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Feb 10, 2019 16:17:29   #
khorinek
 
The Canon 70-300 f/4-5.6 USM IS Mark I is a very good lens. I've had one for several years. I]ve taken some very good photos with it. I have since switched to the 70-200 f/4 UM IS L lens. I still have the 70-300 lens and keep it for a backup to my 70-200.

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Feb 10, 2019 16:19:40   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
khorinek wrote:
The Canon 70-300 f/4-5.6 USM IS Mark I is a very good lens. I've had one for several years. I]ve taken some very good photos with it. I have since switched to the 70-200 f/4 UM IS L lens. I still have the 70-300 lens and keep it for a backup to my 70-200.



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Feb 10, 2019 16:50:26   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
boberic wrote:
Is IS obviated by fast 1/400 shutter speed, and therefore might as well be off? And/or at what speeds is sabilization unnecessary?


No. Those who claim so are thinking wrong. IS etc. has nothing to do with shutter speed. It corrects for camera movement.

It also stabilizes the image in your viewfinder. Again, no connection to shutter speed.

Most new VR systems also automatically notice if they are on a tripod and correct the algorithm for it...no need to turn VR off. Some of the new Nikon AF-P lenses do not have a switch to turn VR off. Alas, my new Z6 camera suggests turning its system off when on a tripod...even though some of my lenses say not.

None of my camera or lens manuals suggest turning off VR at higher shutter speeds. Why might that be?

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Feb 10, 2019 17:22:44   #
User ID
 
boberic wrote:

Is IS obviated by fast 1/400 shutter speed, and
therefore might as well be off? And/or at what
speeds is sabilization unnecessary?


FL matters very much in answering your query.

At 1/400 turn it off for an 8mm lens and turn it
on for a 2000mm lens. Somewhere in between
you're gonna hafta wing it.

.

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Feb 10, 2019 18:47:27   #
mrpentaxk5ii
 
1/400 might seem like a fast shutter speed, but on a hand held long lens..not so much.

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Feb 10, 2019 21:12:42   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
boberic wrote:
Is IS obviated by fast 1/400 shutter speed, and therefore might as well be off? And/or at what speeds is sabilization unnecessary?

Yes, once you get in that range, you should turn it to off, at those speeds you're most likely shot some sort of action, then it should be turned off anyway, also when using any kind of other statbilization, such as a tripod or a monopod it should be turned to off!

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Feb 10, 2019 23:13:39   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
olemikey wrote:
My take via example - I recently picked up a Nikon AF-P 70-300 VR F4.5-6.3 to try out since I heard good things about the AF-P series. It was going to be compared to my Nik 70-300 AF lens (sharp lens, no VR). Used the AF-P lens for a day (in bright Florida sun) and found that while the VR worked, in bright conditions the older AF lens is sharper, and the AF is fast enough for most work. I was going to send the AF-P back, even had an RMA for it.

Next day was cloudy and just generally a dull grey yucky day. Thought, well maybe I should give it a go in low light before I send it back. Glad I did, while not as tack sharp as the older AF lens, it could quickly focus and stabilize at very slow to fairly high shutter speeds, and produce a good crisp image, even one handed off balance shots came out well, something that probably would not happen with the non-VR lens. I shot till near dusk, and got shots the older Nikon lens would have severely struggled to get. So now I have 2 70-300 lens. The old AF lens is sharper, but has low light limitations for AF. It is fine for manual focus, but I'm not always doing manual focus.

I do agree that at faster shutter speeds it becomes less and less important, till you reach a point/speed where there is no gain.

If I were to do anything different, it would be to go for the (higher $$$) Nik AF-P VR F4.5-5.6. But I can't complain, the F4.5-6.3 was only $120 delivered from MPB and while called used, looks brand new, box, paperwork and all.

My lenses are split about evenly between non-stabilized and stabilized for my Nikon bodies, My Sony bodies all have IBIS, so those lenses are non-stabilized A-mounts. Is VR/IS/OS/IBIS etc. worthwhile, yes, there are circumstances where it is very helpful. Do you need it if you mainly shoot tripod (or other stabilizing methods), or manual focus, maybe not. But if you are on the move, have steadiness issues, shooting in low light w/o assist, shooting off-balance one handed, etc. It is worth having. My humble opinion, YMMV.
My take via example - I recently picked up a Niko... (show quote)


I also have 2 70-300 lenses, the old AF 70-300 f4-5.6 FX and the AFP f4.5-6.3 DX. Both are non VR. I have considered trading them for one 70-300 with VR but both are very sharp used outside at higher shutter speeds which is how I use them. Can’t bring myself to spend the extra cash and part with them since I have no complaints. When I start complaining it will be time to switch not as long as I am happy I am good.

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Feb 11, 2019 01:08:05   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
boberic wrote:
Is IS obviated by fast 1/400 shutter speed, and therefore might as well be off? And/or at what speeds is sabilization unnecessary?


It depends on lens focal length, shooting situation and tripod/no tripod (remote release?). For handheld generally FF 1/fl is recommended shutter minimum. For APSC 1/1.5xfl.
So if you have a 500mm lens or a zoom at 500mm, 1/500+ for FF, 1/800+ for crop, with IS/VR/OS/VC off.
Sometimes IS/VR/OS/VC introduces more blur than it tries to prevent. This spring I will experiment with VC off and 1/1600-2000+ on my Tammy 150-600mm G2 for panning BIF shots.

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