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Jan 17, 2019 10:53:22   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Rose42 wrote:
I doubt you know more than I've known. I worked with them for years. Most muslims don't know the koran or follow it closely. If they did we'd be in a lot more trouble. As for ISIS it doesn't matter for the koran says either non-believers must convert or they should be k**led. The source of islamic terrorism is the koran itself and there are numerous verses that support it.


You must realize there is lots of ugly violent stuff in the Judeo/Christian Holy Scriptures as well that is widely ignored in a modern society. Maybe Christians should be watched closely to make sure tey don't invade and corrupt our society.

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Jan 17, 2019 11:03:39   #
Rose42
 
Bazbo wrote:
You must realize there is lots of ugly violent stuff in the Judeo/Christian Holy Scriptures as well that is widely ignored in a modern society. Maybe Christians should be watched closely to make sure tey don't invade and corrupt our society.


Ah, but the bible is much, much different than the koran. Though now that you mention it the left nearly always excuses and explains away islam but not so Christianity. I'm not speaking of you personally for I don't know what you believe - its a generality.

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Jan 17, 2019 11:05:02   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Rose42 wrote:
Sharia law has been authorized in Ontario for civil arbitrations if both parties consent. That was passed in 1991. It's creeping it's way in.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/life-under-sharia-in-canada/article743980/

We have to stay vigilant.


Seems pretty similar to Orthodox Jewish mediations using the Torah as law. The Torah does not conform to our Constitution.

As long as both parties consent to the governing rules, and as long as the procedure violates no legal issues, does it matter?

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Jan 17, 2019 11:13:03   #
Rose42
 
mwalsh wrote:
Seems pretty similar to Orthodox Jewish mediations using the Torah as law. The Torah does not conform to our Constitution.

As long as both parties consent to the governing rules, and as long as the procedure violates no legal issues, does it matter?


If it were to stay that way there would be no problem but it won't stop there. It will inch forward as it has in Europe.

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Jan 17, 2019 16:57:17   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Rose42 wrote:
Ah, but the bible is much, much different than the koran. Though now that you mention it the left nearly always excuses and explains away islam but not so Christianity. I'm not speaking of you personally for I don't know what you believe - its a generality.


Perhaps you could explain why the evil in the Koran is different than the evil in the Christian scriptures.

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Jan 17, 2019 17:11:05   #
Rose42
 
Bazbo wrote:
Perhaps you could explain why the evil in the Koran is different than the evil in the Christian scriptures.


What evil are you speaking about in the bible? Christ never exhorts his followers to subjugate or k**l non-believers.

Saul of Tarsus was a murderer and torturer of Christians including women and children. Yet he repented.

Mohammed the prophet was a murderer, rapist, p*******e and thief but remained that way.

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Jan 17, 2019 17:18:11   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Rose42 wrote:
What evil are you speaking about in the bible? Christ never exhorts his followers to subjugate or k**l non-believers.

Saul of Tarsus was a murderer and torturer of Christians including women and children. Yet he repented.

Mohammed the prophet was a murderer, rapist, p*******e and thief but remained that way.


I know this is very serious to you, but the sky is not falling. You are starting to sound like LA Shooter. At least you show your sources.
The biggest difference between Islam and Christianity is probably 500 years. 500 years ago Christianity was a lot more dangerous.

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Jan 17, 2019 17:33:36   #
Rose42
 
thom w wrote:
I know this is very serious to you, but the sky is not falling. You are starting to sound like LA Shooter. At least you show your sources.
The biggest difference between Islam and Christianity is probably 500 years. 500 years ago Christianity was a lot more dangerous.


Christianity was never dangerous though the Catholic church was.

The sky isn't falling and I have no fear of islam because in the end it will fail. But there's no sense is not being aware of what's going on.

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Jan 17, 2019 17:33:43   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Rose42 wrote:
What evil are you speaking about in the bible? Christ never exhorts his followers to subjugate or k**l non-believers.

Saul of Tarsus was a murderer and torturer of Christians including women and children. Yet he repented.

Mohammed the prophet was a murderer, rapist, p*******e and thief but remained that way.


Here ya go-- a decent summary. Clink on any of the links on the right to go to the actual Scripture. Please note it is not confined to the Old Testament (which BTW, is still considered Holy Scripture in most of the Christian variations extant today).

http://www.evilbible.com

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Jan 17, 2019 18:01:15   #
Rose42
 
Bazbo wrote:
Here ya go-- a decent summary. Clink on any of the links on the right to go to the actual Scripture. Please note it is not confined to the Old Testament (which BTW, is still considered Holy Scripture in most of the Christian variations extant today).

http://www.evilbible.com


There are no variations in Christianity. One is Christian or one is not. Many denominations claiming to be are not. The Catholic church is not.

I've seen that site before. It was written by an atheist with no understanding of the bible, the history of the time, context, etc. Most are pretty fanciful on his part as he has no idea what he's talking about.

It's sad but he will find out just how wrong he is when he passes away.

All of it is easily refuted by a Christian apologist who knows history and context.

The koran is vastly different because it is a demonic religion. The bible is probably the most examined book in history and it stands up to scrutiny. The koran does not.

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Jan 17, 2019 18:15:03   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Rose42 wrote:
There are no variations in Christianity. One is Christian or one is not. Many denominations claiming to be are not. The Catholic church is not.

I've seen that site before. It was written by an atheist with no understanding of the bible, the history of the time, context, etc. Most are pretty fanciful on his part as he has no idea what he's talking about.

It's sad but he will find out just how wrong he is when he passes away.

All of it is easily refuted by a Christian apologist who knows history and context.

The koran is vastly different because it is a demonic religion. The bible is probably the most examined book in history and it stands up to scrutiny. The koran does not.
There are no variations in Christianity. One is C... (show quote)


You are speaking based on your religious belief. I don’t have any problem with you believing it, but you can’t expect everyone else to. You have no more authority to declare the Catholic church not Christian than a Catholic does to declare you not Christian. It may not be Christian according to your definition, but you don’t get to define Christianity for others.

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Jan 17, 2019 18:26:56   #
Rose42
 
thom w wrote:
You are speaking based on your religious belief. I don’t have any problem with you believing it, but you can’t expect everyone else to. You have no more authority to declare the Catholic church not Christian than a Catholic does to declare you not Christian. It may not be Christian according to your definition, but you don’t get to define Christianity for others.


I don't define it the bible defines it. In it are basic tenets for being a Christian and they're very clear.

The Catholic church has a long criminal history including many forged documents. They made changes to their doctrine after the Reformation to support some of their more nefarious practices. They place their traditions - many contrary to the bible - ahead of the bible in importance.

There are numerous sources which nobody is really interested in. lol

Though I wish everyone were a believer that is up to them. It can't be forced on anyone.

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