong with that.

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Feb 13, 2019 12:45:42   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
Slavery was the reason Southern states wanted to leave the Union.


South Carolina was the first State to secede from the Union, the next month after Lincoln was elected in November 1860. Four months later, it began at the Battle of Fort Sumter, South Carolina. Union soldiers surrendered. And that's how the Civil War began. Lincoln was only President for one month when that happened. What an awakening for him, that must have been. And a war that lasted for 4 years. Fort Sumter is a National Park today, with tourists from everywhere. I'd like to visit that place.

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Feb 13, 2019 12:53:51   #
blue-ultra Loc: New Hampshire
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
It end 150 years ago and you Southerners still hold on to the idea it was all about states rights. What was states rights any way?


The reason you have no idea what states right are is because the Civil War ended "states rights". The central government became the all powerful and continues today!

Read your history!

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Feb 13, 2019 12:56:23   #
blue-ultra Loc: New Hampshire
 
exakta56 wrote:
The Jim Crow laws set in place after the war ended should make it clear what the white Southerners were about.



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Feb 13, 2019 13:12:15   #
blue-ultra Loc: New Hampshire
 
markngolf wrote:
I posted an image of Lincoln to pay tribute to him on his birthday. How this degenerated into a discussion of the South vs North is beyond my understanding
Mark



Mark, I am sorry this post turned into a debate. My sincere apologies. I was only trying to state the huge problems he had to deal with. I studied the Civil War. While not an expert I do understand what President Lincoln did to save our union. I tried to stay away from the issue of north and south, as I pointed out the Americans lost during that awful war. God Bless President Lincoln may his legacy live on!

Bob

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Feb 13, 2019 14:21:55   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Mark, my take on Jimi: Jimi did some very interesting stuff, but bad contracts, to much drug mixing, and people always spiking the punch (so to speak), horrible scheduling, trolls and vampires, really took a toll on him. In another reality he might have made an even greater impact. I've heard some acoustic stuff (mostly his more inventive and poetic songs done without all effects, or other band members), very different from the stage stuff. But I'm from a bit later in the time line (Born in 1951), and I played a lot of his stuff in bands I played in during the 60's thru 90's time frame.

I didn't care for a lot of the live/stage stuff that is so often shown, but the studio stuff, and his engineer and master mixer made a couple of great albums: Axis - Bold as Love and esp. Electric Ladyland are superb, Band of Gypsy's was really good, even if he did have to do it as a freebie (court ordered and recorded live). Are you experienced was a rough introduction, not well recorded, and anything after Band of Gypsy's was folks trying to make a fast buck, as he was already gone, or it was stuff "in the can" in the studio.....

Your list of guiar heroes is a fine one too. Some fine players there. Jazz is another cool genre, and very experimental in its own right...

Another sensational guitarist that most people simply didn't understand, and dismissed, Frank Zappa, a whole lot of WOW there. I could probably go one all day, but will give everyone a break, Later man!! Stay cool.....

markngolf wrote:
I did not. While I appreciated the genius of Jimi Hendrix, I was not a fan of his. My guitar heroes were Christian, Pass, Smith, Hall, Ellis, Kessel and a few others. For me, it was more about the music period and genre.
Thanks for the reference and note!
Mark

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Feb 13, 2019 14:44:54   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Yes, the Green New Deal will take us back to the lovely 19th century.



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Feb 13, 2019 14:47:19   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
blue-ultra wrote:
Mark, I am sorry this post turned into a debate. My sincere apologies. I was only trying to state the huge problems he had to deal with. I studied the Civil War. While not an expert I do understand what President Lincoln did to save our union. I tried to stay away from the issue of north and south, as I pointed out the Americans lost during that awful war. God Bless President Lincoln may his legacy live on!

Bob


Most excellent.
It was a very dark period of our history in loss of life and shattered lives and ways of life.
Lincoln had very hard decisions to make both as commander in chief and as a politician.

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Feb 13, 2019 14:52:04   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It's hard for a business to fail if it has free labor.


Slaves were not free labor. They were expensive to buy and maintain. Most slave owners treated their slaves as valuable assets.

It is impossible to understand that world from our point of view today. Consider that two of our first three presidents ( Washington and Jefferson) owned more than a hundred slaves each.

One has to wonder if someone else might have brought about the abolition of slavery, as happened in many other countries, without having over 600,000 citizens die, millions with lifetime wounds, and enormous US property destruction.

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Feb 13, 2019 14:57:44   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
IDguy wrote:
Slaves were not free labor. They were expensive to buy and maintain. Most slave owners treated their slaves as valuable assets.

It is impossible to understand that world from our point of view today. Consider that two of our first three presidents ( Washington and Jefferson) owned more than a hundred slaves each.

One has to wonder if someone else might have brought about the abolition of slavery, as happened in many other countries, without having over 600,000 citizens die, millions with lifetime wounds, and enormous US property destruction.
Slaves were not free labor. They were expensive to... (show quote)


Jefferson wrote extensively in letters on slavery.
Uneducated need to read these letters before they comment.
Washington and Jefferson and others struggled with the issue of slavery and again read the debates and writings of this matter at the founding of this nation.

Your comment is spot on here.

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Feb 13, 2019 14:58:41   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
mas24 wrote:
South Carolina was the first State to secede from the Union, the next month after Lincoln was elected in November 1860. Four months later, it began at the Battle of Fort Sumter, South Carolina. Union soldiers surrendered. And that's how the Civil War began. Lincoln was only President for one month when that happened. What an awakening for him, that must have been. And a war that lasted for 4 years. Fort Sumter is a National Park today, with tourists from everywhere. I'd like to visit that place.
South Carolina was the first State to secede from ... (show quote)


Visited it last spring (for a second time in 40 years). Don’t get your expectations up. The actual fort was obliterated by the bombardment. The rebuilt part makes a nice museum and the boat ride is OK, but there are much nicer places around Charleston.

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