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EM-1X - is this the Bee's Knees of ALL MFTs, or - did Olympus blow it?
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Feb 13, 2019 00:13:39   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Chris T wrote:
WD - it's okay. I enjoy sparring with you. But, it should be noted - even though this topic title - as do most of mine - has a provocative title - all I really know about the EM1x is based on three different reviews I've read - none of which have made me want to plonk down UP TO FIVE GRAND - for the body with lens. Yes, it has some significant advances over the EM1 II - but, it seems there are some significant flaws, too. I did not set out to compare it to the 1Dx II, or the D5, or the a99 II, or the K-1 II. I just wanted to throw the idea out there, and see what cropped up …. Bee's Knees of the MFTs - don't you think it has a nice ring to it????

But others here - seemed to want to compare it to those other FF Top-o'-the Heap DSLRs … the only problem is … it's NOT FF, first of all … and secondly - it's not even a DSLR!!! … It's a MILC! … so, if one should want to compare it to something else out there - ideally - it should be compared - first of all - to the EM1 II … then to whatever Panasonic MFT with which it has the closest alignment. AND then - if you STILL insist on a comparison to an APS-C camera - the first ones one should look at are the Fuji line. But, I don't think it's a fair comparison to make - with ANY Full Fame DSLR - perhaps a FF MILC, whaddyathink
WD - it's okay. I enjoy sparring with you. But, it... (show quote)


It is the haters and naysayers, non m4/3 users who are “””comparing””” this camera.

Olympus simply released a “””PRO””” body for professional photographers with their latest tech.

Gearheads bitch about it like they bitch about every other camera.

Photographers, PRO or NOT, who will need this camera will purchase it and use it to take beautiful photos, just like other photographers do with every other camera available.

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Feb 13, 2019 00:15:12   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tdekany wrote:
The price IS $2995. You can pre order one at that price.


WOW … WOW … and WOW, Tom … thanks for making those specs so clear … the price, too …

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Feb 13, 2019 00:18:23   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Chris T wrote:
WD - it's okay. I enjoy sparring with you. But, it should be noted - even though this topic title - as do most of mine - has a provocative title - all I really know about the EM1x is based on three different reviews I've read - none of which have made me want to plonk down UP TO FIVE GRAND - for the body with lens. Yes, it has some significant advances over the EM1 II - but, it seems there are some significant flaws, too. I did not set out to compare it to the 1Dx II, or the D5, or the a99 II, or the K-1 II. I just wanted to throw the idea out there, and see what cropped up …. Bee's Knees of the MFTs - don't you think it has a nice ring to it????

But others here - seemed to want to compare it to those other FF Top-o'-the Heap DSLRs … the only problem is … it's NOT FF, first of all … and secondly - it's not even a DSLR!!! … It's a MILC! … so, if one should want to compare it to something else out there - ideally - it should be compared - first of all - to the EM1 II … then to whatever Panasonic MFT with which it has the closest alignment. AND then - if you STILL insist on a comparison to an APS-C camera - the first ones one should look at are the Fuji line. But, I don't think it's a fair comparison to make - with ANY Full Fame DSLR - perhaps a FF MILC, whaddyathink
WD - it's okay. I enjoy sparring with you. But, it... (show quote)


Btw, do you know, that the hi res mode in the EM1 mark2 has better dynamic range that any FF camera? Only Medium Format beats it.

So if you are a landscape, architecture or product photographer, you can use a small system and get superior results.

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Feb 13, 2019 00:19:28   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Chris T wrote:
WOW … WOW … and WOW, Tom … thanks for making those specs so clear … the price, too …


My pleasure my friend.

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Feb 13, 2019 00:21:11   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tdekany wrote:
It is the haters and naysayers, non m4/3 users who are “””comparing””” this camera.

Olympus simply released a “””PRO””” body for professional photographers with their latest tech.

Gearheads bitch about it like they bitch about every other camera.

Photographers, PRO or NOT, who will need this camera will purchase it and use it to take beautiful photos, just like other photographers do with every other camera available.


