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Jan 25, 2019 18:52:58   #
philo Loc: philo, ca
 
there are many books and utube explaining exposure and how to set them. This is a very important first step in how your camera operates. I have mark 3 and 4 and it will work with you.

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Jan 25, 2019 19:06:31   #
Michael1079 Loc: Indiana
 
I've only had my 5D Mark IV for two months, so please take these comments with that in mind. Mostly what I shoot are Gymnastics, Basketball, and Soccer - my granddaughter (hard to keep up with her.) So, while soccer season has yet to start, I have tried it out in elementary school gymnasium (Basketball), and in the convention center in Indianapolis (Gymnastics). I've shot up around 4000 ISO and feel pleased with the results.

I read a post somewhere that claimed above 4000 the grain in the 5D Mk IV starts ramping up considerably - I've personally used it at 5000 at both the events above, and the results are just beautiful. Man, I love it!

Sorry; I know this is not much help!

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Jan 25, 2019 20:58:56   #
Karl's Bird Photography Loc: Oregon
 
A lot of bird photography is done in low light. I use the widest opening possible to keep DOF shallow and ISO lower, and in your case I would have used 5.6 instead of 7.1. However, with the lens you have, I would likely have used 400mm, f/8, about 1/500 (maybe slower if the bird wasn't moving) and a 1.4 TC. I have the 5D4 and it's a huge improvement in low light over the 7D2 I started with.

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Jan 25, 2019 22:39:34   #
User ID
 
Bokehen wrote:
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Also, IMO multiple zoom range lenses aren't suited
for these types of shots as the camera tends to zoom
in and out way too often and if one is holding the
camera, it's twice as hard to get these multi zoom
range lenses to cooperate. ..........



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Jan 26, 2019 02:50:46   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
?????🤦‍♂️

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Jan 26, 2019 07:21:41   #
Linda S.
 
fergmark wrote:
Your shutter speed was set at this remarkably fast setting. That might stop a speeding bullet. The ISO is by necessity going to be high, in order to compensate. Your aperture is also much smaller than necessary, further exacerbating the problem.


Thank you!

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Jan 26, 2019 07:22:47   #
Linda S.
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I'm not sure that is an apt comparison, but the problem with using a speed that fast is that it is faster than is necessary for most applications, and it forces you to use an ISO that is higher than necessary, which increases noise.


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Jan 26, 2019 09:21:23   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
ialvarez50 wrote:
I have the Canon 5D Mark III and I never ever had the need to use anything higher than 400 ISO. The problem that I see here is that nowadays people want the camera to give them perfect images regardless of what they do without knowing anything about photography. People have to learn photography first before they start using any camera, of course, this is not going to happen, people will continue to look for the perfect camera that takes the perfect pictures without learning ANYTHING about photography. Good luck with that.
I have the Canon 5D Mark III and I never ever had ... (show quote)


I'm trying to learn, that is why I'm asking questions!

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Jan 26, 2019 09:22:31   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
Karl's Bird Photography wrote:
A lot of bird photography is done in low light. I use the widest opening possible to keep DOF shallow and ISO lower, and in your case I would have used 5.6 instead of 7.1. However, with the lens you have, I would likely have used 400mm, f/8, about 1/500 (maybe slower if the bird wasn't moving) and a 1.4 TC. I have the 5D4 and it's a huge improvement in low light over the 7D2 I started with.


Thanks!

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Jan 26, 2019 09:23:14   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
Michael1079 wrote:
I've only had my 5D Mark IV for two months, so please take these comments with that in mind. Mostly what I shoot are Gymnastics, Basketball, and Soccer - my granddaughter (hard to keep up with her.) So, while soccer season has yet to start, I have tried it out in elementary school gymnasium (Basketball), and in the convention center in Indianapolis (Gymnastics). I've shot up around 4000 ISO and feel pleased with the results.

I read a post somewhere that claimed above 4000 the grain in the 5D Mk IV starts ramping up considerably - I've personally used it at 5000 at both the events above, and the results are just beautiful. Man, I love it!

Sorry; I know this is not much help!
I've only had my 5D Mark IV for two months, so ple... (show quote)


Thank you!

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Jan 26, 2019 09:30:54   #
philo Loc: philo, ca
 
I think the problems that you are hearing is that ............you own one of the top of line bodies ever made. we would assume that anyone that owns this piece of equipment is not a beginner and is aware of basic operations etc.
I see that you want to learn so I would suggest trying to find a local photo group, checking programs such as "Kelbyone", look into programs about your camera on Utube, see if your local college is offering any classes pertaining to photography.
Enjoy the journey you will love the trip.

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Feb 12, 2019 12:46:22   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
What is the point of in camera noise reduction when a much lower ISO and shutter speed is all that is needed.
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Does your 5D4 body have high ISO noise reduction in the menus and was it turned on? You might also think about using the Canon DPP software for noise reduction in pp.

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Feb 12, 2019 12:48:47   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Your asking the correct questions now you have to adjust your thinking on the ISO and shutter speed. I'd stay away from auto ISO entirely.
Photolady2014 wrote:
I'm trying to learn, that is why I'm asking questions!

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Feb 12, 2019 12:53:16   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
DanielB wrote:
What is the point of in camera noise reduction when a much lower ISO and shutter speed is all that is needed.


Sometimes the light just doesn't allow lower ISO unless you are willing to under expose and hope to bring it up in PP. In my experience higher ISO to begin with works better than under exposure with low ISO.

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Feb 12, 2019 12:55:31   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
I think getting a camera beyond your abilities is a good way to force yourself to learn more about photography which is exactly what the poster is trying to do. The 5D IV is a remarkable piece of equipment and I have no doubt that she will improve as she practices.
ialvarez50 wrote:
I have the Canon 5D Mark III and I never ever had the need to use anything higher than 400 ISO. The problem that I see here is that nowadays people want the camera to give them perfect images regardless of what they do without knowing anything about photography. People have to learn photography first before they start using any camera, of course, this is not going to happen, people will continue to look for the perfect camera that takes the perfect pictures without learning ANYTHING about photography. Good luck with that.
I have the Canon 5D Mark III and I never ever had ... (show quote)

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