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Jan 31, 2019 15:25:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
sirlensalot wrote:
Sometimes the smaller size can be a disadvantage. DSLR's just feel better in the hands. I use both, but I think it comes down to using the right tool for the job.


Feel a Lumix G9 or GH5...

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Jan 31, 2019 15:48:30   #
pego101
 
letmedance wrote:
I recently handeled both Nikon and Canon newest mirrorlessa cameras. Not very much difference in size and weight from their DSLR siblings.

Also checked out the P1000, this think is an armfull, it is bigger than a breadbox.


Dont know about your "handling" but my nikon z6 is substantially smaller than my d750 and better.

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Jan 31, 2019 15:54:48   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Yes, there are many advantages for mirrorless cameras, everybody knows what they are but are those advantages enough to make me abandon my DSLR equipment and go mirrorless and do I think the mirrorless system is God's gift to photography like many people think?...not by a long shot. To me the bottom line is photo quality, there's no advantage for one system over the other as far as photo quality. I still like look and feel of a DSLR.

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Jan 31, 2019 15:59:53   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The myth that mirrorless cameras will make you a better photographer is even more seductive than the myth that mirrorless cameras are better technology. Removing the mirror over essentially the same sensor has to provide that special something-something that the next incremental model in the DSLR product series never seemed to provide ...

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Jan 31, 2019 16:01:19   #
ecurb1105
 
cboysen wrote:
I probably missed the initial discussions as to why the interest in mirrorless cameras, but I've been wondering: are they in some ways better than DSLRs? If so, how? Are they lighter? Cheaper? Do they use better lenses? I'd appreciate answers. Thanks.


I freelance for a local production house as cameraman, we shoot both stills and video with DSLRs as well as straight video cameras. I am very interested in the EVF on mirrorless cameras for video shoots. Also for the sheer enjoyment of the technology. 😎

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Jan 31, 2019 16:19:31   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
ecurb1105 wrote:
I freelance for a local production house as cameraman, we shoot both stills and video with DSLRs as well as straight video cameras. I am very interested in the EVF on mirrorless cameras for video shoots. Also for the sheer enjoyment of the technology. 😎


Look at a gh5 then.

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Jan 31, 2019 16:19:41   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Legitimate question. I do not have the expertise to answer. Sorry.


Bill_de wrote:
As far as less moving parts, don't most mirrorless cameras move the sensor to accomplish image stabilization? Probably a very slight distance but with speed and agility necessary to accomplish the task.

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Jan 31, 2019 16:22:58   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
pego101 wrote:
Dont know about your "handling" but my nikon z6 is substantially smaller than my d750 and better.


D850 w/24-70 F/2.8 & Z6 w/24-70 F/4.0 (fully extended)



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Jan 31, 2019 16:27:03   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
When we speak of mirror cameras do we not really mean pivotable optical prisms. To that I would ask: how far back in years was the introduction of the first movable prism camera introduced. Remember those split-field range finder cameras, where the view finder had its own lens.

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Jan 31, 2019 16:30:30   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
ecurb1105 wrote:
I freelance for a local production house as cameraman, we shoot both stills and video with DSLRs as well as straight video cameras. I am very interested in the EVF on mirrorless cameras for video shoots. Also for the sheer enjoyment of the technology. 😎


One more vote for the Panasonic Lumix GH5 (and GH5s).

I gave up Canons and Nikons and bought a GH4 several years ago. It has lightened my load, improved my audio and video, and sped up production. If I were buying today, it would be a GH5/GH5s (hard decision there... you really need one or two of each!).

These cameras have excellent EVFs, OLED flip-out touchscreens, superb audio, LOTS of video format options, time code, zebras, focus peaking, and most of the video features you need for professional results on a budget. You can find better still cameras, but if you need a hybrid blend of stills and video, this is the first camera to look at. Sony gear is next.

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Jan 31, 2019 16:39:53   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Bill_de wrote:
D850 w/24-70 F/2.8 & Z6 w/24-70 F/4.0 (fully extended)


This is an impressive comparison...BUT...I would question whether an f4 lens is the same as an f2.8 lens.

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Jan 31, 2019 16:43:21   #
pego101
 
larryepage wrote:
This is an impressive comparison...BUT...an f4 lens is not the same as an f2.8 lens.

Forget the lens look at the camera differences substantial and the z has in body image stabilization as well.

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Jan 31, 2019 16:48:10   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
The only Panasonic I own is a point and shoot LX-10. Based on the results from this camera and the easy to use menu system, if I was ever going full mirrorless this is a brand I would seriously look at.

I bought it originally to 'play with' in camera focus stacking. It was real easy with good results. The camera stays in the console of my Jeep and has earned (not monetarily) its keep more than once.

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Jan 31, 2019 16:50:06   #
AtlantaTerry Loc: Atlanta, Georgia USA
 
I often work on the sets of film and TV productions creating still photographs that will be later used to market and promote the various projects.

What appeals to me about a mirrorless camera is that they don't make any mirror flap noise. Therfore I don't need to surround every camera body with an insulated metal box and every lens with an insulated tube. This reduces the weight I have to carry for each camera by about 10 pounds! At the end of a working day, this is quite important.

The very first digital camera that I owned was, indeed, a mirrorless camera: the Minolta DiMage A2. It was so advanced in technology that Sony bought Minolta's camera division just to own the rights. After my DiMage A2 died, Sony wanted way WAY too much to repair it so I bought my first Nikon digital since I had a bunch of Nikon glass already for my Nikon film cameras.

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Jan 31, 2019 16:56:44   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bill_de wrote:
The only Panasonic I own is a point and shoot LX-10. Based on the results from this camera and the easy to use menu system, if I was ever going full mirrorless this is a brand I would seriously look at.

I bought it originally to 'play with' in camera focus stacking. It was real easy with good results. The camera stays in the console of my Jeep and has earned (not monetarily) its keep more than once.

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I can't wait to see what they do with their two full frame cameras, due out in late March. They've partnered with Leica and Sigma to use the L mount system. It looks like they're going for the high end, right from the start.

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