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Jan 27, 2019 09:18:05   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Angmo wrote:
A fresh example just might be Venezuela. Toilet paper shortages.


That is neither a definition nor an example of socialism. You really did not go to school anywhere did you?

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Jan 27, 2019 09:24:42   #
Angmo
 
dpullum wrote:
Angmo you are old, take off that old brown shoe 1960's uniform and post a today photo! You are an individual... now if you are a great hero, let us know... but you lean on that uniform to prop up your arguments.

What 40 countries?

AOC is suggesting that those over ten million dollars pay 70% tax for all above ten. Ike, a Republican, made tax 90% for a few people.
https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-rich-1950-not-high/

Do you find universal health care [like for vets] universal education [like the GI Bill] the Interstate Highways [Eisenhower browed $ to build].... do you find these things wrong. The socialist democratic system has been around for many decades... we all chip in to share for the common good.
Angmo you are old, take off that old brown shoe 19... (show quote)


Look it up. I have. Not that hard. GI Bill is what? Socialism? I think not. Benefits in arrears from another job - yep. I picked up a bachelors and masters degrees. You need to study up on what socialism is and ain’t. None of your samples are socialism.

Take a peek at Venezuela. Maybe book a flight there and stay for a month. See the benefits of socialism. The happy well fed folks. Content with their lives. Afterall that’s the l*****t dem dream. Control of the masses. Forced happiness. The theft of freedom, liberty, choice, happiness all for the very few in power. They eat well.

Yep I served alright. Marines too. Nope not my pic, that’s Chesty. If you don’t know Chesty, well, you don’t know a lot. The Man is highly revered.

Avatars can be of anything not just a boring selfie. Some have pics of birds yah know. I keep that one as lefties here are mysteriously and seriously threatened by the greatness he represents. Alpha male.

Most lefties here seem to be beta, except a surprising number of gammas. They seem to be defensive of the betas. Really odd.

Stealing from the rich? Hating the rich? Rich vs poor h**x? C*******m. Identity politics? Rascism? National socialism like N**i Germany. Those h**eful elements be the l*****t, quite f*****t Dem party roots.

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Jan 27, 2019 09:24:46   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Bazbo wrote:
That is neither a definition nor an example of socialism. You really did not go to school anywhere did you?


So your dishonesty knows no bounds.

Back on the uneducable list for you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Socialist_Party_of_Venezuela

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Jan 27, 2019 09:25:11   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Angmo wrote:
Simple. The wrong people were in charge.

40 countries tried and failed. Obakapig tried and failed too. Wake up lefties, all socialism fails. All lies fail. The light shines its t***h on socialism and the leftie cockroaches scatter

It is not designed to succeed. Just ruin lives by making everyone equally miserable. Except a few at the top of the s**t pile of lies.

https://news.yahoo.com/tensions-rising-venezuela-ahead-rival-protests-051825945.html



Don’t be so harsh........if the goal is to directly cause death of humans and the destruction of entire economies than it’s quite successful!

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Jan 27, 2019 09:25:15   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
LWW wrote:
Damn son, have you ever seen those things where people scan through one sheet of paper after another.

They’re called books.

Read at least one that is less than half pictures.

And it isn’t “my” definition ... these words have hard definitions. Learn them before you use them and with the BAZBOTHINK.

Since I know there is little chance you will take my advice, I will again do the work for my lazy l*****t friends:

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and workers' self-management of the means of production[10] as well as the political theories and movements associated with them.

Anything else I can help you with.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Damn son, have you ever seen those things where pe... (show quote)


So the Interstate highway system is not socialism?

The government (collective ownership) controlled the means of production through funding and building to specs and the product is intended for only one customer (the commonweal of the Untied States). Please explain how this is not socialism?

Damn son, have you ever seen those things where people scan through one sheet of paper after another.

They’re called books.

Read at least one that is less than half pictures.

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Jan 27, 2019 09:30:31   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
dpullum wrote:
Angmo you are old, take off that old brown shoe 1960's uniform and post a today photo! You are an individual... now if you are a great hero, let us know... but you lean on that uniform to prop up your arguments.

What 40 countries?

AOC is suggesting that those over ten million dollars pay 70% tax for all above ten. Ike, a Republican, made tax 90% for a few people.
https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-rich-1950-not-high/

Do you find universal health care [like for vets] universal education [like the GI Bill] the Interstate Highways [Eisenhower browed $ to build].... do you find these things wrong. The socialist democratic system has been around for many decades... we all chip in to share for the common good.
Angmo you are old, take off that old brown shoe 19... (show quote)



Learn the definition of “universal”, and than try and make your argument! The programs for vets was not socialism, it was a way of saying thanks for their efforts in protecting us AND for giving up some key years of their life to do so!