Actually - NO, Tom .. the most concise negative responses, so far - have been from MFT owners …

Go back and read the thread from the beginning - very enlightening ….

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Feb 13, 2019 00:24:34   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tdekany wrote:
Btw, do you know, that the hi res mode in the EM1 mark2 has better dynamic range that any FF camera? Only Medium Format beats it.

So if you are a landscape, architecture or product photographer, you can use a small system and get superior results.


Perhaps, greater dynamic range, Tom ... but that goes hand-in-hand with low-light handling, and, on that score - traditionally - the Olympus cameras - don't do quite so well ....

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Feb 13, 2019 00:25:48   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tdekany wrote:
My pleasure my friend.


Not sure how you did that. but you did it, well, Tom …

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Feb 13, 2019 00:58:25   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
Actually - NO, Tom .. the most concise negative responses, so far - have been from MFT owners …

Go back and read the thread from the beginning - very enlightening ….


Who have never used this camera.
Personally I would consider one if the need be, and they were not so expensive.

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Feb 13, 2019 01:19:55   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Who have never used this camera.
Personally I would consider one if the need be, and they were not so expensive.


Richard … you can do it … just think of it as buying THREE EM5 IIs - instead of TWO!!!!!

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Feb 13, 2019 01:21:42   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
Richard … you can do it … just think of it as buying THREE EM5 IIs - instead of TWO!!!!!


Down here they are the price of 3 EM5 IIs with just a little change left over.


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Feb 13, 2019 01:35:59   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Down here they are the price of 3 EM5 IIs with just a little change left over.



EXACTLY, Richard … 3x a grand = $3000 … read my comment, again … I'm sure it'll make sense to you now!

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Feb 13, 2019 02:23:46   #
Besperus Loc: Oregon
 
An LX was a very good camera, versatile and making an automatic exposure at 2 minutes was quite nice as it was able to use any lense Pentax ever made as I recall. In used two MX bodies for miniature format work, manual controls.
Then came the OM4t...almost as good as
the LX. That was then.
Ever drop a EOS 1DX in two feet of water? I live in the Northwest where it rains. This new Olympus appeals to me. So do the larger format Fuji cameras, can’t afford Hasselblad, maybe used? Anyway, I stick with my first thought. Or,
what I was aiming at...use what you know, rent whatever you need for all those other times. I’m no longer earning a living in this media circus good luck in
your pursuits in image making.

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Feb 13, 2019 02:28:38   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Besperus wrote:
I’d buy one. I don’t shoot sports most of the time. But limiting my imagination has not been my priority either. I’ve used Canons and Mamiya and Hasselblsd all for different reasons (needs). This Olympus won’t do it all but it is s tool that comes close. If I want to shoot video I’ll get a video camera capable of performing the task. If I want fine detail for a special shot I’ll rent a Fuji or Hasselblad with appropriate lens.


As good as the new Olympus E-M1X will be, when it comes to video, you really might want to look at the new Panasonic GH5s. Panasonic tends to be much better at video than Olympus. I know the new Olympus E-M1X is capable of very good video production, but the Panasonic GH5s can probably beat it. You might want to contact UHH member Burkphoto and talk to him about 4/3rds video.

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Feb 13, 2019 02:51:51   #
Besperus Loc: Oregon
 
Chris T wrote:
Actually - NO, Tom .. the most concise negative responses, so far - have been from MFT owners …

Go back and read the thread from the beginning - very enlightening ….


No, not really, doesn’t matter. Does it? I use what I know works for a task. 4/3’s, aps-c, full frame, medium format. But 4/3’s does a lot of things the others do for better or worse. Having the skill to minimize the weakness, that’s where the photographer comes into play. It’s a test and it’s fun to push the limits and test your skill and your vision to create something special. Format means very little.

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Feb 13, 2019 03:03:44   #
Besperus Loc: Oregon
 
I still would rather go rent a Canon c300 to shoot video if it’s supposed to be worth doing.

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