The highway system was an ECONOMIC decision, by the way.

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Jan 27, 2019 09:31:58   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
sb wrote:
Democratic socialism is alive and well in many countries. For it to work here - with universal health care and education - we would have to actually think about our priorities. The nations that successfully offer universal health care and education do not let their rich continue to rape their society and they also do not spent more than half of their disposable income on past, present, and future wars like we do. In our country we have the richest man on the planet paying minimum wage to employees who rely on Medicaid. ( Source: http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/05/07/26148929/amazon-among-top-washington-companies-for-employee-dependence-on-medicaid )
Democratic socialism is alive and well in many cou... (show quote)


Seriously....name them. Democratic socialism is a bull crap term meant to diffuse the crap of socialism.

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Jan 27, 2019 09:36:08   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
dpullum wrote:
Angmo you are old, take off that old brown shoe 1960's uniform and post a today photo! You are an individual... now if you are a great hero, let us know... but you lean on that uniform to prop up your arguments.

What 40 countries?

AOC is suggesting that those over ten million dollars pay 70% tax for all above ten. Ike, a Republican, made tax 90% for a few people.
https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-rich-1950-not-high/

Do you find universal health care [like for vets] universal education [like the GI Bill] the Interstate Highways [Eisenhower browed $ to build].... do you find these things wrong. The socialist democratic system has been around for many decades... we all chip in to share for the common good.
Angmo you are old, take off that old brown shoe 19... (show quote)


OK Do you REALLY know why IKE built the Interstate hgy. He built if to be able to move Military equopment more easily up and down the East coast. That's the ONLY reason the interstate hgway was buillt

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Jan 27, 2019 11:09:59   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Bazbo wrote:
So the Interstate highway system is not socialism?

The government (collective ownership) controlled the means of production through funding and building to specs and the product is intended for only one customer (the commonweal of the Untied States). Please explain how this is not socialism?


The system was built by the individual states and is also owned and maintained by them.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/faq.cfm#question5

Again, read a book ... less than half pictures.

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Jan 27, 2019 12:32:15   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
LWW wrote:
The system was built by the individual states and is also owned and maintained by them.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/faq.cfm#question5

Again, read a book ... less than half pictures.


you are not a very good reader are you? I did not specify which level of government owned the means of production, did I? Were the words of my post too big for you? You have neither rebutted my argument nor answered my question.

It is pretty rich for you to challenge my literacy when you can't seem to follow simple English sentences. Should I diagram the sentences for you? Or are you deliberately misstating my argument which, if true, makes you the liar here. Which is it?

Again, read a book ... less than half pictures.

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Jan 27, 2019 12:38:33   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
boberic wrote:
OK Do you REALLY know why IKE built the Interstate hgy. He built if to be able to move Military equopment more easily up and down the East coast. That's the ONLY reason the interstate hgway was buillt


The original reason for the building of the Interstate system does not change its nature from being socialist. It was not a capitalistic enterprise, It was funded and managed collectively, there was no private investment at risk, etc.

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Jan 27, 2019 12:51:32   #
Angmo
 
Ah. Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol.

Hoping this c****e wrinkle butt catheter creature will run again!!

A catheter c****e??? Lol

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/23/hillary-clinton-so-far-ahead-in-polls-that-doesnt-even-think-abo/

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Jan 27, 2019 13:07:39   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
Gee, what happened? when the rich paid high taxes, everyone prospered. when the rich pay low taxes, only they prosper.

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Jan 27, 2019 13:08:33   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Bazbo wrote:
you are not a very good reader are you? I did not specify which level of government owned the means of production, did I? Were the words of my post too big for you? You have neither rebutted my argument nor answered my question.

It is pretty rich for you to challenge my literacy when you can't seem to follow simple English sentences. Should I diagram the sentences for you? Or are you deliberately misstating my argument which, if true, makes you the liar here. Which is it?

Again, read a book ... less than half pictures.
you are not a very good reader are you? I did not ... (show quote)


Well, you doubled down as silly.

The highway system is one of the few things done by the feds that is constitutional.

It was built by private industry who bid on contracts. The governments had no price controls.

You are confusing government with f*****m.

The AUTOBAHN was built by socialists who paid what they wanted, built where they wanted, and put essentially s***e to work where they wanted them to work.

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Jan 27, 2019 13:09:50   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Bazbo wrote:
... there was no private investment at risk, etc.


OK ... tripled down on silly.

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